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Todd Akin:Outlaw morning after pill, doesn't know what it is

Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
US Rep. Todd Akin defend outlawing of the morning-after pill, which he thinks causes abortions. (it doesn't, it actually prevents pregnancy and if taken by a pregnant woman, does nothing.)

More proof that letting idiots run for office and deal with stuff like "issues" and "facts." They often have no idea what they're talking about and further confuse and muddle the public's understanding of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APzrcpet ... r_embedded
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    :fp:

    Outlaw something that prevents pregnancy... something that can potentially save a mother thousands of dollars.

    Yet pills that can cause increased chances of cancer, a shorter lifespan, heart disease, etc. are okay.

    :fp:
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    "Why do all these men care what women do?? Jeez. Not your uterus, not your problem. I don't think I could ever have one unless it was absolutely necessary, but I understand the need for it to be legal. All you cranky old men need to stay out of our lives and personal business!" - HereWasNicole... from 2 days ago
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    outlaw something that could prevent unintended pregnancies and the very abortions they are concerned about - sure makes perfect sense :|
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  • satansbedsatansbed Posts: 2,139
    Thats really similar to a debate i saw between tim kaine and george allen.

    allen basically doesn't understand how the morning after pill works and comes across as an idiot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTkfRV9bc2U
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    satansbed wrote:
    Thats really similar to a debate i saw between tim kaine and george allen.

    allen basically doesn't understand how the morning after pill works and comes across as an idiot
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTkfRV9bc2U

    He at least sort of understands that the way the law was written would ban not the morning after pill but the birth control pill.

    (morning after pill prevents pregnancy. birth control pill essentially won't allow a fertilized egg "stick and grow into a baby" for lack of a more delicate term. So that means that anything that interferes with a fertilized egg would be illegal of "life begins at conception.")
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    don't let facts get in the way of a good debate ... :lol: (see global warming, capital punishment, etc...)
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I had to look it up...
    http://women.webmd.com/guide/plan-b


    Godfather.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    this clown akin wants to be my senator....

    i can not believe how this guy can repeatedly win elections... it is completely beyond me..

    i was wearing a Che shirt at the gym the other day and a big bodybuilder guy wearing an akin t-shirt told me "you should get out of america." :lol:

    if he wasn't bigger than me, and if i had had my smartass brain fully engaged i would have asked him why he hates women.. :lol:
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Godfather. wrote:
    I had to look it up...
    http://women.webmd.com/guide/plan-b


    Godfather.
    Right, so, wasn't the moniker "morning after pill" originally in reference to RU-486? Which is much more like an "abortion pill" than this newer Plan-B pill? Mayhaps that has something to do with the confusion.

    Can't watch the video at work, so I can't see what was specifically said.
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    MotoDC wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I had to look it up...
    http://women.webmd.com/guide/plan-b


    Godfather.
    Right, so, wasn't the moniker "morning after pill" originally in reference to RU-486? Which is much more like an "abortion pill" than this newer Plan-B pill? Mayhaps that has something to do with the confusion.

    Can't watch the video at work, so I can't see what was specifically said.

    No, RU-486 has never been called "the morning after pill." Unless by people who don't know what they're talking about.

    You only took Rau-486 once you were pregnant. Morning after pill prevents pregnancy.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Right, so, wasn't the moniker "morning after pill" originally in reference to RU-486? Which is much more like an "abortion pill" than this newer Plan-B pill? Mayhaps that has something to do with the confusion.

    Can't watch the video at work, so I can't see what was specifically said.

    No, RU-486 has never been called "the morning after pill." Unless by people who don't know what they're talking about.

    You only took Rau-486 once you were pregnant. Morning after pill prevents pregnancy.
    I seem to remember RU-486 being called "the morning after pill" many years ago, always with the disclaimer that that wasn't how it actually worked. I'm talking really ancient history here, like maybe the early 90s? :think:
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Who Princess wrote:
    I seem to remember RU-486 being called "the morning after pill" many years ago, always with the disclaimer that that wasn't how it actually worked. I'm talking really ancient history here, like maybe the early 90s? :think:


    Not by anyone Who knew the first thing about it.

    Do you watch fox news?
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    I seem to remember RU-486 being called "the morning after pill" many years ago, always with the disclaimer that that wasn't how it actually worked. I'm talking really ancient history here, like maybe the early 90s? :think:


    Not by anyone Who knew the first thing about it.

    Do you watch fox news?
    No.

    My memory isn't the greatest. I just seem to remember it being called that, as I said, with the caveat that it wasn't really how the drug worked. It wasn't in widespread use but I was a rape crisis volunteer and I knew it was available for victims of sexual assault.

    I wasn't trying to say you're incorrect, just that I remember the term being used. Or at least I think I do. I agree that Akin sounds like an idiot. Does such a thing as a well-informed politician even exist? (rhetorical question)
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    I'm sure the two have been confused. But by the same people who think I can give their animal medical attention when I tell them I'm a vegetarian.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    I seem to remember RU-486 being called "the morning after pill" many years ago, always with the disclaimer that that wasn't how it actually worked. I'm talking really ancient history here, like maybe the early 90s? :think:


    Not by anyone Who knew the first thing about it.

    Do you watch fox news?

    why are you so angry ? 90% of your posts are an attempt to belittle someone.

    Godfather.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I had to look it up...
    http://women.webmd.com/guide/plan-b


    Godfather.
    Right, so, wasn't the moniker "morning after pill" originally in reference to RU-486? Which is much more like an "abortion pill" than this newer Plan-B pill? Mayhaps that has something to do with the confusion.

    Can't watch the video at work, so I can't see what was specifically said.

    No, RU-486 has never been called "the morning after pill." Unless by people who don't know what they're talking about.

    You only took Rau-486 once you were pregnant. Morning after pill prevents pregnancy.
    Yes I know the basic difference between Plan B and RU-486. My point was that the "morning after pill" misconception (no pun intended) was/is likely more common than you're allowing. For example, although I personally am aware of the fact that RU-486 and Plan-B work very differently, if some random used the phrase "morning after pill" in conversation, I would not be willing to assume that they were using the term correctly. I.e., I wouldn't necessarily presume to know whether they intended to mean RU-486 or Plan B based on that statement alone.

    Is that a scientific study of the normative use of "morning after pill"? Hardly. But neither are your multiple statements of derision for anyone who could possibly not be aware of the nuances of post-intercourse family planning options. Such a grumpster.
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    MotoDC wrote:
    Yes I know the basic difference between Plan B and RU-486. My point was that the "morning after pill" misconception (no pun intended) was/is likely more common than you're allowing. For example, although I personally am aware of the fact that RU-486 and Plan-B work very differently, if some random used the phrase "morning after pill" in conversation, I would not be willing to assume that they were using the term correctly. I.e., I wouldn't necessarily presume to know whether they intended to mean RU-486 or Plan B based on that statement alone.

    Is that a scientific study of the normative use of "morning after pill"? Hardly. But neither are your multiple statements of derision for anyone who could possibly not be aware of the nuances of post-intercourse family planning options. Such a grumpster.
    This is probably true, but if you're in the position to pass laws about something, you should probably be very clear on what that something is and talk about it accurately.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    comebackgirl wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Yes I know the basic difference between Plan B and RU-486. My point was that the "morning after pill" misconception (no pun intended) was/is likely more common than you're allowing. For example, although I personally am aware of the fact that RU-486 and Plan-B work very differently, if some random used the phrase "morning after pill" in conversation, I would not be willing to assume that they were using the term correctly. I.e., I wouldn't necessarily presume to know whether they intended to mean RU-486 or Plan B based on that statement alone.

    Is that a scientific study of the normative use of "morning after pill"? Hardly. But neither are your multiple statements of derision for anyone who could possibly not be aware of the nuances of post-intercourse family planning options. Such a grumpster.
    This is probably true, but if you're in the position to pass laws about something, you should probably be very clear on what that something is and talk about it accurately.
    come on, this is america here....all you need is a catchy jingo and people will vote for you...
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Yes I know the basic difference between Plan B and RU-486. My point was that the "morning after pill" misconception (no pun intended) was/is likely more common than you're allowing. For example, although I personally am aware of the fact that RU-486 and Plan-B work very differently, if some random used the phrase "morning after pill" in conversation, I would not be willing to assume that they were using the term correctly. I.e., I wouldn't necessarily presume to know whether they intended to mean RU-486 or Plan B based on that statement alone.

    Is that a scientific study of the normative use of "morning after pill"? Hardly. But neither are your multiple statements of derision for anyone who could possibly not be aware of the nuances of post-intercourse family planning options. Such a grumpster.
    This is probably true, but if you're in the position to pass laws about something, you should probably be very clear on what that something is and talk about it accurately.
    come on, this is america here....all you need is a catchy jingo and people will vote for you...

    so ya think I still have a shot at it ?
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Godfather. wrote:
    so ya think I still have a shot at it ?
    "Godfather. for President" "I'll make you an offer you can't refuse"
    :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
    Make it rhyme - it would be a bit catchier!
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    redrock wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    so ya think I still have a shot at it ?
    "Godfather. for President" "I'll make you an offer you can't refuse"
    :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
    Make it rhyme - it would be a bit catchier!

    It doesn't have to rhyme... He's the Don!
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    redrock wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    so ya think I still have a shot at it ?
    "Godfather. for President" "I'll make you an offer you can't refuse"
    :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
    Make it rhyme - it would be a bit catchier!


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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Godfather. wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Who Princess wrote:
    I seem to remember RU-486 being called "the morning after pill" many years ago, always with the disclaimer that that wasn't how it actually worked. I'm talking really ancient history here, like maybe the early 90s? :think:


    Not by anyone Who knew the first thing about it.

    Do you watch fox news?

    why are you so angry ? 90% of your posts are an attempt to belittle someone.

    Godfather.

    In my defense, that was more about belittling Fox News.
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Godfather. wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    This is probably true, but if you're in the position to pass laws about something, you should probably be very clear on what that something is and talk about it accurately.
    come on, this is america here....all you need is a catchy jingo and people will vote for you...

    so ya think I still have a shot at it ?
    "Godfather. for President" "I'll make you an offer you can't refuse"
    :lol::lol::lol:

    Godfather.
    absolutely, especially if you throw in a tax break for shoes :D
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    comebackgirl wrote:
    absolutely, especially if you throw in a tax break for shoes :D

    Girls and shoes...
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    absolutely, especially if you throw in a tax break for shoes :D

    Girls and shoes...

    Essential to life.....
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    redrock wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    absolutely, especially if you throw in a tax break for shoes :D

    Girls and shoes...

    Essential to life.....

    I've had one pair for 3 years.

    The other I just bought... that's it. :lol:

    Carry on, all.
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    absolutely, especially if you throw in a tax break for shoes :D

    Girls and shoes...
    ok...we'll throw in a tax break for ramen ;)
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    comebackgirl wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    absolutely, especially if you throw in a tax break for shoes :D

    Girls and shoes...
    ok...we'll throw in a tax break for ramen ;)

    That's okay... they only cost about 35¢ :lol:
  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    comebackgirl wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:

    Girls and shoes...
    ok...we'll throw in a tax break for ramen ;)

    That's okay... they only cost about 35¢ :lol:
    Way to economize! I'm voting you into elected office! :thumbup: :lol:
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