but but... FREE SPEECH!!!
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Godfather. wrote:Prince Of Dorkness wrote:I think it's the next shape in Lucky Charms. They're magically delicious, I hear.
NOOOOOOOOO !
Godfather.
Blue moons, yellow stars, green clovers and purple penises.
They're always trying to get a hold of me Lucky Charms.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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hedonist wrote:You're on a roll today, Cosmo
This morning... I scored a pair of tickets to the Green Day Secret Show at the little Echoplex for tonight. Thinking about bailing from work early. Me so happy.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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The guy with the Cheerio box is an idiot and should be charged with arson.
But....the OP isn't really an accurate assessment of why people were showing support. They were showing support because people - I think it was a few mayors in Boston and Chicago - we're trying to do economic harm to the company for expressing free speech.
There really isn't a correlation to the Cheerio thing because nobody with any power is trying to do economic harm to Cheerios for it.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
Cosmo wrote:Prince Of Dorkness wrote:I think it's the next shape in Lucky Charms. They're magically delicious, I hear.
Blue moons, yellow stars, green clovers and purple penises.
They're always trying to get a hold of me Lucky Charms.All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.0 -
know1 wrote:The guy with the Cheerio box is an idiot and should be charged with arson.
But....the OP isn't really an accurate assessment of why people were showing support. They were showing support because people - I think it was a few mayors in Boston and Chicago - we're trying to do economic harm to the company for expressing free speech.
There really isn't a correlation to the Cheerio thing because nobody with any power is trying to do economic harm to Cheerios for it.
Again, we agree.
It was the politicians (Mayors) that did their politician bullshit that threw gasoline on a little squabble of a fire.
That is WHY the ACLU got involved... because it ain't right to levy restrictions on a legal business, simply based upon the business owner's opinion. Let the buying public make the call.
I agree.
The moral of the story is: 'Politicians is assholes'.Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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know1 wrote:The guy with the Cheerio box is an idiot and should be charged with arson.
But....the OP isn't really an accurate assessment of why people were showing support. They were showing support because people - I think it was a few mayors in Boston and Chicago - we're trying to do economic harm to the company for expressing free speech.
There really isn't a correlation to the Cheerio thing because nobody with any power is trying to do economic harm to Cheerios for it.
Oh please. When the lesbian nature retreat was denied a license to operate in Virginia or when the town council blocked the privately-owned movie theater from showing Brokeback Mountain in Missouri, none of those people lined up to buy chicken. And when the people in line were interviewed, none of them mentioned a couple of grandstanding politicians who jumped in head first. They all ranted about Jesus and how the gays were attacking marriage.
And again... It wasn't about "free speech," it was about millions of dollars donated to anti-gay hate groups and political action committees hell-bent on attacking our families.
So don't wrap yourself in the flag and claim this was about "free speech."
We all know that if a Mayor in Alabama tried to block a Starbucks for their pro-equality stance, not a single one of those people would be lining up for a Mocha-choka-latte-yaya.0 -
Prince Of Dorkness wrote:know1 wrote:The guy with the Cheerio box is an idiot and should be charged with arson.
But....the OP isn't really an accurate assessment of why people were showing support. They were showing support because people - I think it was a few mayors in Boston and Chicago - we're trying to do economic harm to the company for expressing free speech.
There really isn't a correlation to the Cheerio thing because nobody with any power is trying to do economic harm to Cheerios for it.
Oh please. When the lesbian nature retreat was denied a license to operate in Virginia or when the town council blocked the privately-owned movie theater from showing Brokeback Mountain in Missouri, none of those people lined up to buy chicken. And when the people in line were interviewed, none of them mentioned a couple of grandstanding politicians who jumped in head first. They all ranted about Jesus and how the gays were attacking marriage.
And again... It wasn't about "free speech," it was about millions of dollars donated to anti-gay hate groups and political action committees hell-bent on attacking our families.
So don't wrap yourself in the flag and claim this was about "free speech."
We all know that if a Mayor in Alabama tried to block a Starbucks for their pro-equality stance, not a single one of those people would be lining up for a Mocha-choka-latte-yaya.
You didn't use those examples in the OP.
But..I agree it wasn't about free speech. It was about government officials over-stepping their bounds.
All I was really saying is there wasn't a true correlation between Chick Fil-A and your example.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
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know1 wrote:All I was really saying is there wasn't a true correlation between Chick Fil-A and your example.
I wasn't trying to make one between this and the company ChilFilA.
I was talking about the Graffiti artist who had tagged one of the restaurants with spray paint and how conservatives were calling for his arrest and prosecution under "intimidation" and "suppressing free speech" when those same people were totally ignoring the guy who made a similarly dumb-ass protest by lighting fire to the lawn of General Mills and running away.
While I don't support the graffiti artist (who later admitted this was just a publicity stunt to promote his art show), I find it odd how he was branded a "domestic terrorist" but the obvious arsonist was shrugged off as "an idiot."0 -
Prince Of Dorkness wrote:know1 wrote:All I was really saying is there wasn't a true correlation between Chick Fil-A and your example.
I wasn't trying to make one between this and the company ChilFilA.
I was talking about the Graffiti artist who had tagged one of the restaurants with spray paint and how conservatives were calling for his arrest and prosecution under "intimidation" and "suppressing free speech" when those same people were totally ignoring the guy who made a similarly dumb-ass protest by lighting fire to the lawn of General Mills and running away.
While I don't support the graffiti artist (who later admitted this was just a publicity stunt to promote his art show), I find it odd how he was branded a "domestic terrorist" but the obvious arsonist was shrugged off as "an idiot."
That makes a little more sense, then. I didn't know anything about the grafiti artist so I wasn't familiar with the story. The first part of your post seemed to be trying to equate the support of Chick Fil-A to the flaming Cheerio guy but I guess I misunderstood.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
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know1 wrote:The first part of your post seemed to be trying to equate the support of Chick Fil-A to the flaming Cheerio guy but I guess I misunderstood.
In my defense, I don't speak American very well.0 -
Cosmo wrote:Godfather. wrote:Prince Of Dorkness wrote:I think it's the next shape in Lucky Charms. They're magically delicious, I hear.
NOOOOOOOOO !
Godfather.
Blue moons, yellow stars, green clovers and purple penises.
They're always trying to get a hold of me Lucky Charms.
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A Twin Cities man who staged a fiery protest outside General Mills headquarters in Golden Valley last week died several days later of a heart attack while running an errand, his family and their minister said Wednesday.
Michael L. Leisner, 65, of Andover, gained national television attention for setting a box of Cheerios on fire outside the cereal maker's corporate offices on Aug. 5 in a one-person protest of the company's support for same-sex marriage.
Leisner posted video of his act online, with it showing him scrambling to stomp out the flames before he hurriedly instructs his off-camera friends to get in the car. The video made its way onto cable television's "The Daily Show" and "Chelsea Lately."
Leisner died Saturday while waiting in his car for his sons to finish playing tennis, said Dwight Denyes, senior pastor at Emmanuel Christian Center in Spring Lake Park.
While he didn't know Leisner well, Denyes said that what the nation saw in the video "doesn't accurately reflect who he was as an individual. He was a very loving and caring father of his four children, a loving husband and he seemed to get along with other people."
In a statement, the family said that the two sons found Leisner in his car and not breathing. Resuscitation efforts were started, and Leisner was taken Mercy Hospital in Coon Rapids and died at night "of a massive heart attack," the statement continued.
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read the comments posted below the video. if folks are correct it seems he has died. what a dickheadfor poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7
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I am tired; my heart is
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RIP Flaming Cheerios Guy.
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