Obama starting to sound like Bush ?

Godfather.

well ....it is election time right...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05 ... kill-list/

Godfather.

peacefrompaul

"[He] will do what is necessary to protect Americans from harm." Including killing civilians with drone strikes in other countries.


Swell

mikepegg44

peacefrompaul wrote:

"[He] will do what is necessary to protect Americans from harm." Including killing civilians with drone strikes in other countries.


Swell

he does it nicer though

peacefrompaul

mikepegg44 wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

"[He] will do what is necessary to protect Americans from harm." Including killing civilians with drone strikes in other countries.


Swell

he does it nicer though

Certainly, he does it with drones instead of soldiers

Godfather.

mikepegg44 wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

"[He] will do what is necessary to protect Americans from harm." Including killing civilians with drone strikes in other countries.


Swell

he does it nicer though

but...but...I thought he was going to get us out of this war.

Godfather.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

well ....it is election time right...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05 ... kill-list/

Godfather.

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I'm confused, here.
If he's more like Bush... then, does that mean you are going to vote for him???

Jeanwah

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

well ....it is election time right...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05 ... kill-list/

Godfather.

...
I'm confused, here.
If he's more like Bush... then, does that mean you are going to vote for him???

pandora

mikepegg44 wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

"[He] will do what is necessary to protect Americans from harm." Including killing civilians with drone strikes in other countries.


Swell

he does it nicer though

and they both...

I can picture as kindergarteners

brianlux

I predict Obama will start to sound a lot like Bush around the same time I learn to sing and play guitar as well as Ed, play guitar as well as Mike and Stone, bass as well as Jeff, drums as well as Matt and keyboards as well as Boom.

Sorry, Godfather, but it seems to me the similarities are rather limited.

Godfather.

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

well ....it is election time right...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05 ... kill-list/

Godfather.

...
I'm confused, here.
If he's more like Bush... then, does that mean you are going to vote for him???

yeah sure.........NOT !

Godfather.

EdsonNascimento

mikepegg44 wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

"[He] will do what is necessary to protect Americans from harm." Including killing civilians with drone strikes in other countries.


Swell

he does it nicer though

Yes - an EVEN kinder, gentler machine gun hand.....

But it's 2,000 points of light. A thousand was weak sauce.


I think Neil Young is doing an update to his song as we speak... Either that or keeping his trap shut about stuff he should be keeping his trap shut about. One or the other.

EdsonNascimento

Jeanwah wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

well ....it is election time right...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05 ... kill-list/

Godfather.

...
I'm confused, here.
If he's more like Bush... then, does that mean you are going to vote for him???

Yeah. Either that, or it's basically Obama saying Bush was right, so we don't really need Obama f'ng up the economy more so we can "be at peace." So, yuck it up.

How's the hope and change? You feelin' it? Oh, yeah - it's Gerald Ford's fault. I forgot.

Cosmo

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

...
I'm confused, here.
If he's more like Bush... then, does that mean you are going to vote for him???

Yeah. Either that, or it's basically Obama saying Bush was right, so we don't really need Obama f'ng up the economy more so we can "be at peace." So, yuck it up.

How's the hope and change? You feelin' it? Oh, yeah - it's Gerald Ford's fault. I forgot.

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This is another thing that confuses me...
Does this mean that the Hope and Change that you didn't want to see happen... didn't happen?
So, does that mean that the same, business as usual that you wanted to continue... continues?
Doesn't that mean that President Obama is doing the same things as President Bush was doing?
Doesn't that mean... you support President Obama????

EdsonNascimento

Cosmo wrote:

...
This is another thing that confuses me...
Does this mean that the Hope and Change that you didn't want to see happen... didn't happen?
So, does that mean that the same, business as usual that you wanted to continue... continues?
Doesn't that mean that President Obama is doing the same things as President Bush was doing?
Doesn't that mean... you support President Obama????

Ummm.. Or he changed some things and made them worse. I can't believe the simple translations folks made. Yes, we were in a recession when Bush left. Nobody has argued that. It didn't need to be as deep or as long as Obama has made it. So, that change (for the worse) is terrible.

As for foreign policy - he's basically followed Bush's which is a tacit approval. You can rationlize all you want that we couldn't pull out faster, we couldn't close Quantanomo, or whatever else. But, you elected him on not doing those things. So, those changes, while we could see them unwise was what you elected him based on. And that he didn't do (perhaps wisely, or perhaps b/c the realities of the world set in when you are actually sitting in the seat).

But, ultimately - it's the economy, stupid. And that's where he has done things that have destroyed things worse than necessary.

So, no. He didn't do what you elected him for, and what he did effect went down the crapper. Even if I supported him I would not be voting for him again. I know what he did doesn't work. Let's get someone (anyone) new in. The only other time it took more than 4 years to pull out of a recession was FDR. And even then, we only pulled out b/c of the war and not b/c of anything he did (notice the economic parallel? Not the war part - the cause of deeper recessions part - give a man a fish....).

Go Beavers

[quote="EdsonNascimento"
Ummm.. Or he changed some things and made them worse. I can't believe the simple translations folks made. Yes, we were in a recession when Bush left. Nobody has argued that. It didn't need to be as deep or as long as Obama has made it. So, that change (for the worse) is terrible.

As for foreign policy - he's basically followed Bush's which is a tacit approval. You can rationlize all you want that we couldn't pull out faster, we couldn't close Quantanomo, or whatever else. But, you elected him on not doing those things. So, those changes, while we could see them unwise was what you elected him based on. And that he didn't do (perhaps wisely, or perhaps b/c the realities of the world set in when you are actually sitting in the seat).

But, ultimately - it's the economy, stupid. And that's where he has done things that have destroyed things worse than necessary.

So, no. He didn't do what you elected him for, and what he did effect went down the crapper. Even if I supported him I would not be voting for him again. I know what he did doesn't work. Let's get someone (anyone) new in. The only other time it took more than 4 years to pull out of a recession was FDR. And even then, we only pulled out b/c of the war and not b/c of anything he did (notice the economic parallel? Not the war part - the cause of deeper recessions part - give a man a fish....).[/quote]

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

EdsonNascimento

Go Beavers wrote:

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

Let's start with extending unemployment to a gazillion weeks. The proof of how this DOESN'T work is as different as Dinkins and Giuliani. Give a man a fish....

EdsonNascimento

Go Beavers wrote:

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

And his biggest impending disaster is hopefully about to be struck down by its own Unconstitutionality....

And, again - the economy is its own proof. Whether he's done something or not is irrelevant. Let's take your supposition - he's done nothing - or, he's done something - 4 years - no recovery. Why would you want to continue that? I guess that's my question back to you.

I know, it's Theodore Roosevelt's fault..... Damn Union destroyer!!!!!

Go Beavers

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

Let's start with extending unemployment to a gazillion weeks. The proof of how this DOESN'T work is as different as Dinkins and Giuliani. Give a man a fish....

Feel free to clarify.

Go Beavers

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

And his biggest impending disaster is hopefully about to be struck down by its own Unconstitutionality....

And, again - the economy is its own proof. Whether he's done something or not is irrelevant. Let's take your supposition - he's done nothing - or, he's done something - 4 years - no recovery. Why would you want to continue that? I guess that's my question back to you.

I know, it's Theodore Roosevelt's fault..... Damn Union destroyer!!!!!

Said the guy who works in the insurance biz!

The evidence doesn't say 'no recovery', it says slow recovery.

EdsonNascimento

Go Beavers wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

And his biggest impending disaster is hopefully about to be struck down by its own Unconstitutionality....

And, again - the economy is its own proof. Whether he's done something or not is irrelevant. Let's take your supposition - he's done nothing - or, he's done something - 4 years - no recovery. Why would you want to continue that? I guess that's my question back to you.

I know, it's Theodore Roosevelt's fault..... Damn Union destroyer!!!!!

Said the guy who works in the insurance biz!

The evidence doesn't say 'no recovery', it says slow recovery.

We agree - 4 years is slow.....

EdsonNascimento

Go Beavers wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

You seem pretty certain that Obama has done things that made the economy worse than necessary. What are those things that he did, and what should he have done differently? With you certainty, there must be some evidence to support your position.

And his biggest impending disaster is hopefully about to be struck down by its own Unconstitutionality....

And, again - the economy is its own proof. Whether he's done something or not is irrelevant. Let's take your supposition - he's done nothing - or, he's done something - 4 years - no recovery. Why would you want to continue that? I guess that's my question back to you.

I know, it's Theodore Roosevelt's fault..... Damn Union destroyer!!!!!

Said the guy who works in the insurance biz!

The evidence doesn't say 'no recovery', it says slow recovery.

Huh? What does where I work have to do with this? If that's the case, I should love the health care bill he passed. It will be a complete boon for my industry. Bring it on!!!! But, it won't be good for the country (or health care costs). That's the point. The liberals/Dems are the real selfish ones. It's so funny to watch this play out on a public forum. I care about what's right of this country. Because, if its good for the economy at large, it will be good for me (though, to be quite honest, I personally do well either way. I just prefer EVERYONE get a piece rather than the myopic views the liberals take - even though they think they aren't). Taking from one person to give to another does not work except for the truly destitute. Especially since it takes money out of the economy where it can reproduce itself.