Birth Control Mandate Takes Effect

cincybearcat

catefrances wrote:

if this was about a males access to some medicine that helped him gain and keep an erection there wouldnt be a problem... oh wait.. thats right viagra IS covered by the majority of private medical health insurers.

It's not free though is it?

But I get your point and agree.

_

hedonist wrote:

I do wonder though - condoms are pretty cheap and effective. Aside from the (lack of) spontaneity factor, what's the issue with using them vs. the more-expensive BC pills? Why can't it be on both men and women to be responsible for contraception?

I agree that both men & women should be responsible for contraception.

But, relatively speaking, condoms are not very effective. Also, the importance of the mandate isn't about the pill so much as it is about IUDs and implants, which are significantly more effective than the pill but are super unaffordable.

Here's some data on what percentage of women/couples typically get pregnant within one year, based on their method of contraception:

Condoms - 15%
The Pill - 8%
ParaGard IUD - 0.8%
Female Sterilization - 0.5%
Mirena IUD - 0.2%
Contraceptive Implant - 0.05%

So women who rely on condoms for contraception are twice as likely to get pregnant just within the first year than those who use the pill and 300 times more likely to get pregnant within the first year than women who use implants. But Implants cost $659, not including the doctor's appointment and insertion fees. Many/most insurance companies didn't cover that 2 days ago, despite the fact that it would save them $billions.

Now, thanks to the preventive care (it's not just about contraception) mandate, women with insurance can finally have access to the most effective forms of contraception. This should finally reduce the 49% unintended pregnancy rate in the U.S., which is one of the highest in the developed world and hasn't improved in decades. Hopefully it will also help the maternal mortality rate, which is higher than much of the developed world and is increasing.

josevolution

How can people be against this all women should be able to have access to birth control i'm sure as hell happy being a parent of a 15yr old girl ....even if Rush thinks all women on birth control are sluts ..

hedonist

Thanks for that information, _; I wasn't aware of those statistics.

(sidenote - addressing you as _ up there just seems odd to me )

jose, I could be mistaken, but I think most folks that take issue with this mandate have a problem with the access to care being free, not that it shouldn't be there at all.

_

hedonist wrote:

(sidenote - addressing you as _ up there just seems odd to me )

You can call me Underscore if you'd like.

cincybearcat

_ wrote:

hedonist wrote:

(sidenote - addressing you as _ up there just seems odd to me )

You can call me Underscore if you'd like.

I prefer scb...wasn;t that it?

_

cincybearcat wrote:

_ wrote:

hedonist wrote:

(sidenote - addressing you as _ up there just seems odd to me )

You can call me Underscore if you'd like.

I prefer scb...wasn;t that it?

Good memory!

josevolution

hedonist wrote:

Thanks for that information, _; I wasn't aware of those statistics.

(sidenote - addressing you as _ up there just seems odd to me )

jose, I could be mistaken, but I think most folks that take issue with this mandate have a problem with the access to care being free, not that it shouldn't be there at all.

I hear you ...

catefrances

know1 wrote:

catefrances wrote:

if this was about a males access to some medicine that helped him gain and keep an erection there wouldnt be a problem... oh wait.. thats right viagra IS covered by the majority of private medical health insurers.

The key statement there is "private medical health insurers".

meaning??

catefrances

cincybearcat wrote:

catefrances wrote:

if this was about a males access to some medicine that helped him gain and keep an erection there wouldnt be a problem... oh wait.. thats right viagra IS covered by the majority of private medical health insurers.

It's not free though is it?

But I get your point and agree.

heck no its not free...but what in life is?? BUT to cover erectile dysfunction and not birth control smacks of sexual inequality... and horseshit.

markin ball

Birth control ain't free. Your insurance must pay for it. You must pay for your insurance. The law just says your insurance must give it to you without a co-pay or other similar charge/fee.