WWIII

inlet13

When do you think it will begin? How?

Jason P

I think it already started 11 years ago.

inlet13

Jason P wrote:

I think it already started 11 years ago.

Good call. I also think we're in a depression right now. But, we don't say it now - history will. I guess the question is - when will it become evident to everyone in the present?

Jason P

inlet13 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

I think it already started 11 years ago.

Good call. I also think we're in a depression right now. But, we don't say it now - history will. I guess the question is - when will it become evident to everyone in the present?

I don't think a "traditional" world war will occur again. The stakes are too high for the superpowers.

inlet13

Jason P wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

Jason P wrote:

I think it already started 11 years ago.

Good call. I also think we're in a depression right now. But, we don't say it now - history will. I guess the question is - when will it become evident to everyone in the present?

I don't think a "traditional" world war will occur again. The stakes are too high for the superpowers.

I get you, but I think it will if stakes for them decrease substantially, a scenario like a near-complete collapse of the dollar. Politicians get desperate. And if we're getting desperate here, the world at large will be too.

usamamasan1

inlet13

usamamasan1 wrote:

Exactly what's wrong with the US.

usamamasan1

Defending freedom is what's wrong with the US eh?

BinauralJam

usamamasan1 wrote:

:thumbup:

That was funny

Johnny Abruzzo

The main victors in WWII, i.e. the ones who beat Germany, were the USSR. Our contribution in that theatre was probably less than 25% of the war effort to topple Nazi Germany. Although we were the dominant force in defeating Japan. We did make large materiel contributions to the Russian war effort, which they were reluctant in acknowledging.

Our contributions to WWI were even smaller. Our entrance into WWI 3 years after it started was basically a psychological blow to Germany and persuaded their soldiers to mutiny more than the Allied soldiers. US soldiers had little tactical impact on The Great War.

I'm not trying to deface the contributions and the 400,000 or so Americans who were killed in those wars, but this was a small fraction of the costs suffered by other countries. Of course, I wouldn't want to tell that to a Marine who was on Iwo Jima.

Also, what we've had going on since 2001 totally pales in comparison to the hell that was WWI & WWII. I'd suggest reading up on it a little more.

Don't fuck with me on history.

inlet13

usamamasan1 wrote:

Defending freedom is what's wrong with the US eh?

No bragging about power. That's what's wrong.

usamamasan1

peace through strength.

BinauralJam

usamamasan1 wrote:

peace through strength.

Which is Great, it's the bragging that make people want to kill you.

Godfather.

noooo it's peace thru superior fire power
here in the "United States of Ammunition" when WWIII does start all the anti gun folks will be glad to get to know the gun toten redneck down the street with the paranoid supply closet filled with guns and ammo..

Godfather.

BinauralJam

Godfather. wrote:

noooo it's peace thru superior fire power
here in the "United States of Ammunition" when WWIII does start all the anti gun folks will be glad to get to know the gun toten redneck down the street with the paranoid supply closet filled with guns and ammo..

Godfather.

Well he is my favorite character from The Walking Dead

Cliffy6745

Godfather. wrote:

noooo it's peace thru superior fire power
here in the "United States of Ammunition" when WWIII does start all the anti gun folks will be glad to get to know the gun toten redneck down the street with the paranoid supply closet filled with guns and ammo..

Godfather.

Yeah, good point, especially since I have to worry about all those South Philly invasions. I am pretty certain if I die as a result of a World War, it will be in a massive explosion and not something a gun could have prevented.

inlet13

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

noooo it's peace thru superior fire power
here in the "United States of Ammunition" when WWIII does start all the anti gun folks will be glad to get to know the gun toten redneck down the street with the paranoid supply closet filled with guns and ammo..

Godfather.

Yeah, good point, especially since I have to worry about all those South Philly invasions. I am pretty certain if I die as a result of a World War, it will be in a massive explosion and not something a gun could have prevented.

Agreed. I don't own a gun, but I do think a gun could come in useful in an economic state like in Greece or worse, however. When the economy collapses, a gun would probably be a useful form of protection because fraud, abuse, theft, etc. would rapidly increase and the police force's power would rapidly diminish.

To me - if WWIII is confirmed, it will happen well after a confirmed depression just like the last two. So, I think the above would happen first.

Jason P

BinauralJam wrote:

Well he is my favorite character from The Walking Dead

I like how all these post apocalyptic TV shows and movies have guns and ammo at shortages but somehow there is an abundance of crossbows and arrows. :crazy:

Aren't there supposed to be three guns for every person whereas there is probably one crossbow for every 10,000?

I blame the Hunger Games and dumb producers.

BinauralJam

Jason P wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Well he is my favorite character from The Walking Dead

I like how all these post apocalyptic TV shows and movies have guns and ammo at shortages but somehow there is an abundance of crossbows and arrows. :crazy:

Aren't there supposed to be three guns for every person whereas there is probably one crossbow for every 10,000?

I blame the Hunger Games and dumb producers.

If there was a Zombie Apocolypse, America would probably be the safest place on the planet, but ya know, that makes for boring t.v.

Johnny Abruzzo

inlet13 wrote:

To me - if WWIII is confirmed, it will happen well after a confirmed depression just like the last two. So, I think the above would happen first.

I don't remember learning anything about a depression before WWI, but maybe you could direct me to this info.

inlet13

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

To me - if WWIII is confirmed, it will happen well after a confirmed depression just like the last two. So, I think the above would happen first.

I don't remember learning anything about a depression before WWI, but maybe you could direct me to this info.

The term depression was used loosely up until the Great Depression. Sometimes it was used in place of panic, sometimes it was used in place of recessions, which also just meant lesser depression. There was and still is no formal definition for Depression. There were plenty of economic downturns, and debt scenarios, that preceded WWI in the US. And there were more in the EU, which was the trigger zone. I would say the Long Depression played a part, but the data says it was 10+ years prior.

In my opinion, another trigger was the creation of the Federal Reserve locally and more centralized banking in early 1900s. US was gaining power at the time so our system did play a part in trade. We have to know for sure data back then was miniscule and rough if useful at all, so a lot of what we deem as catalysts are simply guesses based on limited and terrible data.

Go Beavers

inlet13 wrote:

When do you think it will begin? How?

When the Soviet Union puts their nukes in Cuba.

MayDay10

I think it could be with Iran. It would be a messy war and may pit US/Israel vs China/Russia.

brianlux

I agree that World War Three is already here. I also think it will play out in one of three ways:

Total annihilation
A slow corrosive grinding up of civilization
Enlightenment

I always prefer to go with the long shot or, as Vaclav Havel put it, having the kind of hope that means doing what makes sense no matter what the outcome.

hedonist

Jason P wrote:

I blame the Hunger Games and dumb producers.

I like to blame dumb producers for a lot of things - well, them and their sycophants.

After all, they're the ones who've given us the Kardashians and that godawful Honey Poopoo kid (ok, I blame the mother more for that last one )

Byrnzie

usamamasan1 wrote:

peace through strength.

Except Americans know nothing about peace, or freedom for that matter. They're just words, like 'God', that you use to paint over a reality that's the complete opposite of what these words represent.

usamamasan1

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catefrances

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not so much. your country was born from war and has in one way or another been at war with herself and others ever since.

usamamasan1

My country is the greatest in all of humanity

God Bless

catefrances

usamamasan1 wrote:

My country is the greatest in all of humanity

God Bless

now i know even youre laughing at that one.

Byrnzie

usamamasan1 wrote:

My country is the greatest in all of humanity

God Bless

I can think of lot's places I'd rather live than America. But each to their own.