Republican or Democrat or......

Godfather.

I suppose because of my comments and opinion I have been labeled a Republican...
when I actually like ideas on both sides but I've never really concidered myself on or the other
but this election I find myself leaning heavly towards the republican side because my job my livelyhood
depends largly on military spending not to mention I have always believed two of the most important things in our country are education and military.I'll tell ya making a discisson when it come time to vote in a president
is a personal thing as much as it is a "good for all thing" and I find it hard to falt anybody for their vote but ya gotta vote that's the bottom line,we vote for personal reasons and if we don't then we have no room to bitch right ?

Godfather.

josevolution

I agree we have to vote this will be only my 2nd time voting for president ...

Godfather.

josevolution wrote:

I agree we have to vote this will be only my 2nd time voting for president ...

:thumbup:

Godfather.

Johnny Abruzzo

Some could say I'm voting against my best interest, because it's possible (hopefully probable) that our family income could rise to the point where Obama's planning on raising our taxes.

But I think an Obama win would be better for the country overall, specifically better for the planet. I just don't see how any issue could be more important than that. I have two little kids who could easily live until 2100 and I would like for them to have a habitable place to live their whole lives.

We've all got our issues that are important to us, right?

dimitrispearljam

how many people are at usa,?
all of them have the right to vote? and how many usally go to vote?

redrock

I find it disappointing that, in the end, a lot of us vote for the 'lesser of two evils'. No real choice - it always ends up a 'choice' between two major parties (in most western countries) as the smaller ones have absolutely no chance of winning, even getting close to it.

So what to do? 'Waste' a vote on a party that you would support but you know won't end up having any impact on policies, or vote for one of the two main parties - the one that offends you the least?

norm

redrock wrote:

I find it disappointing that, in the end, a lot of us vote for the 'lesser of two evils'. No real choice - it always ends up a 'choice' between two major parties (in most western countries) as the smaller ones have absolutely no chance of winning, even getting close to it.

So what to do? 'Waste' a vote on a party that you would support but you know won't end up having any impact on policies, or vote for one of the two main parties - the one that offends you the least?

that's why we need to implement this

http://www.instantrunoff.com/

brianlux

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Some could say I'm voting against my best interest, because it's possible (hopefully probable) that our family income could rise to the point where Obama's planning on raising our taxes.

But I think an Obama win would be better for the country overall, specifically better for the planet. I just don't see how any issue could be more important than that. I have two little kids who could easily live until 2100 and I would like for them to have a habitable place to live their whole lives.

We've all got our issues that are important to us, right?

Yes! Voting for a healthy planet for our kids seems like the responsible thing to do. I'm not sure Obama has shown that he is as concerned about the planet as I'd like him to be but if the choice that way is Obama vs Romney, Obama clearly seems to me to be the best choice.

Social and economic issues are important but, as Yvon Chouinard once pointed out, without a healthy planet to live on there could not be any social or economic issues to worry about.

Godfather.

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Some could say I'm voting against my best interest, because it's possible (hopefully probable) that our family income could rise to the point where Obama's planning on raising our taxes.

But I think an Obama win would be better for the country overall, specifically better for the planet. I just don't see how any issue could be more important than that. I have two little kids who could easily live until 2100 and I would like for them to have a habitable place to live their whole lives.

We've all got our issues that are important to us, right?

yes sir ! there is nothing more important than our kids.
I wish we could get a runner that had values that cover all the things I hope for in our country
but it always seems to be split down the middle...is that where money and politics begin ?

I would like: a strong military
strong education system
strong eviromental plans but also a co-op between business and ECA (enviromental control agenceys)
there's more but I gotta get my ass back to work..

Godfather.

BinauralJam

I'm a Liberal Republican, nobody represents me.

Godfather.

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm a Liberal Republican, nobody represents me.

Vote Godfather. for President (The Repubracrat Party)

BinauralJam

Godfather. wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm a Liberal Republican, nobody represents me.

Vote Godfather. for President (The Repubracrat Party)

I would! You could get P.J. to play your Inaugural Party

Johnny Abruzzo

brianlux wrote:

I'm not sure Obama has shown that he is as concerned about the planet as I'd like him to be but if the choice that way is Obama vs Romney, Obama clearly seems to me to be the best choice.

He's taken some decent steps. Baby steps if you will. I certainly wish more would have been done, but it certainly is an improvement over the W Administration.

Of all the things in the current Republican party, the opposition to practically any environmentally friendly action is just mystifying to me.

hedonist

I fall under the "or....." category.

And it seems like these political discussions - usually (thankfully, not always) flinging shit to and from the left, the right and the middle - aren't that much different from those concerning religion. Many are quick to make assumptions, stereotype, badmouth, cheerlead, etc. I'm not talking specifically about this forum, but I've seen it here too.

redrock, you're right. It typically does come down to "the lesser of" situation, for me. And it's too damn bad.

dimitris - not a whole lot actually get their asses to the voting booths on election days! -- which is why I always go the absentee ballot route

TS1969

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm a Liberal Republican, nobody represents me.

+1

I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I like some ideas from both parties but unfortunately many points from both parties I disagree with. Still not sure who I will vote for.

But living in Oregon it doesn't matter. Our Electoral College votes will go to Obama.

Johnny Abruzzo

dimitrispearljam wrote:

how many people are at usa,?
all of them have the right to vote? and how many usally go to vote?

Not enough. And some people in this country are doing things to make it harder for people to vote.

My state has a new voter identification law, and poll workers have received no information about how it's supposed to work, less than 3 months before the election. It's going to be a catastrophe. Hopefully a court overturns it before that happens. (all that said I don't think the ID law will affect the results of the election, but it will disenfranchise people)

cincybearcat

dimitrispearljam wrote:

how many people are at usa,?
all of them have the right to vote? and how many usally go to vote?

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

redrock

Looking at the US from the 'outside' I also really need to consider how they deal with the rest of the world, their foreign policies and impact of these, not only in the US but the worldwide repercussions. Maybe something that those living in the US may not see at important.

BinauralJam

TS1969 wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

I'm a Liberal Republican, nobody represents me.

+1

I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I like some ideas from both parties but unfortunately many points from both parties I disagree with. Still not sure who I will vote for.

But living in Oregon it doesn't matter. Our Electoral College votes will go to Obama.

Same with New York, there really is no point in voting, it will be decided by the time i get home form work that night.

dimitrispearljam

one more question,
someone moved to the states,after how many years he has a right to vote?
in Greece after u living 5 years in the row,you can get Greek nationality and have the right to vote

dimitrispearljam

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

how many people are at usa,?
all of them have the right to vote? and how many usally go to vote?

Not enough. And some people in this country are doing things to make it harder for people to vote.

My state has a new voter identification law, and poll workers have received no information about how it's supposed to work, less than 3 months before the election. It's going to be a catastrophe. Hopefully a court overturns it before that happens. (all that said I don't think the ID law will affect the results of the election, but it will disenfranchise people)

cincybearcat wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

how many people are at usa,?
all of them have the right to vote? and how many usally go to vote?

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

thanks