Spying Bill Passed in House Of Representatives
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House Passes Controversial Cybersecurity Measure CISPA
By David Kravets
April 26, 2012
The House on Thursday approved cybersecurity legislation that privacy groups have decried as a threat to civil liberties.
The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA, sponsored by Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Michigan) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Maryland), passed on a vote of 248 to 168.
Its goal is a more secure internet, but privacy groups fear the measure breaches Americans’ privacy along the way. The White House had weighed in on Wednesday, threatening a veto unless there were significant changes to increase consumer privacy. The bill was amended to provide more privacy protections, but it was not immediately clear whether the Senate or the White House would give the amended bill its blessing.
The measure, which some are calling the Son of SOPA, allows internet service providers to share information with the government, including the Department of Homeland Security and the National Security Agency, about cybersecurity threats it detects on the internet. An ISP is not required to shield any personally identifying data of its customers when it believes it has detected threats, which include attack signatures, malicious code, phishing sites or botnets. In short, the measure seeks to undo privacy laws that generally forbid ISPs from disclosing customer communications with anybody else unless with a court order.
The bill immunizes ISPs from privacy lawsuits for voluntarily disclosing customer information thought to be a security threat. Internet companies are also granted anti-trust protection to immunize them against allegations of colluding on cybersecurity issues. The measure is not solely limited to cybersecurity, and includes the catchall phrase “national security” as a valid reason for turning over the data.
CISPA also allows ISPs to bypass privacy laws and share data with fellow ISPs in a bid to promptly extinguish a cyberattack.
Moments before the vote was taken during a daylong hearing, Rogers urged his colleagues to “stand up for America. Support this bill.” He said those who were opposing the measure — groups that include the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation — were practicing “obfuscation.”
The bill’s supporters include Microsoft, Facebook, AT&T, Verizon, Oracle and many others.
The ACLU quickly blasted the measure’s passage. They and other groups said Americans’ private data should not be shared with the military, and that data sent to the government should be anonymized as much as possible to protect privacy.
“Cybersecurity does not have to mean abdication of Americans’ online privacy. As we’ve seen repeatedly, once the government gets expansive national security authorities, there’s no going back. We encourage the Senate to let this horrible bill fade into obscurity,” said Michelle Richardson, ACLU legislative counsel.
Some last-minute amendments included making non-national-security data subject to the Freedom of Information Act, sunsetting the measure after five years and barring the government (.pdf) from reviewing library, firearms, tax and medical records.
Rep. Edward Markey (D-Massachusetts) during the debate seemingly agreed with the ACLU. “Could the government use that personal information to spy on Americans? Yes,” he said. Rep. Dan Boren (D-Oklahoma) wasn’t convinced: “The government is not the enemy,” he said.
Amendments to remove language allowing the information-sharing in the name of “national security,” and to remove the NSA from the agencies receiving the data, never made it to the House floor.
The measure is now headed for the Senate. If it passes there, it will go to the White House for approval or veto.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/0 ... ses-cispa/
House Passes Controversial Cybersecurity Measure CISPA
By David Kravets
April 26, 2012
The House on Thursday approved cybersecurity legislation that privacy groups have decried as a threat to civil liberties.
The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, or CISPA, sponsored by Reps. Mike Rogers (R-Michigan) and Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Maryland), passed on a vote of 248 to 168.
Its goal is a more secure internet, but privacy groups fear the measure breaches Americans’ privacy along the way. The White House had weighed in on Wednesday, threatening a veto unless there were significant changes to increase consumer privacy. The bill was amended to provide more privacy protections, but it was not immediately clear whether the Senate or the White House would give the amended bill its blessing.
The measure, which some are calling the Son of SOPA, allows internet service providers to share information with the government, including the Department of Homeland Security and the National Security Agency, about cybersecurity threats it detects on the internet. An ISP is not required to shield any personally identifying data of its customers when it believes it has detected threats, which include attack signatures, malicious code, phishing sites or botnets. In short, the measure seeks to undo privacy laws that generally forbid ISPs from disclosing customer communications with anybody else unless with a court order.
The bill immunizes ISPs from privacy lawsuits for voluntarily disclosing customer information thought to be a security threat. Internet companies are also granted anti-trust protection to immunize them against allegations of colluding on cybersecurity issues. The measure is not solely limited to cybersecurity, and includes the catchall phrase “national security” as a valid reason for turning over the data.
CISPA also allows ISPs to bypass privacy laws and share data with fellow ISPs in a bid to promptly extinguish a cyberattack.
Moments before the vote was taken during a daylong hearing, Rogers urged his colleagues to “stand up for America. Support this bill.” He said those who were opposing the measure — groups that include the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Frontier Foundation — were practicing “obfuscation.”
The bill’s supporters include Microsoft, Facebook, AT&T, Verizon, Oracle and many others.
The ACLU quickly blasted the measure’s passage. They and other groups said Americans’ private data should not be shared with the military, and that data sent to the government should be anonymized as much as possible to protect privacy.
“Cybersecurity does not have to mean abdication of Americans’ online privacy. As we’ve seen repeatedly, once the government gets expansive national security authorities, there’s no going back. We encourage the Senate to let this horrible bill fade into obscurity,” said Michelle Richardson, ACLU legislative counsel.
Some last-minute amendments included making non-national-security data subject to the Freedom of Information Act, sunsetting the measure after five years and barring the government (.pdf) from reviewing library, firearms, tax and medical records.
Rep. Edward Markey (D-Massachusetts) during the debate seemingly agreed with the ACLU. “Could the government use that personal information to spy on Americans? Yes,” he said. Rep. Dan Boren (D-Oklahoma) wasn’t convinced: “The government is not the enemy,” he said.
Amendments to remove language allowing the information-sharing in the name of “national security,” and to remove the NSA from the agencies receiving the data, never made it to the House floor.
The measure is now headed for the Senate. If it passes there, it will go to the White House for approval or veto.
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https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-lib ... n-act-2011
American Civil Liberties Union:
The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act would create a cybersecurity exception to all privacy laws and allow companies to share the private and personal data they hold on their American customers with the government for cybersecurity purposes. The bill would not limit the companies to sharing only technical, non-personal data. Instead, it would give the companies discretion to decide the type and amount of information to turn over to the government. If shared in good faith compliance with the statute, these entities would receive full liability protection and would be immune from criminal or civil liability, even after an egregious breach of privacy. Further, once an individual’s information is shared with the government, there would be no restriction on the use of that information. It could be used for any purpose whatsoever and shared with any agency. While such data might be used for cybersecurity purposes, there would be no bar on the government also using it to conduct fishing expeditions for criminal, immigration or other purposes.
Beyond the potential for massive data collection authorization, the bill would provide no meaningful oversight of, or accountability for, the use of these new information-sharing authorities. Congressional reporting would be delegated to the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB). But the PCLOB has never been activated, therefore making it likely that no regular, institutionalized and substantive reporting will happen at all. Moreover, no federal agency or official has been tasked with issuing guidance to companies and government agencies as to how best protect privacy.0 -
obama says he will veto it. i hope he does.
funny thing is that under bush this law would be being praised....
this is a classic example of corporate influence on our system, and how paranoia and money will make congressmen vote to take away your rights."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487He said he'd veto NDAA as well. How did that work out?
Thankfully we have some politicians like Rep Justin Amash that introduce amendments that have meaning.0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:obama says he will veto it. i hope he does.
funny thing is that under bush this law would be being praised....
this is a classic example of corporate influence on our system, and how paranoia and money will make congressmen vote to take away your rights.
I don't know if it would have been praised under Bush, mainly because they would have just done it without telling anyone
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I just hope it really does get vetoed. Yikes!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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It's true, he did say he would veto NDAA but pulled his veto threat after changes were made to it. My gut tells me he will veto this if it passes though Obama never ceases to amaze me.
I don't think it will pass the Senate.0 -
lol nothing passes the senate these days. you need to have 60 votes for everything there now just to break the record number of filibusters...peacefrompaul wrote:It's true, he did say he would veto NDAA but pulled his veto threat after changes were made to it. My gut tells me he will veto this if it passes though Obama never ceases to amaze me.
I don't think it will pass the Senate."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
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i believe that it has, and the proposed legislation is seeking to retroactively make it legal to cover some butts in the event of lawsuits...Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:
i believe that it has, and the proposed legislation is seeking to retroactively make it legal to cover some butts in the event of lawsuits...Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather.
right on.
look up carnivore...they have had the ability to do this for ages...the NSA pretty much operates with impunity, so if the FBI had this technology to use with a warrant...it is my suspicion that the NSA wou....wait, I think I see black helicoptersthat’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:
lol nothing passes the senate these days. you need to have 60 votes for everything there now just to break the record number of filibusters...peacefrompaul wrote:It's true, he did say he would veto NDAA but pulled his veto threat after changes were made to it. My gut tells me he will veto this if it passes though Obama never ceases to amaze me.
I don't think it will pass the Senate.
so now we have the dem's and repub's scrambling to cover their butts and if don't pass they must be looking at a real mess somewhere somehow, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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mikepegg44 wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:
i believe that it has, and the proposed legislation is seeking to retroactively make it legal to cover some butts in the event of lawsuits...Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather.
right on.
look up carnivore...they have had the ability to do this for ages...the NSA pretty much operates with impunity, so if the FBI had this technology to use with a warrant...it is my suspicion that the NSA wou....wait, I think I see black helicopters you'll never see em..but they see you.
honestly I'll bet that ain't no joke. :problem:
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:
lol nothing passes the senate these days. you need to have 60 votes for everything there now just to break the record number of filibusters...peacefrompaul wrote:It's true, he did say he would veto NDAA but pulled his veto threat after changes were made to it. My gut tells me he will veto this if it passes though Obama never ceases to amaze me.
I don't think it will pass the Senate.
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Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather, it's 'Surprise', not 'Superise'.
Superise sounds like something you get at McDonalds.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather, it's 'Surprise', not 'Superise'.
Superise sounds like something you get at McDonalds.
They're selling super eyes at McDonalds? :shock:"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Byrnzie wrote:Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather, it's 'Surprise', not 'Superise'.
Superise sounds like something you get at McDonalds.
thanks buddy
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brianlux wrote:Byrnzie wrote:Godfather. wrote:do you all think that maybe cyber spying has already been going on ? it wouldn't superise me if it has been happening for years now.
Godfather, it's 'Surprise', not 'Superise'.
Superise sounds like something you get at McDonalds.
They're selling super eyes at McDonalds? :shock: uncle Ronald is watching youuuu.
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Godfather. wrote:brianlux wrote:
They're selling super eyes at McDonalds? :shock: uncle Ronald is watching youuuu.
Godfather. "It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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