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  • Wobbie said:
    I can't imagine leaving a game I paid that much to see when my team has two at bats left. Anything can happen.

    especially since it's the last game you'll see until april :wink:
    How many of those people will be kicking themselves if the Cubs can come back and pull this out?
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    Over-managing at its finest by Mr. Maddon.  Pull Lester, who was virtually umhittable, for Edwards who has been very inconsistent, with 2 outs and Lester having shown no problems getting out righties.  Maddon's always tinkering and his gamble lost this time. 
  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    bbiggs said:
    Over-managing at its finest by Mr. Maddon.  Pull Lester, who was virtually umhittable, for Edwards who has been very inconsistent, with 2 outs and Lester having shown no problems getting out righties.  Maddon's always tinkering and his gamble lost this time. 
    I have to agree.  These two losses are both on Maddon.  He managed to pull all the wrong strings at exactly the right time.  
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    If y’all want to get rid of Maddon, we’ll take him over at Fenway.
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  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    dankind said:
    If y’all want to get rid of Maddon, we’ll take him over at Fenway.
    I'd never advocate for getting rid of him.  Some moves are head scratchers, though.  

    Gotta have Hendricks bring it tomorrow.  And maybe have Bryant show up.
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    Yeah I'm not saying I want him gone by any means.  He's made quite a few questionable calls though and they rarely catch up to him. Tonight's call did. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,345
    That one was rough to watch. Hopefully between Edwards and Davis doing their thing, that takes some of the sting from Addison Russell and the error he made. Pretty concerned about tomorrow night.

    The rain gods were not on our side this season. Roark yesterday would have really been much nicer. 
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  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    That one was rough to watch. Hopefully between Edwards and Davis doing their thing, that takes some of the sting from Addison Russell and the error he made. Pretty concerned about tomorrow night.

    The rain gods were not on our side this season. Roark yesterday would have really been much nicer. 
    Agreed.  Rather would have seen Roark, but it is what it is.  Someone needs to hit besides just Rizzo and Zobrist.  Hopefully we can pull one out tomorrow.  
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,345
    edited October 2017
    They are going to have to act early I think. The team has been insufferable to watch against the power pitching of Strasburg and Scherzer. I mean you can literally look at the players as they step into the box and tell who is going to whiff and flail the bat around. I suspect Scherzer will be in the game by the 5th for more of the same.

    Glad they have Hendricks going tonight. Hoping the professor can make them look silly again.
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  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    They are going to have to act early I think. The team has been insufferable to watch against the power pitching of Strasburg and Scherzer. I mean you can literally look at the players as they step into the box and tell who is going to whiff and flail the bat around. I suspect Scherzer will be in the game by the 5th for more of the same.

    Glad they have Hendricks going tonight. Hoping the professor can make them look silly again.
    My issue about the whiffing is this - exactly how many times, in a 2-strike count, are they going to look stupid on the changeup?  There wasn't even any variance yesterday.  If it got to 2-2, 3-2, Strasburg refused to give in in what should have been fastball counts, and we couldn't spit on the junk outside of the zone.  Bryant looked dumb on every single K.  
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,345
    Gtilley8 said:
    They are going to have to act early I think. The team has been insufferable to watch against the power pitching of Strasburg and Scherzer. I mean you can literally look at the players as they step into the box and tell who is going to whiff and flail the bat around. I suspect Scherzer will be in the game by the 5th for more of the same.

    Glad they have Hendricks going tonight. Hoping the professor can make them look silly again.
    My issue about the whiffing is this - exactly how many times, in a 2-strike count, are they going to look stupid on the changeup?  There wasn't even any variance yesterday.  If it got to 2-2, 3-2, Strasburg refused to give in in what should have been fastball counts, and we couldn't spit on the junk outside of the zone.  Bryant looked dumb on every single K.  
    My argument to your point is below:






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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Game 2 was on Edwards, not Maddon.  He was the right guy to be on the mound, but that was just an absolutely awful pitch to Harper.

    Last night, though, it should have been apparent to pull Edwards after the Rendon walk.  He's proven to melt down more than enough recently when he gets himself into tight situations and last night was no different.

    Anyway, pitching isn't our problem.  Starters have given up one earned run in 4 games.  We can allow the bullpen to give up a couple runs, but ONLY IF WE FUCKING SCORE.  This entire series has been nothing but impatience.  No one on the entire offense can work a fucking count.  Every single game this series the Nats starter goes into the 7th inning at like 75-80 pitches.  That's just utterly ridiculous.  Way too many first pitch swings and stop chasing those fucking change-ups in the damn dirt!!  We'd probably get better results if the guys just went into the box and didn't swing.  Nats pitchers don't even have to locate and work the zone.

    I swear if these guys make Hendricks bail us out again tonight, my head might explode.  Score some fucking runs!
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    On the plus side, we've won 3 straight elimination games and 4-1 over the last 3 seasons.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ All good points. My only argument is that Edwards should not have come into the game in that situation to begin with, but such is life.

    As far as tonight, we need to fucking score. Spot on.  We've been a great team all year in 8-6 ball games, but not so much in 2-1 ball games.  Pitching trumps hitting in the postseason and that is what's hurting us.  Our starters have been lights out.  After that point is another story.  The Nats have a distinct advantage in that department, not to mention we will undoubtedly see Scherzer in some fashion tonight.

    Anyway, time to be big boys and go out there and get it done.  No excuses. Just win! 
  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    Well, we've gotten some big breaks, and capitalized on some errors.  We really need to lock this game down right now.  
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  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    You blew it! We were all not posting on purpose! Just kidding.
  • Gtilley8
    Gtilley8 Detroit Posts: 985
    bflynn1 said:
    You blew it! We were all not posting on purpose! Just kidding.
    My bad..... Lol.  After last year, I don't believe in the superstitious stuff anymore.  My wife fell asleep.  I had to say something to someone
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  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    I'm glad Russell's bat has shown up tonight. And Zobrist has been clutch in getting on base. 
  • bflynn1
    bflynn1 Posts: 1,394
    Looking like Tony LaRussa with all the pitching changes
  • My God. Let's not put the lead off man on every damn inning.