Fox News: Ron Paul is much bigger than people know
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at least people are starting to realize that he isn't going away. That his support is broader in base than most of the other candidates and that this convention may signal the end of the current neo-con controlled GOP. It is funny that they describe the caucus rules as arcane now that Ron Paul has proven to be so good at it. Apparently we should simply pick a president based on presidential preference polls that are anything but "official". I for one say thanks to all the Paul supporters who keep showing up in the face of tremendous odds...As Dr. Paul stated, "let it not be said we did nothing". Thank god people still care...and the more it is printed and we are told that Romney is the nominee, the easier it will be for Paul to continue to amass delegates. The only thing we can hope for is that he doesn't have 1144 pledged and counted delegates before the convention. As unlikely as that is, there is still hope. We know his supporters are still rabid...I don't think we can say the same for Romney.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
p.s. I'm sincerely curious about this and intend no digs in asking. And no offense intended to my neighboring state, Nevada.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Add those to my question above.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Would provide a credible threat if this domino effect continued with bigger states (CA, TX, etc).
But, further, think about a convention with a bunch of Ron Paul delegates there. Because now they definitively will be. Basically, this says Romney better get his support... in some way, some how,... because not only could he threaten to run as an independent, he could provide all sorts of issues at the convention right when "unification" is supposed to occur. Ron Paul knew what he was doing all along, and many of us here mentioned throughout that this was his approach. Basically, his message gains power with each every single delegate. That's what he wants.
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But will the result of running as an independent be to split the party much as when Ralph Nader ran as an independent? That's what it sounds like... unless Paul really thinks he can win which, regardless of what any of us think about Ron Paul, would be unusual, to say the least.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
It's an interesting question, especially considering the Libertarians already had their convention over the weekend and nominated Gary Johnson. Does Ron Paul still see a path to the nomination? Is this solely for leverage at the RNC and/or the party platform going forward? Would he run as an independent? If so, under which party? If he did run, would Gary Johnson step aside or push on? I'm really interested to see how this plays out.
Side note: That video, top to bottom, has the production value of a public access show.
His strong following is a minority in the republican party and a large contingent of college age kids and independents. The latter are not always eligible to vote in primaries, as is the case in California...and college kids never vote in numbers great enough to sway elections save for a handful of times. Google Ron Paul College and you will see he does have momentum. Literally thousands show up in places like Berkeley and UCLA and A&M and Chico to hear him speak. It just isn't translating into primary votes...After all this is a group that booed the Golden rule at a debate...( Not sure I would feel too good about myself if I had picked a candidate who's supports booed the golden rule
In all reality, if it was translating into large republican base support the revolution (corny I know, but hey that is what they call it) wouldn't be needed. The republican party would already be in line and he wouldn't have to try his best to change it.
State conventions across the US will find that a passionate few can still outnumber an uninspired base. Winning a primary doesn't guarantee you all the delegates. It does in some states, but others like Louisiana it doesn't. Missouri is another...Paul will stay in it until he is mathematically eliminated...not fake math...real counted votes.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
There are many unbound delegates that will be going to the convention...right now many of them are estimated to be in support of Romney, but they have nothing binding them...they can change their mind...the more people Paul brings to the convention the more good things can happen. I honestly believe we are seeing the first step in a long process of taking back control of the republican party from the neo-conservative movement. It is strange that a party, at a time when they could have dominated an election, are doing their best to exclude new voters. Pundits talk about Paul getting most of his support from independents and disenfranchised democrats like it is a bad thing.
and as a side note,y Rasmussen, I believe, did a poll with all three candidates yesterday or the day before and Paul pulled independent support from Obama. Pretty interesting. I wouldn't have thought that either...but on the other hand, most strong Paul supporters see no difference in voting for Romney or Obama, so he won't really be pulling support from Romney.
A 3rd Party run is unlikely... Can't say never, but you can definitely say that he will have an influence on the party committees around the nation long after this election is forgotten.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Well, I don't think his real goal is to run as an Independent. I think...
1) He thinks there is a chance he can win the Republican Nomination... at this point, I think he'd admit that chance is very, very small, but it's there. Ironically, after these past two weeks, his chances have actually increased, not decreased.
2) His real goal is to change the party platform. I sincerely think he and Romney have discussed this in depth... perhaps prior to the debates. I think Romney knows he wants something and basically said, if you don't hit me too hard through the campaign, yet become a serious contender, I'll give you what you want. Paul's doing that. So, my bet is he'll receive "something"... most likely a huge, important speech at the convention and platform adjustments... but, who knows... maybe even a high-profile place in the cabinet (Treasury?) ha ha... probably not, but who knows. His "son" may receive something instead too, I wouldn't count anything off the table. What he's doing is very, very important. He's altering the "establishment" in the Republican party... ironically, I think Romney doesn't mind that (not that I'm a fan of him, but I think he doesn't seem to be quite the neo-con Gingrich and Santorum types are).
Yet, the threat of an independent run exists... and although I think he'd pull votes from Obama and Romney, I think you're right that Romney also doesn't want that to occur because it most likely would be bad for him. So, at the end of the day, this gives me more reason to say that Romney will bow to #2) above.
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