What if we could be genetically engineered?

LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
edited July 2012 in A Moving Train
Hypothetically, let's say you decide to have a child, and science gave you an option to make that child smart, nonviolent,


Genetically they would look like you and display your best traits, but any defects would be weeded out.


We'd live in a world where no one would have the urge to walk into a theater an kill people. People would be selfless and only act to make the world better for everyone.

People would decide to limit their children to prevent overpopulation. Not cheat, not kill, not rape, etc..

Basically if we could engineer everyone to get along and do what is best for the survival of the human race.


Thoughts?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    my children are smart and nonviolent. 8-)
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  • can you imagine a world where nobody had any thing that made them unique?

    Nobody had anything that the masses didn't feel comfortable with?

    Steven Hawking would be out... what parent wants a child who'll grow up to have ALS?

    No Michelangelo... no fags.

    Cher? Nope. Let's weed out the dyslexics.

    and of course, we'd want non-violent and obedient people... a bunch of slaves who do what they're told.

    I hope I die long before that happens.
  • Aero83_Aero83_ Posts: 933
    What if? pfftt..
    and I agree with the above post. I adore differences unlike some..
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  • blueandwhiteblueandwhite Posts: 662
    I don't like this idea at all. I could see a subservient class with inferior genes being engineered to work for a new ruling class. Genetic imperfections could be used to control the masses and bring about a new form of oppression. The rich would be smarter, healthier stronger and longer lived than the rest of us.

    I'm certainly glad that I won't be part of such a world.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    "WE ALL BUNDLE" :lol: it's what everybody want's..well most, they want a stop to violance,cheating,stealing,lieing, no need for wars and so on but....our human nature makes us look for the dark side and defend our reasoning for it. go figure.... :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    We would all look like Jude Law and Uma Thurman. Those of us not altered would look like Ethan Hawke.

    :ugeek:
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Hypothetically, let's say you decide to have a child, and science gave you an option to make that child smart, nonviolent,


    Genetically they would look like you and display your best traits, but any defects would be weeded out.


    We'd live in a world where no one would have the urge to walk into a theater an kill people. People would be selfless and only act to make the world better for everyone.

    People would decide to limit their children to prevent overpopulation. Not cheat, not kill, not rape, etc..

    Basically if we could engineer everyone to get along and do what is best for the survival of the human race.


    Thoughts?

    I'd be totally against it.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    ugh... im bored already.
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    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • curlycurly Posts: 704
    its evolution baby!!! :corn: :corn:
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Jason P wrote:
    We would all look like Jude Law and Uma Thurman. Those of us not altered would look like Ethan Hawke.

    :ugeek:
    Ha! I was thinking of that too.

    And this -
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I think we as a species are very naive about this topic. Technology and modern mecidine already intervene well beyond and extend the lives of humans, so how is that different? I know there is obviously some grey area with limitations, but the common cold used to kill people a thousand yrs ago, and improvements have been made to adjust this bad thing from occuring. How are vaccinations or any other medical innovation different? It is simply put, humans intervening and controlling their own life.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cher? Nope.

    are we absolutely sure she wasnt created in a lab somewhere? :corn:
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    can you imagine a world where nobody had any thing that made them unique?

    Nobody had anything that the masses didn't feel comfortable with?

    Steven Hawking would be out... what parent wants a child who'll grow up to have ALS?

    No Michelangelo... no fags.

    Cher? Nope. Let's weed out the dyslexics.

    and of course, we'd want non-violent and obedient people... a bunch of slaves who do what they're told.

    I hope I die long before that happens.
    I got the impression that OP was attempting to set up an "ideal hypothetical", though I could be mistaken. So using your examples:

    - We'd have Hawking, but he'd be able to think AND walk.

    - Michelangelo would be able to paint, invent, etc, but not be gay...hey wait I think I've been set up here. :lol: I'm kidding. I think the fear you're getting to here is "who gets to determine what genes/traits are good or bad?" I think for the purposes of the OP, we assume that "bad" is only what is very obviously "bad" as outlined in the OP, a la murder, rape, theft etc.

    - We'd have Cher (okay again I think I'm being set up here :P ), but she'd be able to sing AND read/write without effort.
  • MotoDC wrote:
    - Michelangelo would be able to paint, invent, etc, but not be gay..

    But... does being gay make one more creative? Does being gay make one more artistic?
    I think for the purposes of the OP, we assume that "bad" is only what is very obviously "bad" as outlined in the OP, a la murder, rape, theft etc.

    Ok but MANY very powerful people in the GOP say that being gay is like being an alcoholic or a kleptomaniac or a rapist... so... yeah... who gets to decide?
    - We'd have Cher (okay again I think I'm being set up here :P ), but she'd be able to sing AND read/write without effort.

    But if she could write... would she have become a singer and actress? She says she chose to sing in bars because she couldn't type or work jobs that required reading and data...
  • FiveB247x wrote:
    the common cold used to kill people a thousand yrs ago, and improvements have been made to adjust this bad thing from occurring


    That's actually not true. The Common Cold is just your body over-reacting to an otherwise harmless virus. Nobody has ever died of a cold.

    Although I know what you mean... medical advancements help people live longer... I just worry that they will be used to keep some from ever being born.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Not that it matters, but I just backspaced over a semi-diatribe...sometimes I get fired up and (the proper) words escape me. I'll leave it to when I can better articulate.

    As to Cher, I'm not a fan overall but loved her - along with Sonny and Chaz - as a kid (she was a V-A-M-P, vamp!) And in Moonstruck.

    I also have an iron candleholder in our bathroom and a huge gorgeous papier-mache sun hanging on our living room wall, courtesy of her now-defunct catalog, "Sanctuary".
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    Personally, I happen to like defective people.
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  • brianlux wrote:
    Personally, I happen to like defective people.

    it's why we get along so well.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    brianlux wrote:
    Personally, I happen to like defective people.

    it's why we get along so well.

    :D
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  • rollingsrollings unknown Posts: 7,125
    if JUST that part of genetics that could give a person the propensity to comit non-defensive acts of lethal violence actually COULD be tweaked out, given that everything else remains unaffected, I would think the removal of that part would be in the best interest of mankind.

    Other defects shouldn't be messed with.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I don't see a problem with the below honestly. We have medical advancements to avoid babies being born with awful diseases or fatal issues.. this is part of the reason we do testing during pregnancy as well as in some cases have abortion options. Our species has become so self-centered, we lose sight of the natural cycle of life, so we delude ourselves into thinking we shouldn't meddle when the reality is we already to in dramatic ways which not only have repurcussions for humans but the environment and world around us (other species included).
    FiveB247x wrote:
    the common cold used to kill people a thousand yrs ago, and improvements have been made to adjust this bad thing from occurring

    That's actually not true. The Common Cold is just your body over-reacting to an otherwise harmless virus. Nobody has ever died of a cold.

    Although I know what you mean... medical advancements help people live longer... I just worry that they will be used to keep some from ever being born.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    brianlux wrote:
    Personally, I happen to like defective people.

    :thumbup: You'd definitely like me then.



    The problem with the whole idea of this is that it promotes eugenics, which is wrong on all levels...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    genetic engineering didn't work for food - why would it work for humans?
  • riotgrlriotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    polaris_x wrote:
    genetic engineering didn't work for food - why would it work for humans?

    And some of the genetic tampering that we have done in food and other areas is still relatively new. How do we know that we wouldn't screw that up somehow and create far worse problems than already exist.

    Personally, I like defective people as well - makes life more interesting :)
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    Alright!

    DEFECTIVE HUMANS, UNITE! :D
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    brianlux wrote:
    Alright!

    DEFECTIVE HUMANS, UNITE! :D

    I'm in.
    See you in the Lounge car!

    So, as posted in another thread, 1 in 5 of us suffers from mental illness...hamm, there's about 10 of us in this thread... ;) We've got all sorts of issues. :lol:
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    brianlux wrote:
    Alright!

    DEFECTIVE HUMANS, UNITE! :D

    I'm in.
    See you in the Lounge car!

    So, as posted in another thread, 1 in 5 of us suffers from mental illness...hamm, there's about 10 of us in this thread... ;) We've got all sorts of issues. :lol:

    So true, JonnyPistachio! :lol:

    The sad thing about mental illness is that it still often caries a stigma. If the kidneys fail we are given care and sympathy. If the mind fails, we are locked up in places that are often as bad as prisons. I've known people who have been there.

    Most of us have or will have imperfections- myself included. It's not that I don't want to be the perfect me that I once was ( :roll: ... :lol: ) but if we engineer all the imperfections out of ourselves we become machines, not people. In fact, it's often our imperfections that bring us closer and give us reasons to care for each other.
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  • comebackgirlcomebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    Is it too late to make me taller? :shifty:


    Other than that, I'd vote no on the genetic engineering
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