Ron Paul - Out?

inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
edited June 2012 in A Moving Train
Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    Can't beat the machine.

    Hopefully his message will be kept close by all the young people who have rallied around him.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,749
    I hope he runs as a Libertarian or something. Id vote for him.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    he should have and should run as an independent ... he's simply not a republican in so much as kucinich is not a democrat ... not the way these parties have been the last few decades ... it's noble for him to want to change the party from the inside out ... but that's like trying to make taco bell into a health conscious food joint ... he should run as an indie and spent his money getting himself in the televised presidential debates ...
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    I’m wondering what Ron Paul got out of this deal. Hell his supporters just booed Romney’s son off stage and now Paul’s backing off. I’m confused.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    puremagic wrote:
    I’m wondering what Ron Paul got out of this deal. Hell his supporters just booed Romney’s son off stage and now Paul’s backing off. I’m confused.
    agreed.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    puremagic wrote:
    I’m wondering what Ron Paul got out of this deal. Hell his supporters just booed Romney’s son off stage and now Paul’s backing off. I’m confused.
    agreed.

    same here
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    he didn't drop out.

    read his letter your self and you will see.

    this does two things.

    The state conventions are where delegates are at, he said they will still be campaigning at state conventions. No where in his statement did it say suspend the campaign.

    There has always been a delegate strategy, and this just further proves it. Can't play the game like a millionaire if yuou don't have the funds. That is how other campaigns end up with debts they cannot pay. Paul won't do that, and he won't foolishly spend money in losing states. He said he wouldn't campaign in florida, that didn't mean he dropped out of the race.

    Funny that the only thing the MSM reports on is his dropping out, and they cannot even get that right...If you read the papers and watched the national news you wouldn't even have known he was running. Still in and still accumulating delegates.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    he didn't drop out.

    Yeh, I know. That's why I used a "?". All the stories - all over the nation are using the words "out".

    But, regardless, it sucks he can't compete in these states financially. I hope he pulls off a miracle, but it's unlikely.

    I'm wondering why he even announced this though.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    puremagic wrote:
    I’m wondering what Ron Paul got out of this deal. Hell his supporters just booed Romney’s son off stage and now Paul’s backing off. I’m confused.


    the message that sparked this

    As I reflect on our 2012 Presidential campaign, I am humbled by the supporters who have worked so hard and sacrificed so much. And I am so proud of what we have accomplished. We will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.

    This campaign fought hard and won electoral success that the talking heads and pundits never thought possible. But, this campaign is also about more than just the 2012 election. It has been part of a quest I began 40 years ago and that so many have joined. It is about the campaign for Liberty, which has taken a tremendous leap forward in this election and will continue to grow stronger in the future until we finally win.

    Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.

    Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have. I encourage all supporters of Liberty to make sure you get to the polls and make your voices heard, particularly in the local, state, and Congressional elections, where so many defenders of Freedom are fighting and need your support.

    I hope all supporters of Liberty will remain deeply involved - become delegates, win office, and take leadership positions. I will be right there with you. In the coming days, my campaign leadership will lay out to you our delegate strategy and what you can do to help, so please stay tuned.

    For Liberty,

    Ron Paul
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inlet13 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    he didn't drop out.

    Yeh, I know. That's why I used a "?". All the stories - all over the nation are using the words "out".

    But, regardless, it sucks he can't compete in these states financially. I hope he pulls off a miracle, but it's unlikely.

    I'm wondering why he even announced this though.


    If I had to guess, it would be to get other supporters (Romney) to be even less dedicated than they are. Lower turn out at state conventions is a good thing for the Paul campaign. I have MN this weekend, I will let you know what I see, but we won't give up, and Paul hasn't either. He just isn't going to throw money at huge states like Texas and California when his numbers just aren't going to make a dent. If you or anyone else look into how meticulously he records his campaign expenses you will know what I am talking about in terms of his fiscal sanity. He has basically won enough states to get nominated from the floor at the convention and that is all that matters right now.
    There are two kinds of speeches a person can give at the convention...one that is heavily edited, and one that is a platform speech aimed at securing the nomination. Which one do you think he wants to give? :lol:
    He can't compete against a monster like Romney with funds...but if people THINK the race is over, I am betting that less people are willing to show up for Romney...but that could be wishful thinking...An election between Goldman Sachs and Goldman Sachs II is a sad choice for America if you ask me.

    also, I was replying to the others with my comments, I assumed by the question mark that you got it ;)
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    puremagic wrote:
    I’m wondering what Ron Paul got out of this deal. Hell his supporters just booed Romney’s son off stage and now Paul’s backing off. I’m confused.


    the message that sparked this

    As I reflect on our 2012 Presidential campaign, I am humbled by the supporters who have worked so hard and sacrificed so much. And I am so proud of what we have accomplished. We will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.

    This campaign fought hard and won electoral success that the talking heads and pundits never thought possible. But, this campaign is also about more than just the 2012 election. It has been part of a quest I began 40 years ago and that so many have joined. It is about the campaign for Liberty, which has taken a tremendous leap forward in this election and will continue to grow stronger in the future until we finally win.

    Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.

    Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have. I encourage all supporters of Liberty to make sure you get to the polls and make your voices heard, particularly in the local, state, and Congressional elections, where so many defenders of Freedom are fighting and need your support.

    I hope all supporters of Liberty will remain deeply involved - become delegates, win office, and take leadership positions. I will be right there with you. In the coming days, my campaign leadership will lay out to you our delegate strategy and what you can do to help, so please stay tuned.

    For Liberty,

    Ron Paul

    I read that before I posted, but, I’m still wondering what he gets out of this.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    FORWARD.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    puremagic wrote:
    I read that before I posted, but, I’m still wondering what he gets out of this.

    i think there are two sentiments ...

    1. some feel he can still win at the RNC
    2. hopefully, he can make inroads in policy within the GOP ... he may not get the nomination but maybe they will give him a place within the establishment to affect some form of change
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    CH156378 wrote:
    FORWARD.


    To our destruction. But I'm good with that and ready to rebuild this nation to what our Founding Fathers wanted. This spend spend spend experiment has been proven to not work.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    edited May 2012
    sorry double post
    Post edited by musicismylife78 on
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    damn that sucks. i wanted him to continue on to the convention. Its clear he really disagrees with much of what the republican party, and democrat party stand for and it would have been interesting to see him at the convention, with the 2nd most delegates and the debate that would have ensued.

    I hope he continues to campaign. I seriously would consider voting for the guy. i may have to write in his name on election day.

    As far as im concerned he was the only legitimate candidate running on either side.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    edited May 2012
    A lot of Paul Supporters bought into the mainstream media today initially. It was a very confusing day for sure.
    Post edited by peacefrompaul on
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    damn that sucks. i wanted him to continue on to the convention. Its clear he really disagrees with much of what the republican party, and democrat party stand for and it would have been interesting to see him at the convention, with the 2nd most delegates and the debate that would have ensued.

    I hope he continues to campaign. I seriously would consider voting for the guy. i may have to write in his name on election day.

    As far as im concerned he was the only legitimate candidate running on either side.

    He is still running, just not going to put his dollars towards the primaries anymore. The plan, as it has been from the beginning, is to focus on the delegates until the game is officially over.
  • Nevermind90Nevermind90 Posts: 722
    Ron Paul NOT Quitting! Just Changing Campaigning Strategy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6icXnWW ... e=youtu.be
    ~ Enjoy The Struggle
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Ron Paul NOT Quitting! Just Changing Campaigning Strategy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6icXnWW ... e=youtu.be


    She is so annoying to watch and it has nothing to do with her politics. It's kinda like Greta is annoying to watch and it has nothing to do with her politics.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    At least I got to put a check next to his name in the primary.

    To be realistic, the nomination has been in Romney's hands since the beginning. As long as he held a steady course, which he did, it was a waste of time and money by everyone else. (although it was great times for media advertising departments)
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Jason P wrote:
    At least I got to put a check next to his name in the primary.

    To be realistic, the nomination has been in Romney's hands since the beginning. As long as he held a steady course, which he did, it was a waste of time and money by everyone else. (although it was great times for media advertising departments)


    I knew I liked you.

    Just got word he will be at the MN convention, can't wait.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
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    The latest....



    Memorandum

    To:               Supporters, Interested Parties

    From:          Jesse Benton, Chief Strategist

    Date:           May 15, 2012

    Re:              Paul Campaign Convention Strategy

    Every day, I see firsthand how humbled and encouraged Dr. Paul is to have the enthusiastic support of so many who are committed to revitalizing our country.

    Let me be very clear.  Dr. Paul is NOT dropping out or suspending his campaign.

    As Dr. Paul has previously stated, he is in this race all the way to the Republican National Convention in Tampa this August.

    And he is deeply grateful for every resource he has been entrusted with to run an historic campaign that continues to defy all expectations.

    Looking ahead, our campaign must honor that trust by maximizing our resources to ensure the greatest possible impact at the National Convention.

    So while our campaign is no longer investing in the remaining primary states, we will continue to run strong programs at District and State Conventions to win more delegates and alternate delegates to the National Convention.

    To this end, our campaign has several positive and realistic goals:

    1)    Having recently WON Maine, we believe we can win several more states.
    2)    We will win party leadership positions at both the state and national levels.
    3)    We will continue to grow our already substantial total of delegates.

    We will head to Tampa with a solid group of delegates.  Several hundred will be bound to Dr. Paul, and several hundred more, although bound to Governor Romney or other candidates, will be Ron Paul supporters.

    Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination.  Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party’s nod.  However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.

    All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.

    We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve.  Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom.

    Finally, by sending a large, respectful, and professional delegation to Tampa, we will show the party and the country that not only is our movement growing and here to stay, but that the future belongs to us.
     
    Dr. Paul will begin this new phase of the campaign this Friday by speaking and holding several events at the Minnesota State Convention.  He has also recently accepted an invitation to speak at the Texas Convention, and we are busy scheduling appearances around other State Conventions later this month and into June.

    As Dr. Paul stated in his message yesterday, this fight is NOT over.  We will continue fighting and expanding, and “we will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.”

    But for Dr. Paul’s efforts in the remaining State Conventions to be successful, and to ensure we get as many Ron Paul delegates to Tampa as we can, he needs you to continue standing with him.

    Along those lines, as you probably already know, the grassroots are holding a Money Bomb on Thursday, May 17.  Any money raised from that Money Bomb will go toward winning delegates and finalizing our plans for Tampa.

    As those plans for the National Convention come together, we will make sure all of our delegates, whether bound or unbound, get the information and aid they need.

    Your support on May 17 will also help us reach more Americans with the solutions we know can restore our nation.  Each person we add to our cause strengthens our movement for the critical work that awaits us beyond Tampa.

    Dr. Paul, John Tate, myself, and the entire campaign staff know what incredible sacrifices have been made by each of our supporters.

    Thank you for all of your hard work and your dedication to liberty.  Together, we will champion Ron Paul and his message in Tampa, and we will lay the groundwork for future victories.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    That's a shame. He's the only one I considered voting FOR. There are plenty I will vote AGAINST.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    please please please VP Xfingers.gif
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,749
    I wouldnt like Paul as the VP. That would mean he would need to sacrifice his ideals and bow down to the machine. I dont see him doing that at this point. That would also take away Romney's chance to appeal to the lowest denominator.

    I would rather he run as an 3rd party. As a left-leaning Independant I would surely vote for him if given the opportunity.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    MayDay10 wrote:
    I wouldnt like Paul as the VP. That would mean he would need to sacrifice his ideals and bow down to the machine. I dont see him doing that at this point. That would also take away Romney's chance to appeal to the lowest denominator.

    I would rather he run as an 3rd party. As a left-leaning Independant I would surely vote for him if given the opportunity.
    Then you do not care if Romney or Obama take it perhaps they are of equal crap to you?
    Because a vote for Ron as independent would still be symbolic.

    Ron won't get another chance, he can make a very positive contribution as VP
    and has earned the honor.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    sooo ... is he officially done?
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    polaris_x wrote:
    sooo ... is he officially done?

    NO
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