Newt $4 million in debt...

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
edited May 2012 in A Moving Train
and this man is running for an office trying to tell US how to manage money?? trying to tell US to cut spending? sounds like newt needed more revenue....

and better character....

and a better message....

etc...

:fp:

see ya newt, woot....

Newt Gingrich $4 Million in Debt; Staffers and Creditors Fume

http://news.yahoo.com/newt-gingrich-4-m ... ories.html

Newt Gingrich ends his White House dream today with his political committee facing a mountain of debts -- owing about $4 million to scores of businesses and campaign workers around the country who fear they will never get paid.

Campaign watchdogs said the size of Gingrich's debt is extraordinary -- and could have been avoided if the candidate and his team had been more disciplined.

"He was reckless in running up these bills, especially in the last month or so of the campaign when it was quite clear that Mitt Romney would be the nominee," said Craig Holman, a government affairs lobbyist for the watchdog group Citizen Union.

The campaign has been dogged by financial problems since last summer, but its cash crunch accelerated in recent weeks. It finished March with $4.3 million in debts, an alarming increase from $1.5 million at the end of February, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.

The campaign raised $1.6 million in March, spent $2 million and reported having $1.2 million cash on hand.

Help may be on the way. USA Today reports that Gingrich, in an interview, said he is embracing Mitt Romney's candidacy, and Romney and the Republican National Committee have offered to be helpful in retiring Gingrich's debt.

Relief can't come soon enough for the Gingrich campaign's anxious creditors. The campaign owes Moby Dick Airways $1.1 million for travel and charter flights.; the Patriot Group, a Virginia security company, $449,502 for helping to protect the candidate; and McKenna, Long and Aldridge, a law firm with offices in Atlanta, $183,658 for legal services, the reports show.

But many of the campaign's creditors are small businesses that say they will suffer major hardship if they are not paid.

In Phoenix, a company called Pro-Production Services is owed $32,506 for providing stages, lighting and sound equipment for a series of campaign appearances by Gingrich in Nevada last January.

"We floated quite a bit of money -- a lot of out-of-pocket costs that we covered," said Ryan Driscoll, a project manager for the company. "I am a little worried. Nobody wants to lose 32 grand."

Vic Buttermore, owner of Signs Unlimited in Ocala, Fla., says he's "keeping my fingers crossed" the Gingrich campaign will pony up the $15,000 it still owes for an order of 25,000 "Newt 2012" lawn signs

"Am I nervous? Oh yeah, by all means," he said. "They keep telling us, 'We've got you covered, you will be paid.' But I have my doubts. I really do. That's a lot of money for a small company."

Moshe Starkman of Chevy Chase, Md., is among the dozens of frustrated former campaign staffers waiting for back pay. Starkman, who helped the campaign build grassroots support, is owed for more than three months of work.

"You hear the payment is coming 'next week,' or 'later,' or 'in a couple of days.' They always give excuses," he said. "I've had to spend my savings."

Gingrich told ABC News on April 10 that his "management team got very excited in Florida" and went on a spending spree hoping to beat Romney in Florida's Jan. 31 primary. Romney went on to beat Gingrich 46 percent to 32, a turning point in the campaign.

"You know, Romney spent $20 million in Florida in three weeks, and I think some of our guys decided to try to match him and we didn't have Wall Street (support)," Gingrich said. "I am going to spend some time paying it off. It is something I have done several times in my career."

None of the other Republican also-rans for president are as deeply in the red as Gingrich's campaign. Michele Bachmann's campaign has about $1 million in outstanding obligations, Rick Santorum owes $1.9 million and Rick Perry has only $14,463 to pay off.

Tim Pawlenty dropped out of the race owing $435,542 -- but Romney's campaign helped him raise money to retire the debt in return for Pawlenty's endorsement.

Campaign debts can haunt unsuccessful candidates for years, symbols of failure and futility they are unable to forget.

But losing candidates like Gingrich who hold no office face the biggest challenge in trying to retire their debts. The reason is simple: They are in no position to help donors or influence public policy.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani still owes two dozen creditors $1.5 million from his unsuccessful 2008 run for President, while Hillary Clinton's campaign has $245,000 in unpaid bills.

Democrat John Edwards' 2004 presidential campaign still owes $333,500. The political committee of Republican Alan Keyes is saddled with a $301,000 debt from his failed 2000 run for president.

But in the history of campaign debts, Sen. John Glenn (D-Ohio) stands alone. He still owed banks, lawyers, a bumper-sticker maker, 161 former campaign workers and other creditors nearly $3 million more than 20 years after his failed run for president in 1984.

Glenn waved a white flag in 2005, notifying the Federal Election Commission that he was unable to pay them back. The following year the agency gave him permission to disband his campaign committee.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    never liked newt. see ya, jack-wagon c.s.er
    you can't even budget and balance your own life. we'll be damned if we allow you to run our lives. you sir are out of control
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    It is amazing how long he stuck around. Not a very good sign for Romney when a dude the GOP basically kicked-out of the club, has multiple integrity issues, and clearly can't manage money was able to put up a fight for so long.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    It is amazing how long he stuck around. Not a very good sign for Romney when a dude the GOP basically kicked-out of the club, has multiple integrity issues, and clearly can't manage money was able to put up a fight for so long.
    to be honest, i would have had more respect for him had he cut his losses and gotten out 2 months ago when it was obvious that he was not going to win the nomination, let alone the presidency. it just underscores the entire republican mantra of "stay the course" that he helped to bring in back in the 80s...i hope he doesn't screw those businesses and those staffers out of their money...

    i guess he can always write a book that will somehow sell and make some of that money back...but he needs to pay those people back, not pay himself first.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,593
    as if we need more reasons to think these politicians are assholes. ridiculous how all those fuckers owe money to workers.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    pjhawks wrote:
    as if we need more reasons to think these politicians are assholes. ridiculous how all those fuckers owe money to workers.
    it is an easy problem to fix though. simply do not work for any of them, and if you do, just assume you are working for free, because in a lot of cases they actually ended up working for free.... if we all would not work for them, they would not owe people any money.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • klusterfukklusterfuk Posts: 1,411
    that's is the problem with guys like him. they will screw anyone anyway they can to get into office. good luck to the people he owes. what happens if you or I owe money like that, they take our shit and auction it off to pay it back. why don't that rule apply to them.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,593
    pjhawks wrote:
    as if we need more reasons to think these politicians are assholes. ridiculous how all those fuckers owe money to workers.
    it is an easy problem to fix though. simply do not work for any of them, and if you do, just assume you are working for free, because in a lot of cases they actually ended up working for free.... if we all would not work for them, they would not owe people any money.

    easier said than done though. for a small company hard to turn down a 35-50k job. seems like you are blaming the victims here. maybe if you are a staff member i understand your point, but not outside contractors, especially in this economy.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    glad we didn't do any printing for him ...

    now those Obama calendars a few years back those were profitable 8-)

    we've been stuck by others before, you get a nice little piece of paper listing
    everyone who's owed ...
    and that's about all you get being unsecured debt.

    The local pizzeria was even on the list :evil:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    pjhawks wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    as if we need more reasons to think these politicians are assholes. ridiculous how all those fuckers owe money to workers.
    it is an easy problem to fix though. simply do not work for any of them, and if you do, just assume you are working for free, because in a lot of cases they actually ended up working for free.... if we all would not work for them, they would not owe people any money.

    easier said than done though. for a small company hard to turn down a 35-50k job. seems like you are blaming the victims here. maybe if you are a staff member i understand your point, but not outside contractors, especially in this economy.
    i am not blaming the victims at all. all i am saying is if you do business with the devil do not be surprised at the outcome. if you really think about it, they should have known what they were getting into when dealing with newt. he has a history of being deceitfull and dishonest and impulsive. and newt should have made sure he was going to be able to pay these people and these businesses.

    he had a revenue problem. he could have stopped his campaign months ago, but he didn't. hope that fat ego of his takes a few hits from this.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    its funny that the pro business candidate screwed these small businesses...

    what an idiot..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,593
    i am not blaming the victims at all. all i am saying is if you do business with the devil do not be surprised at the outcome. if you really think about it, they should have known what they were getting into when dealing with newt. he has a history of being deceitfull and dishonest and impulsive. and newt should have made sure he was going to be able to pay these people and these businesses.

    he had a revenue problem. he could have stopped his campaign months ago, but he didn't. hope that fat ego of his takes a few hits from this.

    got it. i work for a small business and it gets stressful when checks you expect don't come in. hard to sustain a business when people don't pay, yet when you need the business you also take what you can get. catch-22.

    and heartless bastard's like newt aren't affected by screwing others. it's what he and those types do. no conscious.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    all is fair in love and war and business and we can add politics too I guess,
    what's left?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    this really isn't a new problem

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75211.html

    this is just one example. It is everywhere and the debts need to be paid. So now, not only do politicians spend millions and possibly hundreds of millions of dollars on a campaign, they also get to do it on credit most of the time...jesus christ...if I EVER worked for a campaign as a consultant or any other capacity where I didn't feel my time and effort was a donation, I would ask for money up front.
    God damn I am glad that santorum and moonbase are out of the race...it was terrifying to think what would happen to personal liberty with Santorum in the white house. And how much poorer a shape the government would be in if Newt were president.

    and since I cannot help it, not all the campaigns go into debt
    http://www.propublica.org/article/ron-paul-is-really-serious-about-transparency

    http://rt.com/usa/news/ron-paul-money-race-590/
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    pjhawks wrote:
    i am not blaming the victims at all. all i am saying is if you do business with the devil do not be surprised at the outcome. if you really think about it, they should have known what they were getting into when dealing with newt. he has a history of being deceitfull and dishonest and impulsive. and newt should have made sure he was going to be able to pay these people and these businesses.

    he had a revenue problem. he could have stopped his campaign months ago, but he didn't. hope that fat ego of his takes a few hits from this.

    got it. i work for a small business and it gets stressful when checks you expect don't come in. hard to sustain a business when people don't pay, yet when you need the business you also take what you can get. catch-22.

    and heartless bastard's like newt aren't affected by screwing others. it's what he and those types do. no conscious.
    i understand that catch 22 and i know what it is like to be owed something and never get it. these people go on and on about how the small businesses are the job creators and they are campaigning to help the job creators and then they promptly screw them out of money. it is sickening.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,214
    You can't make shit up like this what a classless turd , at least now he can just dissappear ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,194
    why does it take a week to make the announcement? same thing with hermann cain. knew it was coming. everyone did. but we'll announce a week from now we're dropping out. WTF? :roll:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    mickeyrat wrote:
    why does it take a week to make the announcement? same thing with hermann cain. knew it was coming. everyone did. but we'll announce a week from now we're dropping out. WTF? :roll:
    just another way of trying to stay in the news cycle for a week to see if he can raise some money...

    if i recall correctly, if you end your campaign you have to pay the remaining money back, but if you "suspend" your campaign you get to keep it. is that right?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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