VA Bakery Owner Says “No” to Biden Photo Op

aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
VA Bakery Owner Says “No” to Biden Photo Op


A Virginia bakery owner is making national headlines for saying that he would prefer that Vice President Joe Biden not stop by his shop during a campaign trip. It seems that the VP and his staff wanted to do a photo op at the cupcake shop called, ‘Crumb and Get It.’

The owner acknowledges that it’s a new store and that he could really use the business, but said that he could just not say “yes” because he disagrees with Obama’s recent remarks on small businesses. “Very simply, ‘you didn’t build that’,” Chris McMurray said. “Speaking of small businesses and entrepreneurs all across this country and actually last night my wife was up all night. No sleep, she’s worked a full 24 hours.”

Wall Street Journal’s Stephen Moore weighed in on this issue during today’s America’s Newsroom. He said he agrees with this businessman, saying, “I don’t think that the White House completely gets it. How insulted entrepreneurs and small business owners feel towards that statement that President Obama said … bottomline here, I think the president has a small business problem.”


http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/08/17/va-bakery-owner-says-no-to-biden-photo-op-because-of-president-obamas-small-business-remarks/



What a way to nicely say "F@#* You! My wife and I built this!!!"
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Here’s the full context of what he said:

    "We’ve already made a trillion dollars’ worth of cuts. We can make some more cuts in programs that don’t work, and make government work more efficiently…We can make another trillion or trillion-two, and what we then do is ask for the wealthy to pay a little bit more …

    There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me, because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

    The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

    So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for president – because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.”
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Here is the full meaning of the full context

    "You didn't build that"
    Cosmo wrote:
    I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.


    "You didn't build that" from being smart or hardworking. The government did by spending your taxes. Nothing was taken out of context.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Here is the full meaning of the full context

    "You didn't build that"
    ...
    Which is right... right?
    I mean, did the baker build the building? Did he build the street it is on? Did he build the bridges that connect to the street? Did he build the power grid? The water system? The sewage system? The Internet system to advertise?
    If your answer is, "Yes, he build all of that". Then, it is a true assessment... in and of itself.
    If your answer is, "No, a lot of Americans laid the groundwork for success." then, you agree... that the grabbing on one sentence and stating it out of context is assinine.
    ...
    I know you are smarter than to think one sentence or picking apart words does anything other than further along partisan political propaganda... am I right or am I wrong?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    he is clearly slighting the businesmans success.
    it's class warfare. It's wanting to "spread the pie up" Joe the plumber style.

    Obama has made the OWS types all angry at success. it's funny.

    TAX THE RICH!

    emoticon
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    Here is the full meaning of the full context

    "You didn't build that"
    ...
    Which is right... right?
    I mean, did the baker build the building? Did he build the street it is on? Did he build the bridges that connect to the street? Did he build the power grid? The water system? The sewage system? The Internet system to advertise?
    If your answer is, "Yes, he build all of that". Then, it is a true assessment... in and of itself.
    If your answer is, "No, a lot of Americans laid the groundwork for success." then, you agree... that the grabbing on one sentence and stating it out of context is assinine.
    ...
    I know you are smarter than to think one sentence or picking apart words does anything other than further along partisan political propaganda... am I right or am I wrong?


    The small business owner does NOT get government bail outs....they succeed or they fail, and they do it on there own. If there is no business why would we need the road?

    Why is it when this President says something ignorant he is "taken out of context", when he lies he "misspoke"? how about calling it what it is and stop covering up for the guy?
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    truth be told


    “With you, we can win North Carolina again!” Biden told the Virginia crowd.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited August 2012
    simple minded defense when he is clearly slighting the businesmans success.

    it's class warfare. It's wanting to "spread the pie up" Joe the plumber style.

    Obama has made the OWS types all angry at success. it's funny.

    TAX THE RICH!

    emoticon
    ...
    Actually, why not make the rich pay a similar percentage of what you have to pay?
    I mean, what bracket are you in? Do you pay less than 16% of your personal income in taxes? Or is it more in the 24% range with some portions in the 35% bracket?
    Post edited by Cosmo on
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited August 2012
    aerial wrote:
    The small business owner does NOT get government bail outs....they succeed or they fail, and they do it on there own. If there is no business why would we need the road?

    Why is it when this President says something ignorant he is "taken out of context", when he lies he "misspoke"? how about calling it what it is and stop covering up for the guy?
    ...
    We would still need roads so I could drive my corporation built car to my job at the giant corporation I work for, using a giant corporation's computer system to run a giant corporation's database software. Then, to drive to the bank to cash my check so I can drive to the Costco to buy items made by giant corporations.
    ...
    And I defended former President Bush and his administration when people tried to take one sentence out of context so it fit in their specific, anti-Bush platform. I am a believer in ideals, not partisan political ideologies. That the whole must be taken as a whole, not bit by bit or one nut and bolt that I don't think fits in.
    People who do that are fucking idiots.
    ...
    Again... read the ENTIRE content I posted... THEN, comment on the entire idea... not, one sentence.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    truth be told


    “With you, we can win North Carolina again!” Biden told the Virginia crowd.
    ...
    No one is arguing that Joe Biden isn't an idiot.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,423
    I've had a fairly successful small business for about 10 years. It's not making me rich, but it's still going steadily enough. My wife and her business partner have small business that's closing in on a 29 year run. We know a lot of other small business owners in our downtown area. I don't know what the big fuss is over what Obama said. He's right- we didn't do it on our own. Most of us needed help getting started. All of us rely on our customers. We rely on the downtown business association to organize events to bring in more business to downtown. We rely on the city to keep the up the roads and provide parking. Earlier this year we had help from the Sacramento Bee when they ran an article about the store which brought in new customers. Yeah we work our butts off- damn straight we do. And we're smart and very good at what we do or, believe me, we wouldn't still be in the used book business. Anyone in the business will tell you that. But we didn't do it on our own. Anybody in small business with any sense will tell you that also.

    So what is the argument about? Look at it again:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng

    What the man is saying is correct.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    brianlux wrote:
    I've had a fairly successful small business for about 10 years. It's not making me rich, but it's still going steadily enough. My wife and her business partner have small business that's closing in on a 29 year run. We know a lot of other small business owners in our downtown area. I don't know what the big fuss is over what Obama said. He's right- we didn't do it on our own. Most of us needed help getting started. All of us rely on our customers. We rely on the downtown business association to organize events to bring in more business to downtown. We rely on the city to keep the up the roads and provide parking. Earlier this year we had help from the Sacramento Bee when they ran an article about the store which brought in new customers. Yeah we work our butts off- damn straight we do. And we're smart and very good at what we do or, believe me, we wouldn't still be in the used book business. Anyone in the business will tell you that. But we didn't do it on our own. Anybody in small business with any sense will tell you that also.

    So what is the argument about? Look at it again:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng

    What the man is saying is correct.
    ...
    That was the point... as long as you read the ENTIRE speech.
    That it takes a lot of Americans, working together to help each other succeed.
    If that is not a true assessment, someone explain to me... what is?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    No one from the government was there when we were sweating it, when we were building this business. I'm proud of the business I've built, so I appreciate Mitt Romney for standing up for people like me. He knows the kind of hard work and dedication it takes to make a business successful.





    We need a president who understands business. Who understands what it means to make payroll. Who understands what it means to grow an enterprise and to be successful. I think Mitt is the candidate for the job.
     
    Show pride in your accomplishments -- and help Mitt and the Republican team win in November.
     

     
    Thanks,
     
    Ross Murty
    Co-owner, Village Corner Deli
    Davenport, IA
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,423
    No one from the government was there when we were sweating it, when we were building this business. I'm proud of the business I've built, so I appreciate Mitt Romney for standing up for people like me. He knows the kind of hard work and dedication it takes to make a business successful.





    We need a president who understands business. Who understands what it means to make payroll. Who understands what it means to grow an enterprise and to be successful. I think Mitt is the candidate for the job.
     
    Show pride in your accomplishments -- and help Mitt and the Republican team win in November.
     

     
    Thanks,
     
    Ross Murty
    Co-owner, Village Corner Deli
    Davenport, IA

    Dear Ross,

    How is it you manage to eat all your own hoagies?

    Puzzled in CA
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    people decline offers to meet politicians all the time. bfd...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • So is it willfull ignorance or just being dense?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    No one from the government was there when we were sweating it, when we were building this business. I'm proud of the business I've built, so I appreciate Mitt Romney for standing up for people like me. He knows the kind of hard work and dedication it takes to make a business successful.

    We need a president who understands business. Who understands what it means to make payroll. Who understands what it means to grow an enterprise and to be successful. I think Mitt is the candidate for the job.
     
    Show pride in your accomplishments -- and help Mitt and the Republican team win in November.
     
    Thanks,
     Ross Murty
    Co-owner, Village Corner Deli
    Davenport, IA
    ...
    So... i take it, Villege Corner Deli NEVER borrowed money from other Americans who built their bank. Mr. Murty built the bank, then borrowed money from it to finance the deli. Got it.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    I find it humorous that people would really defend this message. It is clear that he wasn't on teleprompter for that portion and he was saying what he thought.

    I get his overall point, but it is still a very big difference in philosophy. He clearly states that there are a lot of smart hard-working people so you aren't special and can't do it alone.

    Whether it was truly a jab or just some VERY poor wording, I'm shocked people can't just say...jeez, what an idiot thing to say.

    Hell, people bash the hell out of Mitt's "corporations are people"...when he clearly meant they are made up of people. Which is technically 100% true.

    Cake or eat. Can't have both.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I find it humorous that people would really defend this message. It is clear that he wasn't on teleprompter for that portion and he was saying what he thought.

    I get his overall point, but it is still a very big difference in philosophy. He clearly states that there are a lot of smart hard-working people so you aren't special and can't do it alone.

    Whether it was truly a jab or just some VERY poor wording, I'm shocked people can't just say...jeez, what an idiot thing to say.

    Hell, people bash the hell out of Mitt's "corporations are people"...when he clearly meant they are made up of people. Which is technically 100% true.

    Cake or eat. Can't have both.
    ...
    Actually, I am against taking one line of text out of the entire content and creating a seperate identity.
    Just like I am against taking one line from the Bible and bending it to fit a personal belief, I'm against taking one line from a speech and bending it to fit partisan political propaganda. Take something in it's full context and argue that.
    That's all.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
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