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Smashing Pumpkins Adore

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited April 2012 in Other Music
Whats everyones take on it. initially hated by fans, now its a cult classic, and the 3rd great SP album.

I think its a pretty powerful album. To Sheila has always gotten to me, especially the part with mandolins or is it a banjo where he says "lately i just cant seem to believe, discard my friends to change the scenery, it meant the world to hold a bruising faith, now its just a matter of grace". I cant tell you exactly what that means but i think its important.

and Shame is a pretty intense song. I love the vibe of the song. the distorted and eerie guitars. the feedback. Sounds like the noise of a life coming apart.

Anyone else like this album?
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  • BandagedHand77BandagedHand77 Posts: 96
    I think Adore is a fantastic album.

    In the run up to it being released I wondered how they could possibly follow Mellon Collie which i thought had everything and was so ambitious.

    I was really taken aback at how great Adore was.

    My housemate at the time wasn't much of a Smashing Pumpkins fan and it was this album that converted him.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Yeah it's a pretty awesome album. Perfect is exceptional. For Martha is another one of my favorites with drumming by the great Matt Cameron.
  • arqarq Posts: 8,034
    One of my favorite albums of all time, it was weird at the time but I never was a big SP fan but that record is amazing, I thought it was weird it was so hated at the time :?
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    arq wrote:
    One of my favorite albums of all time, it was weird at the time but I never was a big SP fan but that record is amazing, I thought it was weird it was so hated at the time :?

    The move to electronic pissed people off.
  • Thierry HenryThierry Henry Posts: 2,654
    It's you that I adore. You'll always be my whore! Haven't heard that album in years.

    Anyone pick up the remastered albums?
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  • curlycurly Posts: 703
    Have the cd...just never really gave it a chance....

    i was a sp finatic back in the day...

    not long after siamese came out...i spent months learning the lyrics...

    they were amazing...possibly still the best the this day...

    once i got em down...i mass produced copies of them...

    then started handing them out/...making people who like the band read em'...and they did..

    keepin people up til 4 or 5 am every weekend at every house party/rave we'd go too!!!

    then round the time of piecies escariat (sp)....they played a good size show here in omaha...

    i was like....YAAAAAAAAAA baby.....i made hundred of copies...

    and ya'll know this was way before the internet/cell phones/etc etc...very few new half of the lyrics??

    people thought i was nutz at the same time...they took the lyrics...

    then i got a lil older...mellon collie came and went...it was good..but not the same...

    but i dont know what happened....i lost it...they lost it?? whom knows...

    but i definately lost my connection with them at the same time it grew more an more for pj...

    so....i'll kick the dust off adore and pop it in tonight...i at least owe billy that for what he did for me!!!!
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    edited April 2012
    Adore is probably my favorite SP album, and to sheila has got to be the most powerful acoustic song ever written.

    Its also a pretty depressing album, and bittersweet for me. It came out when I was on vacation in south carolina with my family and my sister was a big SP fan. So she was playing the album alot during the vacation..... and then a hurricane came and we had to leave early ruining our vacation.
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  • curlycurly Posts: 703
    this is cool....now i'm kinda eager to hear it...
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Just went through it again. I think I'll play Machina next :thumbup:
  • randallanddarcyrandallanddarcy Posts: 813
    I got Melon Collie..., Adore and Machina all on their release dates. I didn't get into the Pumpkins until I saw them live for the first time at the Adelaide Big Day Out in February 1994. I got Siamese Dream and Gish a day or two after that show.

    I still have all the press clippings from 1994 until the band broke up. I remember the press leading up to Adore's release. The album was going to be acoustic, then it was going to be in the vein of '1979'. Billy was lost without Jimmy, and I think he did the best he could under the circumstances he found himself in. He'd sacked the only other member of the band he truly respected as a fellow musician (Jimmy), his mother died, and I *think* there were relationship issues with his wife, too.

    I found the *middle* of the album to be quite stellar, specifically, track 2 (Ava Adore) through to track 12 (Shame). Pug, ...Dusty and Pistol Pete, and Annie Dog are probably the highlights for me. Being such a massive Soundgarden fan, too, I remember being excited to here For Martha, as MC was on it, but I just didn't take to that song.

    I brought this on vinyl at the time. Like all Pumpkins vinyl releases from Mellon Collie... onwards, it's well worth getting. The whole thing is mixed in Mono. It's a double 12" in a gatefold sleeve. Side 4 is blank, and I think is laser-etched with some design that escapes my memory right now; or, it could just be blank and not laser-etched. (I might be getting the laser-etching part from the Mad Season LP; I think Adore's side 4 was just blank. Whatever it is, I remember never seeing a record like it before though. (I moved to Dublin in 2001-all my stuff prior to 2001 is in storage in Australia, so I haven't actually clapped eyes on this record in over a decade).

    It's an album one shouldn't really compare with other Pumpkins releases. When critiquing it, it should be discussed in context of the creative and personal crossroads Billy was at at that time of his life. I would hazard a guess that Billy would probably defend the album as it is, but if he had it to do over, with the benefit of hindsight, he might have approached the whole project a little differently. As a whole, it doesn't sound like an artist who is totally confident with what he is creating. I don't get that impression with the other 1990s Pumpkins releases.
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
    It's great,

    the 1998 tour was mezmoring. All the percussion they had and all the reworking of the songs it's incredible. Everyone needs to listen to it because it's so much better than all the electronic stuff they had..
  • rtwilli4rtwilli4 Posts: 261
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Adore is probably my favorite SP album, and to sheila has got to be the most powerful acoustic song ever written.

    Its also a pretty depressing album, and bittersweet for me. It came out when I was on vacation in south carolina with my family and my sister was a big SP fan. So she was playing the album alot during the vacation..... and then a hurricane came and we had to leave early ruining our vacation.

    Oh how sad for you - your vacation was ruined. That was likely one of the many hurricanes to fuck up my house!
  • Thierry HenryThierry Henry Posts: 2,654
    Got to see them on the melon collie tour ('96 I think). The start of the gig was fantastic. They were really at their peak.

    Unfortunately there was crowd trouble where a girl died & obviously the show was stopped. Very sad!

    Since then there was always a barrier at the front of the stage after the first 1000 or so people to stop ppl getting crushed.
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    Lisbon '06 (x2)
    Katowice '07
    London '07 '09 (x2), '10
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    Belfast '10
    PJ20 Alpine '11 (x2)
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  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    I still really love that album. Being a huge SP fan throughout most of my teenage years, this was one of my favorite records, and I never understood why people hated it so much.
    They kinda lost me with Machina...I just felt it didn't live up to their earlier works.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Thierry Henry wrote:
    Got to see them on the melon collie tour ('96 I think). The start of the gig was fantastic. They were really at their peak.

    Unfortunately there was crowd trouble where a girl died & obviously the show was stopped. Very sad!

    Since then there was always a barrier at the front of the stage after the first 1000 or so people to stop ppl getting crushed.

    Oh man, that would have been a crazy show. Mellon Collie is one of my favorites of all time.

    Sad to hear someone DIED! Wow...
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Kathi wrote:
    I still really love that album. Being a huge SP fan throughout most of my teenage years, this was one of my favorite records, and I never understood why people hated it so much.
    They kinda lost me with Machina...I just felt it didn't live up to their earlier works.
    '
    Machina is pretty weak though has some good ones, I of the Mourning, the Everlasting Gaze. The worst album they made was Zeitgeist. That thing is completely worthless to me.
  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    edited April 2012
    LOVE THIS ALBUM! :D one of those albums you can relax to, makes me think of travelling for some reason. 'Tear' is amazing, really dramatic and powerful. ;)
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  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Kathi wrote:
    I still really love that album. Being a huge SP fan throughout most of my teenage years, this was one of my favorite records, and I never understood why people hated it so much.
    They kinda lost me with Machina...I just felt it didn't live up to their earlier works.
    '
    Machina is pretty weak though has some good ones, I of the Mourning, the Everlasting Gaze. The worst album they made was Zeitgeist. That thing is completely worthless to me.

    Machina is BRILLIANT!! You clearly never got past the first 4 tracks...

    IT HAS ONE OF THE BEST PUMPKINS SONGS ON IT - THIS TIME!!!

    Glass and Ghost Children is just epic live omg..Blue Skies, With Every Light, Try Try Try, Wound, The Sacred and Profane

    Zeitgeist is still really good, it sucks on the album like for example they destroyed Starz and I was totally shocked to hear it in that form (I went to tonnes a shows before they released Zeitgeist and knew all the songs in the live way).

    Pumpkins are like my fave joint band with PJ and are really on par with em.
  • KathiKathi Posts: 1,828
    I'm not sure why, but Machina never worked for me. There are some good songs on it, but it's not masterpiece front to back like some of their other records. That, and it somehow never reached me on an emotional level, which is something I especially loved about Adore.
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    rtwilli4 wrote:
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    Adore is probably my favorite SP album, and to sheila has got to be the most powerful acoustic song ever written.

    Its also a pretty depressing album, and bittersweet for me. It came out when I was on vacation in south carolina with my family and my sister was a big SP fan. So she was playing the album alot during the vacation..... and then a hurricane came and we had to leave early ruining our vacation.

    Oh how sad for you - your vacation was ruined. That was likely one of the many hurricanes to fuck up my house!

    oh im sorry..... :roll:
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Brisk. wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Kathi wrote:
    I still really love that album. Being a huge SP fan throughout most of my teenage years, this was one of my favorite records, and I never understood why people hated it so much.
    They kinda lost me with Machina...I just felt it didn't live up to their earlier works.
    '
    Machina is pretty weak though has some good ones, I of the Mourning, the Everlasting Gaze. The worst album they made was Zeitgeist. That thing is completely worthless to me.

    Machina is BRILLIANT!! You clearly never got past the first 4 tracks...

    IT HAS ONE OF THE BEST PUMPKINS SONGS ON IT - THIS TIME!!!

    Glass and Ghost Children is just epic live omg..Blue Skies, With Every Light, Try Try Try, Wound, The Sacred and Profane

    Zeitgeist is still really good, it sucks on the album like for example they destroyed Starz and I was totally shocked to hear it in that form (I went to tonnes a shows before they released Zeitgeist and knew all the songs in the live way).

    Pumpkins are like my fave joint band with PJ and are really on par with em.

    To each his own
  • dustinparduedustinpardue Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,829
    would have been a classic if jimmy chaimberlain had played drums on it
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