They eat this shit because they think that by eating a particular part of an animal, or a whole animal, they'll imbibe it's qualities. I.e, eating a brain will make you smarter. I sometimes get into discussions with them here on this subject, and ask them obvious questions like, 'If you could eat 20 ducks heads a day then why aren't there millions of Albert Einsteins in China?' Or, 'Why not chickens heads?' They tell me that chickens are stupid. Go figure. i.e, ducks are smart??
Yeah, it's kind of warped.
You better get the fuck out of there Byrnzie, before they finally figure out that you're smart and try to eat your brains! :P
And, think about it: in Guangdong (bordering Hong Kong) they're notorious for eating anything that moves.
If your argument is correct, then cheap meat won't help these people at all, while condemning billions of animals a year to a short life of nothing but misery. As well as being ethical, a plant based diet is the most efficient and environmentally sound way to feed a larger number of people. And yes, people are obese because they eat too much, and usually too much crap.
Obviously you didn't read or comprehend my post properly, because at no point did I say obese people do not eat too much crap. I pointed out that there are complex reasons why poor people tend to eat the wrong things, leading to greater instances of obesity in the poor.
Taking away their access to cheap fresh meat is obviously only going to push them further into eating cheap processed foods, and spouting some vegetarian utopia pipe dream is not going to help the situation either. Just telling poor overweight people they should be vegetarian instead is functionally useless, and utterly impractical since cheap processed foods are still much cheaper than fresh vegetables and fruit.
I don't appreciate your insinuation that I am stupid or ignorant because I disagree with you.
Meat is already cheap. And unhealthy. It is high in calories, high in fat, and high in cholesterol, none of which are helpful to your health, especially if you are already fat. In addition, on a global scale, more resources are required to produce meat than plant foods (since space could be used to grow plants for human consumption rather than to grow crops for animals, which is comparatively inefficient), which is what I mean when I say that more people can be fed on a vegetarian diet than on an animal based diet. Vegetables and fruits are more expensive comparatively because they do not have an effective lobby (at least here in the US - I have no idea what goes on in the UK). Government subsidies should be directed toward fruits, vegetables, and healthy grains, rather than meat, dairy, and corn. This would help get people off the crap food. But there is a lot of resistance from the lobbyists and their servants in Congress.
And finally, no argument for cheap meat makes animal abuse and torture in factory farms ethical. And back to the original topic - looking down your nose at the Chinese for treating animals this way while condoning factory farming methods in the US is hypocritical
I did not insinuate you were stupid, I insinuated you had accused me of saying something I didn't say, which you just did again by claiming I condoned US Factory farming methods, when in fact all I did was note that they aren't going anywhere. So not only are you accusing me of saying things I did not say, now you are calling me a hypocrite for endorsing farming methods I did not endorse. In fact, my inital post clearly stated I abhore mass farming methods, and totally oppose animal cruelty. At no point did I say I personally condone anything.
Your point about redirecting subsidies towards making fruit and veg cheaper was a good one, obviously I support whatever can be done to bring down these prices as that is essential to solving the obesity problem, although there's a place for fresh meat in a healthy diet too. If only you'd started with something like that instead of throwing out platitudes like "maybe fat people should eat less!", I might have taken you more seriously.
I did not insinuate you were stupid, I insinuated you had accused me of saying something I didn't say, which you just did again by claiming I condoned US Factory farming methods, when in fact all I did was note that they aren't going anywhere. So not only are you accusing me of saying things I did not say, now you are calling me a hypocrite for endorsing farming methods I did not endorse. In fact, my inital post clearly stated I abhore mass farming methods, and totally oppose animal cruelty. At no point did I say I personally condone anything.
Your point about redirecting subsidies towards making fruit and veg cheaper was a good one, obviously I support whatever can be done to bring down these prices as that is essential to solving the obesity problem, although there's a place for fresh meat in a healthy diet too. If only you'd started with something like that instead of throwing out platitudes like "maybe fat people should eat less!", I might have taken you more seriously.
I have no desire to further discuss this topic with you, because I don't care to talk with someone who insults me and condescends to me, but I will say that you did seem to condone factory farming by implying that this is the only way to ensure "cheap meat." I will also reassert that people need to eat less, at least in the US, since over half the population is overweight . Especially obese people.
I tend to agree that the opposition to dog meat is just cultural, I can't see any reason why dogs should be treated differently to other animals, it's not like they are endangered, or hard to breed.
Cruelty to animals is wrong though, livestock should never be beaten or injured, and many mass farming techniques we have developed are deplorable. Consumers are used to cheap meat now though, poor families rely on it in fact, and outlawing some of these practices would push meat prices up sharply, so they will remain.
If this does not imply that mass farming techniques are inevitable to supply cheap meat, perhaps I do have poor reading comprehension.
You also have a very poor vocabulary, because noting that something is inevitable is not at all the same thing as condoning it.
If I say it is inevitable that Assad will continue to bomb his own cities in Syria, does that mean I am condoning it? No of course it doesn't. But by all means, continue to invent things you think I have said and then argue against them.
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And, think about it: in Guangdong (bordering Hong Kong) they're notorious for eating anything that moves.
I bet you anything Byrnzie moves.
I don't appreciate your insinuation that I am stupid or ignorant because I disagree with you.
Meat is already cheap. And unhealthy. It is high in calories, high in fat, and high in cholesterol, none of which are helpful to your health, especially if you are already fat. In addition, on a global scale, more resources are required to produce meat than plant foods (since space could be used to grow plants for human consumption rather than to grow crops for animals, which is comparatively inefficient), which is what I mean when I say that more people can be fed on a vegetarian diet than on an animal based diet. Vegetables and fruits are more expensive comparatively because they do not have an effective lobby (at least here in the US - I have no idea what goes on in the UK). Government subsidies should be directed toward fruits, vegetables, and healthy grains, rather than meat, dairy, and corn. This would help get people off the crap food. But there is a lot of resistance from the lobbyists and their servants in Congress.
And finally, no argument for cheap meat makes animal abuse and torture in factory farms ethical. And back to the original topic - looking down your nose at the Chinese for treating animals this way while condoning factory farming methods in the US is hypocritical
Your point about redirecting subsidies towards making fruit and veg cheaper was a good one, obviously I support whatever can be done to bring down these prices as that is essential to solving the obesity problem, although there's a place for fresh meat in a healthy diet too. If only you'd started with something like that instead of throwing out platitudes like "maybe fat people should eat less!", I might have taken you more seriously.
I have no desire to further discuss this topic with you, because I don't care to talk with someone who insults me and condescends to me, but I will say that you did seem to condone factory farming by implying that this is the only way to ensure "cheap meat." I will also reassert that people need to eat less, at least in the US, since over half the population is overweight . Especially obese people.
If this does not imply that mass farming techniques are inevitable to supply cheap meat, perhaps I do have poor reading comprehension.
If I say it is inevitable that Assad will continue to bomb his own cities in Syria, does that mean I am condoning it? No of course it doesn't. But by all means, continue to invent things you think I have said and then argue against them.