Palm Muting?

LukinFan
LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
edited May 2012 in Musicians and Gearheads
So what's the secret behind this? Why can't I get it? Either it's too muted or sounds like crap when I do it. Please help!
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  • ldatspj
    ldatspj Posts: 91
    Best way is to practice it switching between open chords and finding the right balance !! Not too hard not too soft!!! Like driving a standard car if u drive one!! And practice practice
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    ldatspj wrote:
    Best way is to practice it switching between open chords and finding the right balance !! Not too hard not too soft!!! Like driving a standard car if u drive one!! And practice practice
    Thank you - yeah, for some reason, I can't get that perfect in-between sound. I'll keep practicing!
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • LukinFan wrote:
    ldatspj wrote:
    Best way is to practice it switching between open chords and finding the right balance !! Not too hard not too soft!!! Like driving a standard car if u drive one!! And practice practice
    Thank you - yeah, for some reason, I can't get that perfect in-between sound. I'll keep practicing!

    work on RITFW,
    thats a REAL good one for palm muting.
    you can pretty much PM the entire verse through the whole song and make it sound pree-cool.
    try PMing the e chord, but then letting up a bit on the mute for the D and C.

    or whatevs.

    yah. practice.
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  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    LukinFan wrote:
    ldatspj wrote:
    Best way is to practice it switching between open chords and finding the right balance !! Not too hard not too soft!!! Like driving a standard car if u drive one!! And practice practice
    Thank you - yeah, for some reason, I can't get that perfect in-between sound. I'll keep practicing!

    work on RITFW,
    thats a REAL good one for palm muting.
    you can pretty much PM the entire verse through the whole song and make it sound pree-cool.
    try PMing the e chord, but then letting up a bit on the mute for the D and C.

    or whatevs.

    yah. practice.
    Thanks man, I was working on Wishlist. Tried it in the past and it beyond frustrated me. Been working on it some more lately and it sounds a little better, just not great.
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    just keep at it, Roger! 8-)
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,202
    watch james hetfield. he has one of the greatest right hands in music. watching him in old live footage was how i figured it out because i could not be bothered with paying for lessons when i was a broke ass college kid.

    aside from that, just practice and keep at it.. you will have that "ah- HA!!" moment soon enough.
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  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    Thanks guys. I really appreciate all of the advice.

    I was playing around with it last night and if I rest the side of my hand up against the saddle, it sounds pretty decent at times. Is this too far back to put my hand?
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,202
    LukinFan wrote:
    Thanks guys. I really appreciate all of the advice.

    I was playing around with it last night and if I rest the side of my hand up against the saddle, it sounds pretty decent at times. Is this too far back to put my hand?
    no not too far back. i put mine just in front of the saddle. just be sure that the meaty part of the pinky side of your hand is what is doing the muting.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    LukinFan wrote:
    Thanks guys. I really appreciate all of the advice.

    I was playing around with it last night and if I rest the side of my hand up against the saddle, it sounds pretty decent at times. Is this too far back to put my hand?
    no not too far back. i put mine just in front of the saddle. just be sure that the meaty part of the pinky side of your hand is what is doing the muting.
    cool - thank you
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    Is palm muting where you shut the strings up?

    what the @%#@#*% is a saddle?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,202
    here is as basic as it gets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeIzB1KiJw0
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    rollings wrote:
    Is palm muting where you shut the strings up?

    what the @%#@#*% is a saddle?
    the verses in Wishlist is palm muting

    saddle:

    http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en ... =129&ty=69
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    here is as basic as it gets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeIzB1KiJw0
    sweet! thank you!
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    never knew it was called "palm muting".
    or that it was a technique to "practice" or anything.

    In order to achieve that sound, I would think its somewhat intrinsic that your hand "knows" it has to do something in order to stop the ringing vibration and sound of the strings, and/or to get that
    choppy staccato effect. No?
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    rollings wrote:
    never knew it was called "palm muting".
    or that it was a technique to "practice" or anything.

    In order to achieve that sound, I would think its somewhat intrinsic that your hand "knows" it has to do something in order to stop the ringing vibration and sound of the strings, and/or to get that
    choppy staccato effect. No?
    as far as I know, yeah
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    LukinFan wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    never knew it was called "palm muting".
    or that it was a technique to "practice" or anything.

    In order to achieve that sound, I would think its somewhat intrinsic that your hand "knows" it has to do something in order to stop the ringing vibration and sound of the strings, and/or to get that
    choppy staccato effect. No?
    as far as I know, yeah

    I was playing today and noticed for the first time how much muting I do with the left hand.

    am I cheating?

    does it matter?
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    rollings wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    never knew it was called "palm muting".
    or that it was a technique to "practice" or anything.

    In order to achieve that sound, I would think its somewhat intrinsic that your hand "knows" it has to do something in order to stop the ringing vibration and sound of the strings, and/or to get that
    choppy staccato effect. No?
    as far as I know, yeah

    I was playing today and noticed for the first time how much muting I do with the left hand.

    am I cheating?

    does it matter?
    mute with the left hand? Your strumming hand?
    www.RLMcDaniel.com

    1996: Ft Lauderdale
    1998: Birmingham
    2000: Charlotte, Tampa
    2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
    2004: Kissimmee
    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
    2010: MSG2
    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    rollings wrote:
    LukinFan wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    never knew it was called "palm muting".
    or that it was a technique to "practice" or anything.

    In order to achieve that sound, I would think its somewhat intrinsic that your hand "knows" it has to do something in order to stop the ringing vibration and sound of the strings, and/or to get that
    choppy staccato effect. No?
    as far as I know, yeah

    I was playing today and noticed for the first time how much muting I do with the left hand.

    am I cheating?

    does it matter?

    There are certain instances where I feel like that's the appropriate guitar move, but it's kind of a different thing from palm muting.
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    LukinFan wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    I was playing today and noticed for the first time how much muting I do with the left hand.

    am I cheating?

    does it matter?
    mute with the left hand? Your strumming hand?

    No. the left hand is usually the non-strumming hand. the hand that presses down the strings.
  • rollings
    rollings unknown Posts: 7,127
    DewieCox wrote:
    rollings wrote:
    I was playing today and noticed for the first time how much muting I do with the left hand.

    am I cheating?

    does it matter?

    There are certain instances where I feel like that's the appropriate guitar move, but it's kind of a different thing from palm muting.

    it's different,
    but how?