Ross Halfin bashes PJ's Crew (once again)

100 Pacer

Dank wrote:

He is only probably the highest regarded photographer in Rock N roll. Heaven for bid he doesn't LOVE every member of PJ's crew. How dare him. He didn't say anything about the band, and I have a pretty good hunch who he is talking about. And I agree with him.........

m'eh,...

i'd rather have Lance Mercer, Charles Peterson, Danny Clinch or Kerensa Wight snapping PJ any day of the week,...

norm

Pidello wrote:

from his current diary:
September 21

Simon Price in the Independent has had a go at James Hetfield about telling the crowd at the 02 to stop taking photos and filming the band on their phones. I had a conversation with James before he went on, talking about how the vibe of the show with the "Kids" was ruined by everybody holding up phones and doing just that. Which is why he said something - it has nothing to do with the band being paranoid about the internet.

At the David Gilmore show at the Olympia in Paris the whole front section of the crowd was French wankers holding up phones filming, who I argued with while trying to shoot from the stalls after David's Nazi-style PR company gave me a whole two songs to shoot from the crowd. Still, the worst of the lot has to be Pearl Jam who seem to want to be seen as the "People's band", yet employ the biggest bunch of cunts on earth to work for them. At least U2 and The Stones have people who do it in a nicer way. So, James Hetfield, I'm with you - 'put your fucking phones down!'

http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/diary/september-2008/diary-september-2008.php

similar words here:
http://www.rosshalfin.co.uk/pearl-jam/pearl-jam01.php

enjoy!

wow does this twat think highly of himself....if you don't want to follow simple rules then join the paparazzi....since it seems that's all you're good for

PJPixie

100 Pacer wrote:

m'eh,...

i'd rather have Lance Mercer, Charles Peterson, Danny Clinch or Kerensa Wight snapping PJ any day of the week,...

WORD!

idratherbe

Ahhh... someday I hope to be so self-important.

~peace~

PissBottleMan

Kat wrote:

You are saying this mysterious someone is a cunt. Is that what you mean to say?

Dank wrote:

Don't put words in my mouth then use your communist powers to ban/silence me. Thanks.

That was quite a funny little exchange.

PBM

dunkman

PissBottleMan wrote:

That was quite a funny little exchange.

PBM

i thought that.. although now Dank is banned.

not quite sure he did anything wrong though... did he? i dunno

PissBottleMan

dunkman wrote:

not quite sure he did anything wrong though... did he? i dunno

Reminded of an exchange of an old married couple.

PBM

mdgsolo

I've had some pretty good success in my communications with the band's crew over the years. Mind you, I'm not one of these people who waits outside the hotel or bus to catch a glimpse or get them to sign my shad either. Everyone has always seemed courteous and friendly. Although I have at times wondered why some people with higher numbers get the first few rows every show I go to and I rarely have great seats (always good though) even with fairly good seniority, I am mainly just thankful to have an opportunity to get tickets at a reasonable price to see this band period! You have to remember that the night of any show is the culmination of a lot of work by the crew before we ever arrive. They are living like gypsies doing a high stress job night after night in a different environment each time. I think they deserve a bit of grace for not pouring us each a cup of tea and giving us a hug each time we interact with them, yeah?

JOEJOEJOE

Cosmo wrote:

The Pearl Jam policy regarding professional photographers with passes... as I understand it... is they get to shoot as many photos as they want for the first 3 songs. At the conclusion of the 3rd song... they must vacate the photographer's pit immediately.
This is done to let the fans in the front row have a clear, unobstructed, uninterrupted and view of the show with a minimum of distraction... while at the same time, letting the photographers with press passes get their shots for their papers, blogs, etc... A Pro with professional equipment can fire off a ton of photos during 3 songs.
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Now... photographers tend to bring a lot of shit to the gigs and have to gather it all up and clear it from the pit. I am certain that Pearl Jam's security tries to make them get their asses in gear and probably have to get a bit forceful at times with some of them. I mean, if you're in the photographer's pit... wouldn't you want to try to stay there as long as you can? Take my time packing my camera... messing with my camera bag... look for my jacket... putting on my jacket... then, the Pearl Jam guys come up and say, "Get out... NOW!" Therefore, THEY are the cunts... not me... taking my sweet time... mulling in the pit... being a distraction to the paying customers... not folowing the agreed upon rules.
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Moral: Assholiness is in the brown eye of the asshole. If you don't want people to treat you like shit... don't be an asshole.

Most bands have a 3-and-out policy for photographers.

In many cases, the photogs keep shooting until the promoter or band rep come and remind them to leave....reminds me of the umpire having to walk out to the mound to end a meeting.

pjalive21

someone need a burping?

100 Pacer

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Most bands have a 3-and-out policy for photographers.

In many cases, the photogs keep shooting until the promoter or band rep come and remind them to leave....reminds me of the umpire having to walk out to the mound to end a meeting.

and for those stubborn photogs, a nice used towel covered in Ed's sweat tossed right at their heads

facepollution

Ross Halfin is a funny guy, and not one to mince his words; and like someone else said, he will happily slag off even bands he is friends with if their people make his job difficult. At the end of the day, he's there to do a specific job - and the quality of his work is reflected in the publications which essentially advertise these bands - thus it is in everyone's interest to make his job as easy as possible.

eldarion75

It was halfins photo of Ed that graced the cover of Rolling Stone hatchet job on Ed in '96. It's my understanding that he is persona non grata ever since. Rightly so too 'cos he's a moaning self righteous little shit.

mickeyrat

Cosmo wrote:

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Moral: Assholiness is in the brown eye of the asshole. If you don't want people to treat you like shit... don't be an asshole.

Can I use this?Just might apply to me ....most days

Pidello

here comes another one:

http://www.rosshalfin.com/diary/septemb ... r-2009.php

entry from sep. 23rd.

Evacuation Rules

Kat wrote:

I know these women and they are anything but that misogynistic word he used. They are good people doing a difficult job.

I believe from other comments made in this thread that Mr. Halfin is British. The word you are offended by does not have the extremely negative connotations in England that it has here. It can be used to describe both males and females, and he appears to be speaking about all the PR people. So relax!

DewieCox

I'm sure Ross Halfin can be a primadonna photographer. If you don't know who he is you haven't looked at many pics of rock and roll band.

Sounds kinda like PJ ca be kinda difficult to photograph, too.

They're probably all kinda spoiled assholes when it comes to the business side.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Evacuation Rules wrote:

Kat wrote:

I know these women and they are anything but that misogynistic word he used. They are good people doing a difficult job.

I believe from other comments made in this thread that Mr. Halfin is British. The word you are offended by does not have the extremely negative connotations in England that it has here. It can be used to describe both males and females, and he appears to be speaking about all the PR people. So relax!

no, it's not the same exactly, but it's still a pretty negative term, any way you slice it.