Paul Ryan is definitely a LIAR...

gimmesometruth27

"i never did things just to do them...i never requested stimulus money like it's something to do, i got a little more sense than that.....yeah i remember writing letters requesting stimulus money..."

:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

fucking liar...

Presented With Letters, Ryan Admits Requesting Stimulus Cash

http://news.yahoo.com/presented-letters ... itics.html

After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

"The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

The letters were first obtained by The Wall Street Journal through the Freedom of Information Act back in early 2010. The Boston Globe turned them up for the first time during this campaign season Wednesday. At that point, a Ryan aide referred ABC News back to what a Ryan spokesman said when the letters first went public.

"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

inlet13

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

"i never did things just to do them...i never requested stimulus money like it's something to do, i got a little more sense than that.....yeah i remember writing letters requesting stimulus money..."

:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

fucking liar...

Presented With Letters, Ryan Admits Requesting Stimulus Cash

http://news.yahoo.com/presented-letters ... itics.html

After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

"The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

The letters were first obtained by The Wall Street Journal through the Freedom of Information Act back in early 2010. The Boston Globe turned them up for the first time during this campaign season Wednesday. At that point, a Ryan aide referred ABC News back to what a Ryan spokesman said when the letters first went public.

"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

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Dissidentman

This thread could be named "Insert politicians name here" is definitely a LIAR...

polaris_x

inlet13 wrote:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive%E2 ... e_behavior

dimitrispearljam

Dissidentman wrote:

This thread could be named "Insert politicians name here" is definitely a LIAR...

gimmesometruth27

inlet13 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

"i never did things just to do them...i never requested stimulus money like it's something to do, i got a little more sense than that.....yeah i remember writing letters requesting stimulus money..."

:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

fucking liar...

Presented With Letters, Ryan Admits Requesting Stimulus Cash

http://news.yahoo.com/presented-letters ... itics.html

After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

"The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

The letters were first obtained by The Wall Street Journal through the Freedom of Information Act back in early 2010. The Boston Globe turned them up for the first time during this campaign season Wednesday. At that point, a Ryan aide referred ABC News back to what a Ryan spokesman said when the letters first went public.

"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

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care to comment on the thread?

didn't think so.

carry on...

hedonist

Dissidentman wrote:

This thread could be named "Insert politicians name here" is definitely a LIAR...

Yup.

(I am SO looking forward to the next couple of months!)

Jason P

inlet13 wrote:

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Cut him some slack. That's definately a hard word to spell. :ugeek:

Jason P

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive%E2 ... e_behavior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Albert_and_the_Cosby_Kids

lukin2006

Dissidentman wrote:

This thread could be named "Insert politicians name here" is definitely a LIAR...

Agreed

inlet13

Jason P wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive%E2 ... e_behavior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Albert_and_the_Cosby_Kids

Great show.

inlet13

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

care to comment on the thread?

didn't think so.

carry on...

Sure - all politicians are liars.

Give me a...

The Fixer

inlet13 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

"i never did things just to do them...i never requested stimulus money like it's something to do, i got a little more sense than that.....yeah i remember writing letters requesting stimulus money..."

:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

fucking liar...

Presented With Letters, Ryan Admits Requesting Stimulus Cash

http://news.yahoo.com/presented-letters ... itics.html

After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

"The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

The letters were first obtained by The Wall Street Journal through the Freedom of Information Act back in early 2010. The Boston Globe turned them up for the first time during this campaign season Wednesday. At that point, a Ryan aide referred ABC News back to what a Ryan spokesman said when the letters first went public.

"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

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Also, just an FYI...all politicians lie

Prince Of Dorkness

While it's true that all politicians lie (and frankly, so do virtually all people), insisting that you didn't take funds when you in fact did... (even though you railed against them and voted against then)... that's not the same as "I did not have sexual relations with that woman... Miss Lewinksky."

But we're talking about Paul Ryan. He's the one who rails against social security even though it's what paid for his college.

mikepegg44

In other words, Ryan is just another big-government Republican holding himself out as a fiscal conservative. Even his controversial budget proposals -- which the House approved, but the Senate declined to address -- would have increased government spending.


gotta love the Judge.

Ryan is as full of shit as almost all the rest...makes me sad that republicans hate American liberalism so much they are willing to accept politicians like him...

usamamasan1

FLAMING
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dissidentman wrote:

This thread could be named "Insert politicians name here" is definitely a LIAR...

I can't see any other reason for the wild behaviour.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

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fucking liar...

especialy when the fact is, Ryan's response seems very reasonable to me. Surely not one that would warrant such a vulgararity.

"I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it" and then...
"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

Another possibility of the OP's intent could be that he really feels that this distraction and divisivness is the best way to keep people talking about the dismal failure of Barack Hussein Obamas four years. Can't run on record so the liberals just follow lockstep with the agenda of distraction and division.

It's all very simple minded in my opionion. My country has much more important issues to address and I am confident our next President, Mitt Romney and his VP, Paul Ryan will help to restore America to greatness.

gimmesometruth27

the stimulus is bad, and i am gonna campaign on being against it, but i am gonna hold my hand out for a few million for wisconsin and conveniently forget about doing is until a journalist busts me on it...

don't these idiots know that whatever they do can be found out?

inmytree

usamamasan1 wrote:

FLAMING
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming_(Internet)

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Dissidentman wrote:

This thread could be named "Insert politicians name here" is definitely a LIAR...

I can't see any other reason for the wild behaviour.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

:fp: :fp: :fp: :fp: :fp:

fucking liar...

especialy when the fact is, Ryan's response seems very reasonable to me. Surely not one that would warrant such a vulgararity.

"I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it" and then...
"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

Another possibility of the OP's intent could be that he really feels that this distraction and divisivness is the best way to keep people talking about the dismal failure of Barack Hussein Obamas four years. Can't run on record so the liberals just follow lockstep with the agenda of distraction and division.

It's all very simple minded in my opionion. My country has much more important issues to address and I am confident our next President, Mitt Romney and his VP, Paul Ryan will help to restore America to greatness.

looks like Ryan built it....




with stimulus funds....

I win....

usamamasan1

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

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fucking liar...

I came to the opposite conclusion – good family man, into health, smarter than Obama and Romney combined ( Biden is a moron can you imagine him being president?) Ryan understands the healthcare issue completely and better than Obama Pelosi and reed who jammed it down our throats. Ryan wants to leave medicare alone and start over on a comprehensive health care plan that allows the U.S. citizens to choose what they want to do and not have the govt dictate to us what we have to take and what treatments and medications we will be allowed to have!!

Philosophical divide you bet there is! On that alone I would not vote for Obama.

inmytree

usamamasan1 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

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fucking liar...

I came to the opposite conclusion – good family man, into health, smarter than Obama and Romney combined ( Biden is a moron can you imagine him being president?) Ryan understands the healthcare issue completely and better than Obama Pelosi and reed who jammed it down our throats. Ryan wants to leave medicare alone and start over on a comprehensive health care plan that allows the U.S. citizens to choose what they want to do and not have the govt dictate to us what we have to take and what treatments and medications we will be allowed to have!!

Philosophical divide you bet there is! On that alone I would not vote for Obama.

those Rmoney voters better hurry up and get our way, or they will be run over....yikes...


"Paul Ryan did build it, with stimulus funds"

gimmesometruth27

inmytree wrote:

"Paul Ryan did build it, with stimulus funds"

now thats funny!

Prince Of Dorkness

usamamasan1 wrote:

Philosophical divide you bet there is! On that alone I would not vote for Obama.

So then... how come it's the red states that take by FAR the most government handouts, have the highest amount of people on welfare and unemployment and use the most government funds?

I've always wondered that.

but since you so clearly put it that Romney voters are the ones who do all the work, you can explain this... conundrum.

brianlux

Oh shit, now I guess I should start a thread called "Wikipedia Wars".

Oh, and no, it doesn't surprise me to hear Ryan was ratted out. Bad P.R.

VivaPalestina

i totally thought this thread was going to be about him being a rage against the machine fan.
Although, hopefully in the debates he will be called out on this.

DS1119

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

While it's true that all politicians lie (and frankly, so do virtually all people), insisting that you didn't take funds when you in fact did... (even though you railed against them and voted against then)... that's not the same as "I did not have sexual relations with that woman... Miss Lewinksky."

But we're talking about Paul Ryan. He's the one who rails against social security even though it's what paid for his college.

So there are different degrees of lying? Some are acceptable then and some aren't? :corn:

Prince Of Dorkness

DS1119 wrote:

So there are different degrees of lying? Some are acceptable then and some aren't? :corn:

"No, I don't think that dress makes you look fat" - acceptable lie

"Yes, your baby is beautiful." - acceptable lie

"I didn't take stimulus funds, the president is a socialist and I'll have none of it." - unacceptable lie

DS1119

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

So there are different degrees of lying? Some are acceptable then and some aren't? :corn:

"No, I don't think that dress makes you look fat" - acceptable lie

"Yes, your baby is beautiful." - acceptable lie

"I didn't take stimulus funds, the president is a socialist and I'll have none of it." - unacceptable lie

So lying during impeachment hearings is an acceptable lie right? :corn:

DS1119

DS1119 wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

So there are different degrees of lying? Some are acceptable then and some aren't? :corn:

"No, I don't think that dress makes you look fat" - acceptable lie

"Yes, your baby is beautiful." - acceptable lie

"I didn't take stimulus funds, the president is a socialist and I'll have none of it." - unacceptable lie

So lying during impeachment hearings is an acceptable lie right? :corn:

Guess this one will never be answered. :fp:

gimmesometruth27

it is stated that ryan wrote the request.

how can he forget?

did it just slip his mind that he asked for millions of dollars?

if i am asking for money, you can damn sure bet that i am going to remember that i asked for it...

DS1119

DS1119 wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

So there are different degrees of lying? Some are acceptable then and some aren't? :corn:

"No, I don't think that dress makes you look fat" - acceptable lie

"Yes, your baby is beautiful." - acceptable lie

"I didn't take stimulus funds, the president is a socialist and I'll have none of it." - unacceptable lie

So lying during impeachment hearings is an acceptable lie right? :corn:

:corn:

gimmesometruth27

DS1119 wrote:

:corn:

i'll take this bait...

we have all bashed clinton for being a liar. i do not see how that has anything to do with this topic. you are just defelecting from the real issue, that paul ryan has ralied against the stimulus at every turn while having his hand out waiting for that money. he specifically asked for it.

if you are gonna deflect, how about we add that rick perry also railed against the stimulus, but then gladly accepted the money. the money from that has been included in the texas budget.