Need a passport? Owe the IRS ?
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Just another example..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/ ... e-the-irs/
If he were in charge of travel, the Soup Nazi might say, “No Passport for you!” In real life, travel may seem unrelated to taxes, except perhaps for those annoying airport taxes on international destinations. But a bigger tax and travel connection could keep you at home—permanently.
A tax law quietly proposed a few months ago—Owe IRS Taxes, Lose Your Passport—is quietly gaining momentum. Now more people have noticed. If you owe the IRS? You’re not going anywhere if this law passes. In America, we love to tinker with our tax laws. Congress is always introducing one bill or another to tweak an already bloated and increasingly dysfunctional tax system.
It’s curious how ingredients go into the sausage, often making strange legislative bedfellows. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) proposed that if you owe the IRS more then $50,000, you shouldn’t get a passport. See Sen. Orrin Hatch’s Memo to Reporters and Editors. Now this ‘we-need-the-money’ provision has morphed into Senate Bill 1813, introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA). It was introduced in November and passed by the Senate on March 14 “to reauthorize Federal-aid highway and highway safety construction programs, and for other purposes.”
At best, there seems a titular connection between this provision and highway safety. Nevertheless, the law would authorize the federal government to prevent Americans from leaving the country if they owe back taxes. It was Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid who proposed allowing the State Department to revoke, deny or limit passports for anyone the IRS certifies as having “a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000.”
Does this apply in all cases? Mercifully no. You could travel if your tax debt is being paid in a timely manner or in emergency circumstances or for humanitarian reasons. But this isn’t limited to criminal tax cases or situations where the government fears someone is fleeing a tax debt.
In fact, if the bill is passed you could have your passport revoked merely because you owe say $60,000 and the IRS has filed a notice of lien. Bear in mind that the IRS files tax liens routinely when you owe taxes—it’s just the IRS way of putting creditors on notice so the IRS will eventually get paid. See Tax Liens Means IRS Thinks You Owe. In that sense, this you-can’t-travel idea seems pretty extreme.
Some commentators note that a far smaller sum of unpaid child support can trigger the same kind of passport action. Why shouldn’t unpaid taxes, they argue? Others attack the proposal as potentially unconstitutional.
Stay tuned as this proposed law is debated.
Just another example..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/ ... e-the-irs/
If he were in charge of travel, the Soup Nazi might say, “No Passport for you!” In real life, travel may seem unrelated to taxes, except perhaps for those annoying airport taxes on international destinations. But a bigger tax and travel connection could keep you at home—permanently.
A tax law quietly proposed a few months ago—Owe IRS Taxes, Lose Your Passport—is quietly gaining momentum. Now more people have noticed. If you owe the IRS? You’re not going anywhere if this law passes. In America, we love to tinker with our tax laws. Congress is always introducing one bill or another to tweak an already bloated and increasingly dysfunctional tax system.
It’s curious how ingredients go into the sausage, often making strange legislative bedfellows. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) proposed that if you owe the IRS more then $50,000, you shouldn’t get a passport. See Sen. Orrin Hatch’s Memo to Reporters and Editors. Now this ‘we-need-the-money’ provision has morphed into Senate Bill 1813, introduced by Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA). It was introduced in November and passed by the Senate on March 14 “to reauthorize Federal-aid highway and highway safety construction programs, and for other purposes.”
At best, there seems a titular connection between this provision and highway safety. Nevertheless, the law would authorize the federal government to prevent Americans from leaving the country if they owe back taxes. It was Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid who proposed allowing the State Department to revoke, deny or limit passports for anyone the IRS certifies as having “a seriously delinquent tax debt in an amount in excess of $50,000.”
Does this apply in all cases? Mercifully no. You could travel if your tax debt is being paid in a timely manner or in emergency circumstances or for humanitarian reasons. But this isn’t limited to criminal tax cases or situations where the government fears someone is fleeing a tax debt.
In fact, if the bill is passed you could have your passport revoked merely because you owe say $60,000 and the IRS has filed a notice of lien. Bear in mind that the IRS files tax liens routinely when you owe taxes—it’s just the IRS way of putting creditors on notice so the IRS will eventually get paid. See Tax Liens Means IRS Thinks You Owe. In that sense, this you-can’t-travel idea seems pretty extreme.
Some commentators note that a far smaller sum of unpaid child support can trigger the same kind of passport action. Why shouldn’t unpaid taxes, they argue? Others attack the proposal as potentially unconstitutional.
Stay tuned as this proposed law is debated.
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problem solved...
you're welcome...
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so by saying that you could cover all bases like ..
this one is simple...don't kill anyone and ...you won't be put to death by a state or federal prison.
really though it's a lot more than that..it's our government giving them selfs more control over the people
of our country and if something don't happen soon things will only get worse.
Godfather.
It's not that simple in some cases. You probably have no idea how many people.... Never mind you wouldn't even under stand. Put it this way. Some people that actually own corporations and don't work for someone else. Are struggling right now and may not be able to pay all of their taxes in oe lump sum. Can you at least comprehend that? And the fed gov doesn't have the right to deny a citizen if they want to travel outside of the country.
if they can't afford to pay their taxes...how can they afford travel outside the US...?
aren't we a nation of laws....?
no it wouldn't...pay your taxes...it's that simple...I know you want to toss in a bunch of what-ifs to fit your narrative...but this couldn't be more simple, pay your taxes and pass go....
why is that so hard to understand...?
gloom and doom....the sky is falling....the world will end if those who don't pay their taxes can't get a passport...
the people complaining about this in this country are the same people complaining about deficits.
you can't fix the deficit without taking in income.
why would anybody give a tax dodger a pass in a situation like this?
so pay your fucking obligations and THEN take your trip.
it's that simple.
people will attack me and say i have a problem with liberty or some crap along those lines. no, we live in a country of laws and one of those laws is to pay what you owe in taxes. if you don't do that then you should not get a passport. people can get arrested for unpaid parking tickets, why should owing taxes be any different than that?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04 ... 0-billion/
Godfather.
I sometimes wonder if you actually read all of the articles you post
If your own your own corporation, you need to make sure that you leave enough money in the corp so that you can make sufficient estimated tax payments and/or payroll tax deposits in order to avoid getting into a bad tax situation.
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U.S. taxpayers are now required to list their foreign bank accounts when filing their tax returns, so it is easier to get busted for tax fraud if you hide money offshore.
Activist Sheehan says she has court date today for refusing to pay taxes
Anti-war crusader Cindy Sheehan said she will appear in federal court today to defend her decision not to pay taxes.
"I refuse to fund the empire's crimes and wars," Sheehan said in a press release. "I feel a certain amount of guilt that my taxes were used to murder my own son."
Her website says that she has been asked to appear in court by the U.S. Attorney on behalf of the Internal Revenue Service.
In October, she told an Occupy Sacramento crowd that U.S. military spending is the reason for economic misery that prompted demonstrations around the nation.
She told the demonstrators that California taxpayers have contributed tens of billions of tax dollars toward "illegal and immoral wars" waged by the United States.
http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2012/04/activist-sheehan-says-she-has-court-date-today-for-refusing-to-pay-taxes.html
I reckon it may be quite an interesting 'Court appearance'.
How much of ones taxes (%) generally goes towards military spending/wars? 30-40%? I guess if one could - that % worth of funds from your taxes and pay the rest. That may work out, it could potentially be easier to defend that action in court. But this all involves taking a stand, which can be a lot of work, so just pay taxes and move on.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/4/12/war_and_taxes_with_40_of
btw in that same 'transportation bill' They are proposing,
SEC. 31406. VEHICLE EVENT DATA RECORDERS.
(a) Mandatory Event Data Recorders-
(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text
Godfather.
1- You make a lot of $$$$$$
2- you haven't been paying taxes in a long time .....
So?
Based on a very simple computaion, if an average person owes $50,000 in Federal taxes, it equates to taxable income of $180,000.
And it would be unfortunate to limit these peoples freedom to travel due to having the guts to not want to pay taxes towards the war machine and other waste. The very thing's that are so instrumental in bringing this world down.
(50k or more in back taxes)
I don't think this is something anyone living here can have the luxury of picking and choosing. Unfortunately, it's all or none. And those with the "guts" to not pay their taxes eventually put the burden on others.
pay your taxes.....
Yes yes of course, still pay towards the 'positive' things.
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How much of ones taxes (%) generally goes towards current military spending/wars? 30-40%? I guess if one could approx - that % worth of funds from ones taxes and just pay towards the 'positive' things.
Money is what our governments take notice of and as long as they continue to waste our tax dollars, It's probably right?fair?just? to take a stand in this way and stop payment of said taxes.
Our governments burden us by wasting our taxes. Trillions on war? Imagine trillions for health care? Education?
I dunno hedo, Like giving a child money, until they learn how to spend it, use it wisely and not waste it. They probably should not have it.
I guess when our governments mature enough, and start to aim our funds in a better direction, then perhaps I'd agree with the "just pay all your taxes" line.
i agree.. it is great if someone chooses not to pay their taxes as some sort of moral stand however dont expect to be able to travel internationallly if paying taxes is one of the provisos of that travel.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
like never coming back, leaving the government with the bag.
I would hope this is our governments thought/motive for restricting departure,
not a punishment or loss of personal freedom.
Taxes are really out of control though when one adds together, out of every dollar we make,
how much goes to them on all levels.
But not paying them is unwise ... someone close to me just had their bank accounts frozen.
If you want worries, mess with the government... he's been looking quite pale lately.
I have plenty of worry ... don't need more
I will struggle to pay my taxes and penalties on time like a good small business owner.
I'm neither left nor right; I go with what makes sense, to me. Definitely for limited government.
However, the way I see it, this isn't so much about government power but of people stepping up and being responsible like the rest of us - like most of us, I should say. No one is exempt, and if one feels they are, then that's one of the prices paid.
the federal government should reserve the right to determine if tax cheats, who are breaking the law by the way, can or can't leave the country. as someone said earlier, that can be viewed as the same thing as skipping out on your responsibilities as a citizen.
if someone wants to leave the country and skip out on their responsibilities, go for it. just do not complain to me that the big bad government is somehow infringing on your rights or not giving you due process when they arrest you when you try to come back...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://freebeacon.com/more-money-more-problems/
BY: Bill McMorris - April 18, 2012 12:41 pm
MSNBC’s Al Sharpton is reeling in debt and back taxes.
The liberal provocateur owes nearly $1 million to creditors and the federal government as a result of his failed bid for the 2004 Democratic presidential nomination.
His campaign’s unpaid bills exceed $888,000, according to federal filings.
It is unclear why Sharpton has not paid his creditors. He does not lack for income.
Sharpton has his own primetime talk show on liberal network MSNBC, a platform he used to drive the Trayvon Martin shooting story that rocked the nation and led to the arrest of Democratic neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman.
In August 2011, Sharpton took over the 6 p.m. slot from Keith Olbermann, who earned more than $4 million per year working in the same slot at the network. Sharpton also drew a $240,000 salary from his nonprofit group, National Action Network, in 2011 even as the group racked up nearly $1 million in unpaid federal payroll taxes, interest, and penalties.
NAN has dealt with major finance issues in the last few years. The nonprofit raised $3 million in 2010, and paid off its state back taxes in 2011, but still owed $883,000 in unpaid federal payroll taxes in December. The group also owed more than $200,000 in loans to one of Sharpton’s for-profit enterprises.
Sharpton, who has endorsed President Barack Obama’s calls for taxing the rich, has his own tax issues. He owed the IRS $2.6 million in income taxes in December 2011, as well as almost $900,000 in New York state taxes.
Sharpton financed his presidential run, in part, by borrowing large sums of money from his struggling nonprofit.
Sharpton borrowed more than $181,000 from NAN—money that is now supposed to be refunded. Sharpton also loaned $145,000 to the campaign to finance a fundraising push.
His largest creditor is the federal government; the campaign owes the Federal Elections Commission and the U.S. Treasury Department more than $225,000.
Sharpton could not capitalize on his national reputation as a rabble-rouser in the 2004 Democratic primary, losing out to Sen. John Kerry (D., Mass.). But he did make waves in the race, slamming then-frontrunner Howard Dean for not having enough minorities on his campaign—a charge that has also dogged the Obama campaign—during an Iowa debate.
Sharpton skipped out on debts big and small. In addition to the six figure sums he borrowed from his nonprofit and leveraged from campaign consultants, he has not paid a $0.33 charge to a group called Xpedite, as well as a $2.50 ATM fee to Amalgamated Bank.
Sharpton’s presidential committee owed more than $900,000 to creditors late in 2011, according to Politico, after paying down the $208,000 in civil penalties the campaign owed the FEC for “failing to report accurately all receipts and expenditures, receiving excessive and prohibited in-kind contributions and accepting impermissible corporate contributions,” according to the FEC. The campaign has established a payment schedule to address the fines for campaign violations and other federal charges, according to the FEC.
“Now that the civil penalties have been satisfied, the campaign is contacting vendors to construct a debt resolution plan that must be submitted to the FEC for approval,” spokeswoman Rachel Noerdlinger told Politico in November. “While Rev. Sharpton, as candidate, helped to raise the money to resolve the civil penalties, the additional debt will be reviewed by the campaign and remedied in accordance to FEC’s rules and regulations.”
Calls to Sharpton’s creditors have not been returned.
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