I knew that was a provocative statement when I made it. But being gay, I've been on the receiving end of MANY laws that were really just there to punish me for having sex. I know it when I see it. I spent most of my life being told how to have sex and it's ALWAYS from someone telling me I should do it like THEY want to... not like I want to. This isn't any different.
I honestly don't see it that way. I wonder why the double standard between protecting workers in different industries.
Test done every 15 days huh? What about in between? Can a performer work only if the test has been completed that day? or they can work so long as their test is within the last 15 days?
I honestly don't see it that way. I wonder why the double standard between protecting workers in different industries.
Just about every job in the entertainment industry comes with it's own dangers. Stuntmen aren't immune to being killed on the job, big stars get stalkers, gaffers are occasionally killed or injured by falling lighting, sets, rigs...
Hey, Oil Rig workers have a 1/10 chance of losing a finger.
Test done every 15 days huh? What about in between? Can a performer work only if the test has been completed that day? or they can work so long as their test is within the last 15 days?
It's within the last 15 days... some studios up to 30 days.
So yes... you're right, there isn't a guarantee of safety.
If you take a job with higher risks, you understand those risks and understand that the higher risk is one of the reasons for the higher pay.
How many thousand dollars did you get the last time you had sex?
Isn't sex for money called prostitution? I feel sorry for anyone that has to do this.
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Unless they know they are positive and they are raping people, it takes two to make the decision to bang with or without a condom.
I owe you a case of beer for that.
I'm SO sick of people (usually women... sorry....) who go out.. have unprotected sex with someone they don't know and then blame the guy who infected them.
And our sex-phobic society has allowed the For-Profit prison owners push for all sorts of laws that throw people in jail for minor things or for crazy amounts of time.
Recently a gay man had PROTECTED sex (used a condom) with another man... he was HIV+. Now... the guy didn't get HIV but the man with HIV was sentenced to 25 YEARS!!.
(btw... it might interest you to know that the Jan "Wicked Witch of the South West" Brewer laws in Arizona were pushed for by the prison owners so they could open more prisons. It was all about profit, not about Mexicans taking away the jobs in fields from the senior citizens who clutter the desert landscape of Phoenix.)
Isn't sex for money called prostitution? I feel sorry for anyone that has to do this.
Oh, everyone's a prostitute.
I'll tell you this... I used to work in an office, 9-6, Mon-Fri with two weeks off per year, paid a shitty $45k plus piddly benefits and sat in my office cubicle feeling like a worker bee.
Isn't sex for money called prostitution? I feel sorry for anyone that has to do this.
Oh, everyone's a prostitute.
I'll tell you this... I used to work in an office, 9-6, Mon-Fri with two weeks off per year, paid a shitty $45k plus piddly benefits and sat in my office cubicle feeling like a worker bee.
I'll tell you this... I used to work in an office, 9-6, Mon-Fri with two weeks off per year, paid a shitty $45k plus piddly benefits and sat in my office cubicle feeling like a worker bee.
THOSE are the people you should feel sorry for.
You dont have to feel sorry for me. Now I feel like shit though...any job openings out west there where I can keep my clothes on?
just kidding...You did kinda sum up my job though, but I dig it...and I just make sure I kick ass everyday as soon as I walk out the door. And nobody makes me wear condoms at work either.
How many thousand dollars did you get the last time you had sex?
None, but I also didn't take it in the ass and my risk of contracting a fatal disease was extremely low if not zero.
Neither did I and my risk was the same.
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Good deal. For those having unprotected sex with people that have not been tested for 15-30 days and who in that time frame have had sex with multiple people with the same testing guidelines, their risk is much higher.
What they need is a very cheap, quick test that can give you results in hours/minutes. Then all woudl be right with the porn world.
Good deal. For those having unprotected sex with people that have not been tested for 15-30 days and who in that time frame have had sex with multiple people with the same testing guidelines, their risk is much higher.
Not necessarily. Do you know that your sex partners have been tested? I know a lot of straight guys who don't use condoms in their regular hookups and don't know if the girls they've been with have been tested in the last couple of weeks
What they need is a very cheap, quick test that can give you results in hours/minutes. Then all would be right with the porn world.
Well there IS a very cheap quick test for HIV that will give you results in 20 minutes. But those aren't very accurate. And a high-ed HIV test (that adult companies use) takes a matter of minutes but costs $250 because it looks for the DNA of the virus... kind of.
Things can be (a) Good (b) Fast (c) Cheap and never more than two at a time.
(remember that I work in the gay porn industry. I've directed straight scenes but not for over a year. So I only work with studios that use condoms. I don't do bareback.)
Well there IS a very cheap quick test for HIV that will give you results in 20 minutes. But those aren't very accurate. And a high-ed HIV test (that adult companies use) takes a matter of minutes but costs $250 because it looks for the DNA of the virus... kind of.
Things can be (a) Good (b) Fast (c) Cheap and never more than two at a time.
(remember that I work in the gay porn industry. I've directed straight scenes but not for over a year. So I only work with studios that use condoms. I don't do bareback.)
Sure they can be all of those. And actually, I'm thinking that $250 is cheap enough that porn companies should be required to use it or condoms to protect their employees.
Sure they can be all of those. And actually, I'm thinking that $250 is cheap enough that porn companies should be required to use it or condoms to protect their employees.
Well, they DO use those.
Once every 15 days to 30 days.
If those odds are to much for you, then maybe adult movies isn't the career for you.
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If the pay is right, and I have an endless supply of gloves and maybe access to a decontamination room.
Just kidding...I figured the only props would be costumes, plumbers belts, construction hats, ball gags, etc...I assumed there was no need for those tools you posted since both parties come equipped with such devices naturally. :?
Ok, so we've narrowed it down, administrative it is. :P
Sure they can be all of those. And actually, I'm thinking that $250 is cheap enough that porn companies should be required to use it or condoms to protect their employees.
Well, they DO use those.
Once every 15 days to 30 days.
If those odds are to much for you, then maybe adult movies isn't the career for you.
I've just been confused why certain industries have different requirements that's all.
I mean, why does a manufacturing plant have to guard it's equipment? People know machines can be hazardous when they take the job. The know the risks. Yet the company can be fined and they are certainly held responsible should an incident occur if the guarding is not complaint.
Oh, well, I guess I'll never understand why employers have to protect their employees only in certain fields. Hell, we still allow people to smoke in places where waitstaff are exposed. Can you imagine if a manufacturing plant knowingly allowed there employees to be exposed to a known carcinogen every day????
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I honestly don't see it that way. I wonder why the double standard between protecting workers in different industries.
Test done every 15 days huh? What about in between? Can a performer work only if the test has been completed that day? or they can work so long as their test is within the last 15 days?
Just about every job in the entertainment industry comes with it's own dangers. Stuntmen aren't immune to being killed on the job, big stars get stalkers, gaffers are occasionally killed or injured by falling lighting, sets, rigs...
Hey, Oil Rig workers have a 1/10 chance of losing a finger.
It's within the last 15 days... some studios up to 30 days.
So yes... you're right, there isn't a guarantee of safety.
If you take a job with higher risks, you understand those risks and understand that the higher risk is one of the reasons for the higher pay.
How many thousand dollars did you get the last time you had sex?
I owe you a case of beer for that.
I'm SO sick of people (usually women... sorry....) who go out.. have unprotected sex with someone they don't know and then blame the guy who infected them.
And our sex-phobic society has allowed the For-Profit prison owners push for all sorts of laws that throw people in jail for minor things or for crazy amounts of time.
Recently a gay man had PROTECTED sex (used a condom) with another man... he was HIV+. Now... the guy didn't get HIV but the man with HIV was sentenced to 25 YEARS!!.
(btw... it might interest you to know that the Jan "Wicked Witch of the South West" Brewer laws in Arizona were pushed for by the prison owners so they could open more prisons. It was all about profit, not about Mexicans taking away the jobs in fields from the senior citizens who clutter the desert landscape of Phoenix.)
Oh, everyone's a prostitute.
I'll tell you this... I used to work in an office, 9-6, Mon-Fri with two weeks off per year, paid a shitty $45k plus piddly benefits and sat in my office cubicle feeling like a worker bee.
THOSE are the people you should feel sorry for.
it's worth it!
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I mean... um... :fp:
You dont have to feel sorry for me. Now I feel like shit though...any job openings out west there where I can keep my clothes on?
just kidding...You did kinda sum up my job though, but I dig it...and I just make sure I kick ass everyday as soon as I walk out the door. And nobody makes me wear condoms at work either.
None, but I also didn't take it in the ass and my risk of contracting a fatal disease was extremely low if not zero.
Neither did I and my risk was the same.
:ugeek:
Good deal. For those having unprotected sex with people that have not been tested for 15-30 days and who in that time frame have had sex with multiple people with the same testing guidelines, their risk is much higher.
What they need is a very cheap, quick test that can give you results in hours/minutes. Then all woudl be right with the porn world.
Just sounds funny.
Well we need a fluffer. Our last one died of Lock Jaw. Took the doctors 10 hours to get the smile off his face.
Not necessarily. Do you know that your sex partners have been tested? I know a lot of straight guys who don't use condoms in their regular hookups and don't know if the girls they've been with have been tested in the last couple of weeks
Well there IS a very cheap quick test for HIV that will give you results in 20 minutes. But those aren't very accurate. And a high-ed HIV test (that adult companies use) takes a matter of minutes but costs $250 because it looks for the DNA of the virus... kind of.
Things can be (a) Good (b) Fast (c) Cheap and never more than two at a time.
(remember that I work in the gay porn industry. I've directed straight scenes but not for over a year. So I only work with studios that use condoms. I don't do bareback.)
umm, yeah no.
How about administrative, editing or prop management?
(I actually do video editing)
Sure they can be all of those. And actually, I'm thinking that $250 is cheap enough that porn companies should be required to use it or condoms to protect their employees.
Well, they DO use those.
Once every 15 days to 30 days.
If those odds are to much for you, then maybe adult movies isn't the career for you.
You think you can manage these?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Just kidding...I figured the only props would be costumes, plumbers belts, construction hats, ball gags, etc...I assumed there was no need for those tools you posted since both parties come equipped with such devices naturally. :?
Ok, so we've narrowed it down, administrative it is. :P
I've just been confused why certain industries have different requirements that's all.
I mean, why does a manufacturing plant have to guard it's equipment? People know machines can be hazardous when they take the job. The know the risks. Yet the company can be fined and they are certainly held responsible should an incident occur if the guarding is not complaint.
Oh, well, I guess I'll never understand why employers have to protect their employees only in certain fields. Hell, we still allow people to smoke in places where waitstaff are exposed. Can you imagine if a manufacturing plant knowingly allowed there employees to be exposed to a known carcinogen every day????