Israel rounding up African migrants, plans expulsion...

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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so just how are 4500 migrants a threat to the country's Jewish character??
this is just further evidence that the zionist regime in power wants a jewish only state and will do whatever it takes to gain it and hold on to it. i do find it comforting that this has sparked a debate among the israeli people though, and i agree with the people who believe that israel was founded as a refuge for holocaust survivors and that they should be able to continue to be a refuge for people who need the help. i understand that this is not always possible, and i see the other side, but i would hope that a happy medium could be found rather than deporting all of them...

Israel begins rounding up African migrants, plans to begin expulsion

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-begins-rou ... 42125.html

JERUSALEM - Israeli authorities detained dozens of African migrants in predawn raids early Monday, in the first major step toward what leaders say will be deportation of 4,500 people who have entered the country illegally.

The arrests were the harshest move yet against migrants, reflecting growing concern about the effect on Israel of tens of thousands of Africans who have sneaked into the country across the porous Egyptian border in recent years.

Israeli leaders have grown increasingly alarmed by the influx, calling it a burden and threat to the country's Jewish character.

Interior Ministry spokeswoman Sabine Hadad said 55 people, including 45 from South Sudan, were rounded up in Monday's raids, which took place in several towns across the country. More raids were planned in the coming days, she said.

In the Red Sea tourist town of Eilat, Channel 10 TV showed images of migrants quietly piling suitcases and belonging in the back of a police truck before being driven away.

The crackdown came in the wake of a landmark court decision last week that cleared the way for the expulsion of 4,500 migrants. The order applies only to people who come from nations that have friendly relations with Israel, mostly from the newly established state of South Sudan.

These people, however, represent only a small percentage of the estimated 60,000 Africans now in Israel. Some claim asylum, while others are simply looking for work in a relatively prosperous country.

Because many are from Sudan, an enemy of Israel, and Eritrea, a country with a flawed human rights record, the line between refugees and economic migrants is blurred. Therefore, Israel has quietly allowed most migrants from those two countries to stay without processing their asylum applications.

The continued arrival of the Africans, and the legal uncertainty, have spurred action. Israel is racing to build a fence along its Egyptian border to halt the influx, and it has begun work on a huge detention centre in its southern desert. The government has begun imposing penalties on businesses that employ unauthorized immigrants, and this week, it announced that in addition to the detention centre, it plans to build a tent city to hold 20,000 new arrivals.

Interior Minister Eli Yishai, who oversees immigration policy, told Army Radio that the first group of South Sudanese, about 100 people, will be sent home next week.

"We, the Jewish people, are sensitive to every refugee. But refugees only," he said. "We cannot allow ourselves to flood the country with infiltrators and migrants."

The wave of migration has set off a heated debate in Israel. Many here believe that Israel, founded as a refuge for survivors of the Nazi Holocaust during World War II, has a special responsibility to help those in need.

Others say Israel is under threat. A series of rapes and other crimes blamed on migrants has fueled an angry backlash among Israelis.

The government has offered cash incentives to those who leave voluntarily and says others will be expelled by force.

"It's clear to everyone that we either return everybody home or give up on the Zionist dream. There is no other option," Yishai said, urging illegal migrants to turn themselves in and take the incentives to go home.

Many of the migrants have concentrated in impoverished neighbourhoods of south Tel Aviv — an area with so many migrants that Israelis have dubbed it "little Africa." After several years in the country, many of the migrants have learned Hebrew, found jobs and are sending their children to Israeli schools.

A South Sudanese woman who identified herself as Victoria, speaking Hebrew, told Israel TV that she would respect the order.

"We want to go back now. We don't want any trouble," she said.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • First they came for the Arabs, then for the Africans and then for...

    Harder to understand is the feelings aganst African jews, a homeland for all jews, unless they are white? Zionism is always racism:

    http://www.economist.com/node/21556279? ... ar/keepout
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    First they came for the Arabs, then for the Africans and then for...

    Harder to understand is the feelings aganst African jews, a homeland for all jews, unless they are white? Zionism is always racism:

    http://www.economist.com/node/21556279? ... ar/keepout
    it doesn't make any sense. why would they discriminate against africans that have converted?

    this is beyond frustrating.

    who do they think they are? blanket deportations??? jeez...they are starting to sound like arizona, or new york with their new stop and frisk laws...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • who do they think they are? blanket deportations??? jeez...they are starting to sound like arizona, or new york with their new stop and frisk laws...

    Zinn nailed it:

    [On israel] "What they did was join the nationalistic frenzy, they became privy to all of the evils that nationalism creates and became very much like the United States—very aggressive, violent and bigoted."

    I just read about the stop and frisk, and it made me want to check the calendar, is it really 2012?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    who do they think they are? blanket deportations??? jeez...they are starting to sound like arizona, or new york with their new stop and frisk laws...

    Zinn nailed it:

    [On israel] "What they did was join the nationalistic frenzy, they became privy to all of the evils that nationalism creates and became very much like the United States—very aggressive, violent and bigoted."

    I just read about the stop and frisk, and it made me want to check the calendar, is it really 2012?
    zinn did nail it there. there is no disputing any of what he said there.

    and as far as stop and fisk goes, yes this is 2012....land of the free, right???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • I used to enjoy the people on here who would compare Germany to Israel and how the Jewish people would flock to the board to say that there are no comparisons. Well now you seem to be only one adjusted water tank for a shower away from completing the cycle!

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08


  • zinn did nail it there. there is no disputing any of what he said there.

    and as far as stop and fisk goes, yes this is 2012....land of the free, right???

    free and civlilized :?

    I have been reading quite a few articles on the expulsion in israel, and it seems they justify their actions because African immigration is a "threat." I think that is a tactic that will be forever used by israel, that even when committing the most racist or violent actions, they claim to be the victim. sick.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303

    zinn did nail it there. there is no disputing any of what he said there.

    and as far as stop and fisk goes, yes this is 2012....land of the free, right???

    free and civlilized :?

    I have been reading quite a few articles on the expulsion in israel, and it seems they justify their actions because African immigration is a "threat." I think that is a tactic that will be forever used by israel, that even when committing the most racist or violent actions, they claim to be the victim. sick.
    and like i asked before. how can a few thousand immigrants, most of which are converted jews, threaten the jewish identity of israel??? that is like me saying freeing slaves is going the threaten the christianinty of america, when most freed slaves were fucking christian... :? :?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • and like i asked before. how can a few thousand immigrants, most of which are converted jews, threaten the jewish identity of israel??? that is like me saying freeing slaves is going the threaten the christianinty of america, when most freed slaves were fucking christian... :? :?

    Right. Right. Just a blanket excuse for racism. I just read a part of the weekly ocha report and it states that 200 olive trees were destroyed this week. Are they a threat, too? :(

    But I think these recent events about the deportations may have made the decision easier for Alice Walker to refuse The Color Purple to be published by an israeli publisher. She ended her letter to the publisher "In faith that a just future can be fashioned from small acts." Go Alice.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    ...Interior Minister Eli Yishai, who oversees immigration policy, told Army Radio that the first group of South Sudanese, about 100 people, will be sent home next week.

    "We, the Jewish people, are sensitive to every refugee. But refugees only," he said. "We cannot allow ourselves to flood the country with infiltrators and migrants."
    ...

    unless of course theyre jewish people who have decided to exercise their right of return even though theyve never before lived in israel.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    and like i asked before. how can a few thousand immigrants, most of which are converted jews, threaten the jewish identity of israel??? that is like me saying freeing slaves is going the threaten the christianinty of america, when most freed slaves were fucking christian... :? :?

    Right. Right. Just a blanket excuse for racism. I just read a part of the weekly ocha report and it states that 200 olive trees were destroyed this week. Are they a threat, too? :(

    But I think these recent events about the deportations may have made the decision easier for Alice Walker to refuse The Color Purple to be published by an israeli publisher. She ended her letter to the publisher "In faith that a just future can be fashioned from small acts." Go Alice.
    over 1400 olive trees were destroyed in late april and early may too. what a shame. how can that even be defended? it is obvious what is going on. they are pushing palestinians AND migrants off of that land.

    and yes, go alice. i do not think her actions are going to have any sort of effect. for one, she is not allowing an israeli publisher to publish the book. how long until zionists start calling that a racist decision?? it has probably already happened. the problem is, that when one artist boycotts playing in israel, there are 10 more who would play there in their stead. i guess sometimes money trumps principle....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ...Interior Minister Eli Yishai, who oversees immigration policy, told Army Radio that the first group of South Sudanese, about 100 people, will be sent home next week.

    "We, the Jewish people, are sensitive to every refugee. But refugees only," he said. "We cannot allow ourselves to flood the country with infiltrators and migrants."
    ...

    unless of course theyre jewish people who have decided to exercise their right of return even though theyve never before lived in israel.
    ouch... good point...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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