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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    catefrances wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    wolfamongwolves wrote:
    ;)
    What's the point of faith when you have facts and reason?

    Answer: Having faith in facts and reason!


    facts and reason dont require faith.

    The ever bright and clear thinking, catefrances!

    (P.S., but thank you Paul, anyway ;) )
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    catefrances wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    where did cows come from? thats what im curious about. i mean how and where did they live before man got the bright idea to domesticate them?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs

    thanx for that. makes sense they were just roaming wild... an di guess i knew that. tis just i had this vision of modern cow breeds just roaming around in their pods. aurochs look a little different to what was in my head(as you can imagine)... but not for all breeds. i did read years ago that cows share a common ancestor with dolphins.
    All mammals would have a common ancestor, eh :lol::lol: , but looking at a mammalian phylogenetic tree shows that there is abundant merit in your statement about a near common ancestry between bovines or ruminants and dolphins/whales. The tree I looked at, however, does show that hippos and dolphins/whales are actually more closely related.

    http://genomewiki.ucsc.edu/index.php/Ph ... netic_tree
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    tybird wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    thanx for that. makes sense they were just roaming wild... an di guess i knew that. tis just i had this vision of modern cow breeds just roaming around in their pods. aurochs look a little different to what was in my head(as you can imagine)... but not for all breeds. i did read years ago that cows share a common ancestor with dolphins.


    All mammals would have a common ancestor, eh     :lol::lol: , but looking at a mammalian phylogenetic tree shows that there is abundant merit in your statement about a near common ancestry between bovines or ruminants and dolphins/whales. The tree I looked at, however, does show that hippos and dolphins/whales are actually more closely related.

    http://genomewiki.ucsc.edu/index.php/Ph ... netic_tree


    i dont think so... unless youre counting that we are all made of stars. ;)8-)
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    catefrances wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    thanx for that. makes sense they were just roaming wild... an di guess i knew that. tis just i had this vision of modern cow breeds just roaming around in their pods. aurochs look a little different to what was in my head(as you can imagine)... but not for all breeds. i did read years ago that cows share a common ancestor with dolphins.


    All mammals would have a common ancestor, eh     :lol::lol: , but looking at a mammalian phylogenetic tree shows that there is abundant merit in your statement about a near common ancestry between bovines or ruminants and dolphins/whales. The tree I looked at, however, does show that hippos and dolphins/whales are actually more closely related.

    http://genomewiki.ucsc.edu/index.php/Ph ... netic_tree


    i dont think so... unless youre counting that we are all made of stars. ;)8-)
    Crosby, Stills and Nash told me that we are indeed star dust. :P
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    tybird wrote:
    Crosby, Stills and Nash told me that we are indeed star dust. :P

    Joni Mitchell originally... But, no need to be picky... :shifty: :-P
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Crosby, Stills and Nash told me that we are indeed star dust. :P

    Joni Mitchell originally... But, no need to be picky... :shifty: :-P
    I heard C,S & N's version first... 8-) :geek: :ugeek: :P
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    tybird wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    Crosby, Stills and Nash told me that we are indeed star dust. :P

    Joni Mitchell originally... But, no need to be picky... :shifty: :-P
    I heard C,S & N's version first... 8-) :geek: :ugeek: :P


    and im referencing MOBY so..... :P :lol::lol::lol:
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    real, here's the proof
    https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience/videos/1209920062362336/

    (sorry couldn't embed the video)
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    eeriepadave said:

    real, here's the proof
    https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience/videos/1209920062362336/

    :rofl:


  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    This is still funny.
    Come on AMT
    Laugh a little.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    eeriepadave said:

    real, here's the proof
    https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience/videos/1209920062362336/

    (sorry couldn't embed the video)

    THAT was amazing!!
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    Without looking (no cheating!) I can't believe I started this thread. I don't remember one single thing about it. :lol:
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,440
    edited September 2015
    I know this is an old ass thread but let me get this straight... They're using something that hasn't been proven to exist to prove the existence of something else that hasn't been proven to exist. Alrighty then.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    HesCalledDyer said:

    I know this is an old ass thread but let me get this straight... They're using something that hasn't been proven to exist to prove the existence of something else that hasn't been proven to exist. Alrighty then.

    Come on, have faith. It's easy.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    brianlux said:

    Without looking (no cheating!) I can't believe I started this thread. I don't remember one single thing about it. :lol:

    Carly was right. Stuff now a days is much stronger than what Jeb had.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    callen said:

    brianlux said:

    Without looking (no cheating!) I can't believe I started this thread. I don't remember one single thing about it. :lol:

    Carly was right. Stuff now a days is much stronger than what Jeb had.
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Oooh, just stare at those ^^^ for a while!
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,440
    callen said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    I know this is an old ass thread but let me get this straight... They're using something that hasn't been proven to exist to prove the existence of something else that hasn't been proven to exist. Alrighty then.

    Come on, have faith. It's easy.
    I have faith in many things.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    new photo
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/711291/Loch-Ness-Monster-found-at-last-new-photo
    image
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    Although the text quoted seems to be pretty dumb for a textbook, the title is misleading. I couldn't gather that Nessie was used to debunk evolution from that. All it said was that Nessie could be a dinosaur, and in a separate quote stated that the book or school does not cover evolution. I couldn't make the jump to "Loch Ness Monster Used to Debunk Evolution."
    The fact it had thirty-some students enrolled in the school at the time also tells you a little about the education of that school.
    That being said I don't think its fair to make the claim that Christian schools use Loch Ness Monster as proof evolution is false.
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