Trayvon Martin is just one person.
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Where is the outrage for the dozens of Chicago schoolchildren killed each year? Where are Al and Jesse? Why aren't they marching down the Englewood neighborhood demanding that the violence stop?
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Apparently one of the big differentiators is WHO killed Martin....and that shouldn't make an act worse or gain more notoriety for it.
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Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You might get a response or a better response if you contacted them directly.
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I don't know about that...I think to most it is more about HOW it was handled more so than WHO did the killing...the media certainly liked that angle.
I don't like sticking up for those guys, and it certainly appears that they only show up when the national media will be there, but in this case I firmly believe the outrage isn't over the killing, but the handling of the killing to begin with...or at least the reported handling of the case.
But if something isn't done in Chicago soon, I wouldn't be surprised to see the national guard role in and start enforcing some sort of curfew.
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:fp: is right.
Putting up one act of violence against another (especially in popularity) is just silly.
They're all different. And yeah, Sharpton and some of those guys are ridiculous, but this is obviously a very controversial case that is bringing major scrutiny to the laws of Florida.
And it is a fucking media circus because of all the unusual factors involved.
OP, why do you feel inclined to downplay the treyvon case? He is "just one person"? good grief. :?
So Stalin is wrong, a single death is a statistic and a million are a tragedy...
(I doubt Stalin ever said this, he was way too paranoid to make statements like this, but it matched the post)
Fair enough, but that leads me to ask what you mean by "HOW it was handled"? I am not an expert on the facts of this, but it looks like the police did an investigation and didn't press charges. Suddenly the media gets involved and charges are eventually pressed.
I won't be surprised if he ends up acquitted.
(And I am not supporting Zimmerman. In fact, I'm very anti-gun and anti-killing and am against what he did personally).
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Bingo.
You're wrong. I see the point.
Did you miss my point that Al and Jesse are obviously just raping that scenario for their own reasons.
You ask why arent they marching down the streets of chicago demanding that violence stops? I dont know, are the regular people of chicago doing anything? Or do they not care?
Honestly, you make a good point, but I personally dont think you need to preface it by saying "Treyvon is just one person." :? thats annoying and transparent.
Why not start a thread specifically about the chicago violence instead of basically saying that (and we know you want Zimmerman to get of cause you love the SYG law and your guns) its a shame that treyvon gets so much coverage. Why not be direct instead of lacing your argument with ulterior motives?
just saying
what stats are you talking about?
the homicide victim rate for African Americans is staggeringly high. ~ 13% of the population and is roughly half of all murder victims. among other things. It isn't a righty invention.
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/glance/tables/racetab.cfm
While African Americans comprise 13.5% of the U.S. Population, 43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed were African Americans.
http://www.hhscenter.org/bonbstat.html
So again I must ask, what crimes stats are you talking about? Care to share some? (not being a smart ass) I would love to see them...I am fascinated by the UCR and other stats on this...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homici ... acetab.cfm
So I may be reading this wrong but in the white on white and black on black I'm seeing similar numbers.
right, you are seeing the numbers, but interpreting them a little wrong...actual numbers and rates are very different. in essence, black on black isn't that much different than white on white in total numbers...but the population sizes of those two groups are VASTLY different.
so if we extrapolate a bit on estimated numbers of 300 million for a total population. and AA make up 13% of that while W are around 60% we have a total population of 180,000,000 vs 39,000,000.
so 4800 murder victims for white on white comes to a rudimentary rate of about 1 in 37,500 will be a victim of white on white homicide
so 4500 murder victims for black on black crime comes to a rudimentary rate of about 1 in 8700 will be a victim.
I know those things don't take everything into account, but should paint a picture for you about the differences in white on white homicide vs black on black homicide...
I think most would argue that BoB crime is a disproportionate problem
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Actually I haven't paid too much attention to the case simply because I don't see a conviction happening.
If racism ceased to exist Al and Jesse wouldnt have a reason to get those cameras out. So one single black male that is merely perceived to be a victim of a non-black person is fought for, yet when it's black on black they aren't around. They don't care about black people, they just want to throw out the racism card now. Gotta look good in front of the cameras.
If they actually cared out the black section of society they'd do more about reducing the ganglife that exists in that demographic.
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