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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    there are things that if i had to live without, my existence would be very difficult to deal with. i could not live without music and i cuold not live without books. do i consider them a necessity like i consider food water and shelter necessary??? no, but they are extremely important to my continued mental well being. without them id be a difficult person to be around.

    I don't think books and music are directly necessities for anyone's physical well being but for many of us they are essential to the well being of our souls and in that indirectly necessary to our existence. A number of years ago I was hospitalized for a couple of days without a guitar or music to listen to so I spent some of the time practicing a piece I was learning an a bed rail as if it were a fret board. I needed music!

    And not just any old music or books- oh, I had this dream a few weeks ago that I was stuck some place where the only books available anywhere were bargain table mysteries and romance novels. Shudder!

    Back to "where we are headed"- here's James Howard Kunstler's review of this year's annual Aspen Environment Forum. Not exactly encouraging and mostly void of JHK's typical humor.

    http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/06/rocky- ... -high.html
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Here's a question: Does anyone think they could live in a commune or tribe to alleviate their weight and footprint on the earth? Just something to think about I guess, that comes out of the book. A radically different way of living to get away from materials and really sharing with others rather than independently?

    Jeanwah, I honestly think if I were 10 to 30 years younger I would consider it. If I were younger I would go with Plan A:


    A) Look for ways to buy arable land and learn how to live off it. I would learn to shoe and care for horses, collect hand tools, purchase solar panels, buy or build a stationary bicycle generator, build a cistern, learn more about permaculture, biodynmaic and organic gardening and become a seed saver.

    And then there's Plan B:

    B) Find or help create a walkable community to live in where work, home and play generally take place in the same area. Ideally the buildings would be as energy efficient as possible and as well as machines and devices that would also be shared (for example- one mower properly maintained would suffice for a neighborhood rather than having one in every garage.) As for sharing tools and such, I'm told Fijians live this way- everything is pretty much shared and communal. Also, there would have to be a park or natural areas near enough to bicycle to for a regular nature fix.

    Plan B I might be able to do! :D
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Here's a question: Does anyone think they could live in a commune or tribe to alleviate their weight and footprint on the earth? Just something to think about I guess, that comes out of the book. A radically different way of living to get away from materials and really sharing with others rather than independently?

    my footprint is already quite small....... if i could tolerate other people i think i could... but id need a lot of alone time.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    brianlux wrote:
    there are things that if i had to live without, my existence would be very difficult to deal with. i could not live without music and i cuold not live without books. do i consider them a necessity like i consider food water and shelter necessary??? no, but they are extremely important to my continued mental well being. without them id be a difficult person to be around.

    I don't think books and music are directly necessities for anyone's physical well being but for many of us they are essential to the well being of our souls and in that indirectly necessary to our existence. A number of years ago I was hospitalized for a couple of days without a guitar or music to listen to so I spent some of the time practicing a piece I was learning an a bed rail as if it were a fret board. I needed music!

    And not just any old music or books- oh, I had this dream a few weeks ago that I was stuck some place where the only books available anywhere were bargain table mysteries and romance novels. Shudder!

    Back to "where we are headed"- here's James Howard Kunstler's review of this year's annual Aspen Environment Forum. Not exactly encouraging and mostly void of JHK's typical humor.

    http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/06/rocky- ... -high.html

    oh im totally speaking about mental well being and the wellness of the soul. 8-)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
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