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Roger Clemens?

SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,876
edited August 2012 in All Encompassing Trip
Really?
REALLY?

Why?

Why cant that steroid freak just walk away?
Take me piece by piece.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    He was proven innocent...that's all I'll say about that. Some think he wants to pitch again so he can push back his HOF eligibilty for 5 years perhaps when the stereroid whiplash is less harsh. IDK...I just think it's his competitive nature and wants to prove people wrong. That's why I like the guy so much. I used to laugh when people called him chickenshit and all that BS for throwing inside or at people...but you know what...no one...NO ONE ever charged him on the mound. You know why...he'd beat the piss out of you. I remember when Shawn Estes playing for the Mets had the opportunity of a lifetime to hit Clemens for the Piazza incident the year before...you remember what he did...he threw a breaking ball behind him. :lol: Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,876
    DS1119 wrote:
    He was proven innocent...that's all I'll say about that. Some think he wants to pitch again so he can push back his HOF eligibilty for 5 years perhaps when the stereroid whiplash is less harsh. IDK...I just think it's his competitive nature and wants to prove people wrong. That's why I like the guy so much. I used to laugh when people called him chickenshit and all that BS for throwing inside or at people...but you know what...no one...NO ONE ever charged him on the mound. You know why...he'd beat the piss out of you. I remember when Shawn Estes playing for the Mets had the opportunity of a lifetime to hit Clemens for the Piazza incident the year before...you remember what he did...he threw a breaking ball behind him. :lol: Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.
    OJ Simpson was found innocent too..

    Thats all I have to say about that.......
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Can you use steroids in the independent leagues? Serious question, do they even test?
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    He was proven innocent...that's all I'll say about that. Some think he wants to pitch again so he can push back his HOF eligibilty for 5 years perhaps when the stereroid whiplash is less harsh. IDK...I just think it's his competitive nature and wants to prove people wrong. That's why I like the guy so much. I used to laugh when people called him chickenshit and all that BS for throwing inside or at people...but you know what...no one...NO ONE ever charged him on the mound. You know why...he'd beat the piss out of you. I remember when Shawn Estes playing for the Mets had the opportunity of a lifetime to hit Clemens for the Piazza incident the year before...you remember what he did...he threw a breaking ball behind him. :lol: Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.
    OJ Simpson was found innocent too..

    Thats all I have to say about that.......


    And that's fair, but he was found innocent and how he's judged by the public is out of his control. What is in his control is perhaps a comeback. I hope he makes it. I bet you with a full spring training next year he's still better than half of the 4th and 5th starters that get wheeled out to the mound as sacrificial lambs every week.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    Dude topped out at 87, right?
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Dude topped out at 87, right?


    That's what was reported. They also reported he was locating all of his pitches. I don't think the last 3 or 4 years of his career he was hitting 90 anyhow. Not sure about that, but still 87 without any major league support...I think the bastards going to do it. :lol:
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,876
    I hope he tears his rotator...
    Tears both hamstrings...
    And gives himself a hernia....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    he threw the bat at piazza 5 minutes b4 i walked into the pj 10th anni show in vegas .....

    now that was a double great night
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,876
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    he threw the bat at piazza 5 minutes b4 i walked into the pj 10th anni show in vegas .....

    now that was a double great night
    Roger is/was a class act.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    he threw the bat at piazza 5 minutes b4 i walked into the pj 10th anni show in vegas .....

    now that was a double great night
    Roger is/was a class act.....


    its just happened on the same night so its easy to remember the two
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    he threw the bat at piazza 5 minutes b4 i walked into the pj 10th anni show in vegas .....

    now that was a double great night
    Roger is/was a class act.....


    He was throwing it into the on deck circle to get the bat off the playing field.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    From the Torre book on Clemens....

    Then Donahue would rub the hottest possible liniment on his testicles.

    “He’d start snorting like a bull,” the trainer said. “That’s when he was ready to pitch.”
  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    From the Torre book on Clemens....

    Then Donahue would rub the hottest possible liniment on his testicles.

    “He’d start snorting like a bull,” the trainer said. “That’s when he was ready to pitch.”

    i do that for fun

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    I remember and love Clemens from his glory days ...

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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    From the Torre book on Clemens....

    Then Donahue would rub the hottest possible liniment on his testicles.

    “He’d start snorting like a bull,” the trainer said. “That’s when he was ready to pitch.”


    Love it! :lol::lol: I remember having seats 4 rows behind home plate in 01 I think it was. The Yankees were playing the Ginats and CLemens was piching against Russ Ortiz. This was the game that CLemens said if Barry Bonds crowded the plate on him he was going to knock that damn elbow pad right off his arm. First at bat...what did CLemens do? Plunked the fucker right on the elbow pad. It was great!!! :lol::lol: Nto a peep out of Barry...not a peep from DUsty Baker! :lol:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    DS1119 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    From the Torre book on Clemens....

    Then Donahue would rub the hottest possible liniment on his testicles.

    “He’d start snorting like a bull,” the trainer said. “That’s when he was ready to pitch.”


    Love it! :lol::lol: I remember having seats 4 rows behind home plate in 01 I think it was. The Yankees were playing the Ginats and CLemens was piching against Russ Ortiz. This was the game that CLemens said if Barry Bonds crowded the plate on him he was going to knock that damn elbow pad right off his arm. First at bat...what did CLemens do? Plunked the fucker right on the elbow pad. It was great!!! :lol::lol: Nto a peep out of Barry...not a peep from DUsty Baker! :lol:

    That's awesome. I remember that clearly. Imagine that fight.

    The best part is that he had the trainer do it. I doubt that was in Steve Donahue's job description :lol:
  • PJFAN13PJFAN13 Posts: 1,422
    DS1119 wrote:
    Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.
    Definitely one of the most dominant pitchers in my lifetime - over 350 wins and 7 Cy Youngs...
    He may have been found "not guilty" in his second trial - after the original trial was a "mistrial" - but he did cheat - that whole era cheated for gods sake...Jose Canseco's book, Jeff Perlman's book, the 82 mentions in the Mitchell Report, & his close friend and teammate Andy Pettitte all can't be wrong, can they?
    Anyway - I always laugh when people say "he's a winner"...he's tied with Glavine & Smoltz for being on the most losing World Series teams...Here's what I remember of Clemens in big spots, besides his postseason record of 12–8 in 34 starts, with a 3.75 ERA:
    1986 - ALCS - Gm 1 - sucked
    1986 - World Series - Gm 2 - sucked
    1986 - World Series - Gm 6 - took himself out because of a 'blister'
    1990 - ALCS - Gm4 - meltdown and ejection - sucked
    1999 - ALCS - vs Pedro & Boston - loss (only loss Yankees had)
    2004 - NLCS - Gm 7 - battered & loss - then pulled a hammy in the World Series

    He was great as the hypnotized chicken on the Simpsons, however...
    11.30.93~10.2.96~9.13.98~9.1.00~8.25.00~7.3.03~7.5.03
    7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
    8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
    11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
    2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    Jason P wrote:
    I remember and love Clemens from his glory days ...

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  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    he threw the bat at piazza 5 minutes b4 i walked into the pj 10th anni show in vegas .....

    now that was a double great night

    hahha funny me too. I was at the ny ny before the show watching the game..went to the show then went back to ny ny and won like 8 hondo sitting at a craps table for 6 hours..smoked like 2 packs..had like 20 drinks..great night!!
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,874
    Ehhhh, can't this guy just go away???
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,634
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Can you use steroids in the independent leagues? Serious question, do they even test?

    I doubt they have the budget for that.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,522
    DS1119 wrote:
    He was proven innocent...that's all I'll say about that. Some think he wants to pitch again so he can push back his HOF eligibilty for 5 years perhaps when the stereroid whiplash is less harsh. IDK...I just think it's his competitive nature and wants to prove people wrong. That's why I like the guy so much. I used to laugh when people called him chickenshit and all that BS for throwing inside or at people...but you know what...no one...NO ONE ever charged him on the mound. You know why...he'd beat the piss out of you. I remember when Shawn Estes playing for the Mets had the opportunity of a lifetime to hit Clemens for the Piazza incident the year before...you remember what he did...he threw a breaking ball behind him. :lol: Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.

    He will never ever get in , great he was an arrogant prick he is .....
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Wma31394 wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    he threw the bat at piazza 5 minutes b4 i walked into the pj 10th anni show in vegas .....

    now that was a double great night

    hahha funny me too. I was at the ny ny before the show watching the game..went to the show then went back to ny ny and won like 8 hondo sitting at a craps table for 6 hours..smoked like 2 packs..had like 20 drinks..great night!!


    we played WAR after the show :lol:

    got killed
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    PJFAN13 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.
    Definitely one of the most dominant pitchers in my lifetime - over 350 wins and 7 Cy Youngs...
    He may have been found "not guilty" in his second trial - after the original trial was a "mistrial" - but he did cheat - that whole era cheated for gods sake...Jose Canseco's book, Jeff Perlman's book, the 82 mentions in the Mitchell Report, & his close friend and teammate Andy Pettitte all can't be wrong, can they?
    Anyway - I always laugh when people say "he's a winner"...he's tied with Glavine & Smoltz for being on the most losing World Series teams...Here's what I remember of Clemens in big spots, besides his postseason record of 12–8 in 34 starts, with a 3.75 ERA:
    1986 - ALCS - Gm 1 - sucked
    1986 - World Series - Gm 2 - sucked
    1986 - World Series - Gm 6 - took himself out because of a 'blister'
    1990 - ALCS - Gm4 - meltdown and ejection - sucked
    1999 - ALCS - vs Pedro & Boston - loss (only loss Yankees had)
    2004 - NLCS - Gm 7 - battered & loss - then pulled a hammy in the World Series

    He was great as the hypnotized chicken on the Simpsons, however...


    You forgot to mention his World Series rings, his playoff success', and the number of teams he was on that went to the playoffs. :lol:
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    josevolution wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:
    He was proven innocent...that's all I'll say about that. Some think he wants to pitch again so he can push back his HOF eligibilty for 5 years perhaps when the stereroid whiplash is less harsh. IDK...I just think it's his competitive nature and wants to prove people wrong. That's why I like the guy so much. I used to laugh when people called him chickenshit and all that BS for throwing inside or at people...but you know what...no one...NO ONE ever charged him on the mound. You know why...he'd beat the piss out of you. I remember when Shawn Estes playing for the Mets had the opportunity of a lifetime to hit Clemens for the Piazza incident the year before...you remember what he did...he threw a breaking ball behind him. :lol: Clemens is a winner and has a winner's attitude and that's why I think he's one of the greatest and pesonally I hope he makes it.

    He will never ever get in , great he was an arrogant prick he is .....


    Never now...maybe maybe not. If Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, Johnny Bench, I could keep going on... got in though there's always hope for at least one more arrogant bastard to do it. :lol:
  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    He probably just needs some dough..with all the lawyer fees he probably saw his account diminish a bit and wants his name back in the spotlight. What is he 50 i think I heard..He could probably do a few starts but once he tweaks something hes done.
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,634
    the cynics are saying he could be looking to make ONE more MLB start. if he gets that, he pushes the HOF vote back another 5 years and would still be on the ballot 20 years from now.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • Wma31394Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    imalive wrote:
    the cynics are saying he could be looking to make ONE more MLB start. if he gets that, he pushes the HOF vote back another 5 years and would still be on the ballot 20 years from now.

    IMO smart move..
    "Going where the water tastes like wine!"
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