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Looks like it's Romney, thoughts from fellow conservatives?

drinkbigredinsteaddrinkbigredinstead Posts: 2,240
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With the recent endorsements it appears Romney is our man. Thoughts from fellow conservatives?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    It pains me to think that Romney will be the nominee. It has nothing to do with him not being "conservative" enough, and everything to do with the fact that he has been called in the media the presumptive nominee from the start. Every candidate who got near the top was compared to Romney...ask people why they support him...most will say it is because he has the best chance of winning(talk about circular logic) and not because they believe in what he believes(what does he believe exactly)...the media driven two party system wins again if he is the nominee...and that is what hurts the most. This nomination is the self-fulling prophecy...can anyone explain to me why he is the best candidate?

    How about you, what are your thoughts?

    but this could just be the bitter ramblings of the candidate who shall not be named... :lol:
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    Seems like he just doesn't make that visceral connection to people, a la Dole, Gore, Kerry. As opposed to the Reagans, Clintons, GWB, Palin, Obama (and these visceral connections cut both ways, obviously). People will vote for him if they can't stand Obama, not because they really like Romney.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I'm registered as Independent because I can't stand the labelling thing (although I appreciate the wonderful irony of having to assign myself to a particular party).

    Definitely fiscally conservative as well as in other aspects. And then, fairly liberal on other issues.

    Hmmm.

    Anyway, I'm not for the re-election of Obama, so...I feel a bit stuck. As mentioned here by others, I don't want to vote for someone just by default.

    That said, I have much respect for Rubio, a la his endorsement.

    Just not sure which way I'm gonna go at this point as it's still a bit early to commit one way or the other.

    Keeping the mind-door open for now.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    hedonist wrote:
    I'm registered as Independent because I can't stand the labelling thing (although I appreciate the wonderful irony of having to assign myself to a particular party).

    Definitely fiscally conservative as well as in other aspects. And then, fairly liberal on other issues.

    Hmmm.

    Anyway, I'm not for the re-election of Obama, so...I feel a bit stuck. As mentioned here by others, I don't want to vote for someone just by default.

    That said, I have much respect for Rubio, a la his endorsement.

    Just not sure which way I'm gonna go at this point as it's still a bit early to commit one way or the other.

    Keeping the mind-door open for now.


    Look at Gary Johnson...he may not win, but the more support we can throw around OUTSIDE of the two party system in the end will be more beneficial to our country than who the president is at any given point, in my opinion of course.

    I kind of want to start a party that has no platform, maybe not even a candidate...but instead will vote for someone and not against someone else...that really is the only thing I care about anymore...Seems like the only way to beat the two major parties at their own game is simply quit playing with them...

    It will be called the positive party and we will hold rallies that discuss all candidates and their actual positions. Not a negative word aloud in about the other guys...only positivity about a particular candidate can be spoken...
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Seems like he just doesn't make that visceral connection to people, a la Dole, Gore, Kerry. As opposed to the Reagans, Clintons, GWB, Palin, Obama (and these visceral connections cut both ways, obviously). People will vote for him if they can't stand Obama, not because they really like Romney.

    This election reminds me a lot of 2004... Democrats ran a wealthy, sometimes smug, candidate, with no real concrete positions, and their main rallying cry was that he wasn't Bush. Sounds exactly what 2012 will be like.
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  • drinkbigredinsteaddrinkbigredinstead Posts: 2,240
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    It pains me to think that Romney will be the nominee. It has nothing to do with him not being "conservative" enough, and everything to do with the fact that he has been called in the media the presumptive nominee from the start. Every candidate who got near the top was compared to Romney...ask people why they support him...most will say it is because he has the best chance of winning(talk about circular logic) and not because they believe in what he believes(what does he believe exactly)...the media driven two party system wins again if he is the nominee...and that is what hurts the most. This nomination is the self-fulling prophecy...can anyone explain to me why he is the best candidate?

    How about you, what are your thoughts?

    but this could just be the bitter ramblings of the candidate who shall not be named... :lol:


    I'm not thrilled with Romney either. I don't care for the anyone-but- Obama stance as that is what got us into this mess to begin with, however a vote for a third party won't get Obama out of office.

    People wanted anyone but Bush and the country is worse now then before on so many levels.

    Don't even get me started on the media....Obama comes out and uses a boys coffin as his soap box, doesn't condemn the bounty placed on a man that is innocent until proven guilty and nothing is said. Obama tells Russia to wait until after the election and it's ignored.....

    :|
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:

    Don't even get me started on the media....Obama comes out and uses a boys coffin as his soap box, doesn't condemn the bounty placed on a man that is innocent until proven guilty and nothing is said. Obama tells Russia to wait until after the election and it's ignored.....

    :|

    if all of these items you mentioned were "ignored", how do you know about them...?
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    It pains me to think that Romney will be the nominee. It has nothing to do with him not being "conservative" enough, and everything to do with the fact that he has been called in the media the presumptive nominee from the start. Every candidate who got near the top was compared to Romney...ask people why they support him...most will say it is because he has the best chance of winning(talk about circular logic) and not because they believe in what he believes(what does he believe exactly)...the media driven two party system wins again if he is the nominee...and that is what hurts the most. This nomination is the self-fulling prophecy...can anyone explain to me why he is the best candidate?

    How about you, what are your thoughts?

    but this could just be the bitter ramblings of the candidate who shall not be named... :lol:


    I'm not thrilled with Romney either. I don't care for the anyone-but- Obama stance as that is what got us into this mess to begin with, however a vote for a third party won't get Obama out of office.

    People wanted anyone but Bush and the country is worse now then before on so many levels.

    Don't even get me started on the media....Obama comes out and uses a boys coffin as his soap box, doesn't condemn the bounty placed on a man that is innocent until proven guilty and nothing is said. Obama tells Russia to wait until after the election and it's ignored.....

    :|
    But it will allow me to sleep at night knowing I voted in what I believed in, not who they told me had a chance to win...to me and many others, there is no difference between Obama and Romney. One drives the car off the cliff at 20 mph and the other at 60....what is the difference in the result? You cannot tell me that someone who is only willing to increase spending by a little less than the other guy is all that much better...I don't care what he spends the money on...it is that deficit mentality that has devalued the dollar so much that everything costs more almost by the day it would seem.

    Speaking of media ignoring...Ron Paul had a rally yesterday in madison, Gingrich did as well...gingrich talked to a few hundred, Paul to 5200...what story do you think made national news...fucking pathetic...let's keep reporting on people who inspire no one, who talk to the same blue haired folks that have been alienating younger voters for years with dirty tricks at every level and social conservatism that seeks to keep rights away from people and alienate groups of voters that may be conservative. But a 76 year old man who gets 20 year old kids interested in politics...fuck him...Dammit, I promised myself I wouldn't go down this spiral again...help, someone through me a life vest...I am about to waste another day pissed about the ridiculous coverage of ron paul.

    ok back on track. Romney may be slightly better, but in no way to I trust him. I will not vote for someone I do not trust no matter what party they are from...
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Just please choose Ron Paul as his VP ...
    then I would consider it.

    Otherwise I'll be waiting and watching to see how the economy is doing at election time,
    which I am assuming will be even better yet.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    this thread proves the fallacy of conservatives ... obama worst than bush!??? ... romney better than obama!?? ... take off the partisan goggles for a second and try and be objective ... turn off cnn, fox and all that shit ...

    it's like conservatives forget the absurdity of the bush administration or the fact obama ran against a sell out who brought on a dufus for a running mate ... they don't see that the GOP has spent the last 4 years basically screwing obama over instead of trying to help americans ... good grief man ... now romney!?? ... really!????? ...

    yeah ... i'm a socialist but i'd vote 3rd party before all these other corporate lackeys ... and i have said from the get-go that peeps should vote for ron paul ... still ... if the choice is obama or romney - i don't see how anyone can vote for romney ...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    polaris_x wrote:
    this thread proves the fallacy of conservatives ...

    Only thing it proves is you can't read. :lol:
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  • drinkbigredinsteaddrinkbigredinstead Posts: 2,240
    inmytree wrote:
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:

    Don't even get me started on the media....Obama comes out and uses a boys coffin as his soap box, doesn't condemn the bounty placed on a man that is innocent until proven guilty and nothing is said. Obama tells Russia to wait until after the election and it's ignored.....

    :|

    if all of these items you mentioned were "ignored", how do you know about them...?

    Hope this clears up my post for you.

    ignore - verb
    Definition of IGNORE

    1to fail to give proper attention to <ignoring your health now will haunt you further down the road>
    Synonyms bypass, disregard, forget, ignore, overlook, overpass, pass over, slight, slur (over)

    Related Words fail; miss, omit; brush (aside or off), reject, shrug off, slough (off) also sluff (off); disdain, scorn; scant, skimp

    If you are not concerned by Obama asking Russia to wait until after the election on a topic there isn't much more I can say.
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,725
    polaris_x wrote:
    this thread proves the fallacy of conservatives ... obama worst than bush!??? ... romney better than obama!?? ... take off the partisan goggles for a second and try and be objective ... turn off cnn, fox and all that shit ...

    it's like conservatives forget the absurdity of the bush administration or the fact obama ran against a sell out who brought on a dufus for a running mate ... they don't see that the GOP has spent the last 4 years basically screwing obama over instead of trying to help americans ... good grief man ... now romney!?? ... really!????? ...

    yeah ... i'm a socialist but i'd vote 3rd party before all these other corporate lackeys ... and i have said from the get-go that peeps should vote for ron paul ... still ... if the choice is obama or romney - i don't see how anyone can vote for romney ...

    So your a socialist and prefer Obama to Romney - SHOCKED!

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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Indifference wrote:
    So your a socialist and prefer Obama to Romney - SHOCKED!

    i'm a socialist that prefers ron paul over obama as well ...
  • IndifferenceIndifference Posts: 2,725
    polaris_x wrote:
    Indifference wrote:
    So your a socialist and prefer Obama to Romney - SHOCKED!

    i'm a socialist that prefers ron paul over obama as well ...

    Well we can agree on that!

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
    If Romney were conservative the way I am (as in conservationist I be happy to hear it's Romney. Not likely I'll be celebrating however. (Yes, I also like to conservatively wreck grammar now and then. 8-) )
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    One has to be delusional if they really think getting a different person in office will make one bit of difference. The system will never change by voting a different scapegoat in.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,428
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One has to be delusional if they really think getting a different person in office will make one bit of difference. The system will never change by voting a different scapegoat in.

    That seems to be the case. Sad but true.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    Some funny stuff in this thread.

    Media ignores Ron Paul's 5,200 people rallies because he later will get fewer than 5,200 actual votes. :lol:

    I saw that Obama whispering thing a million times, and him talking about the Florida thing. Don't know which media outlet is ignoring any of that? :?

    "I'm going to wait and see how the economy is to figure out who I vote for." Why? Just because unemployment or gas prices or whatever got better or worse at a certain time doesn't necessarily make the incumbent president better or worse. That's a strange way to vote.
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    brianlux wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One has to be delusional if they really think getting a different person in office will make one bit of difference. The system will never change by voting a different scapegoat in.

    That seems to be the case. Sad but true.

    i 100% diasagree. i think the world would be a much better place if mcgovern, carter, gore, or kerry would have won. i guess that makes me not only delusional but a partisan.. :D
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    brianlux wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One has to be delusional if they really think getting a different person in office will make one bit of difference. The system will never change by voting a different scapegoat in.

    That seems to be the case. Sad but true.

    It's just a matter of who we see on TV all the time. Overall our lives will change little based on who wins the election. But some things will probably be a little different.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,215
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    One has to be delusional if they really think getting a different person in office will make one bit of difference. The system will never change by voting a different scapegoat in.

    That seems to be the case. Sad but true.

    It's just a matter of who we see on TV all the time. Overall our lives will change little based on who wins the election. But some things will probably be a little different.

    I agree , really how much has changed in our lives since Obama has been the president ? my life has been the same for the last 15yrs ......But with that being said if you were to tell me the only choice is either Obama or Romney i would have to go with Obama ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    I like Romney as much as I like Obama... Yeah... I'm fiscally conservative and pretty damn liberal in my social stances... Overall I would say I like Gary Johnson the most but I am going to stick with Ron Paul this time.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    "I'm going to wait and see how the economy is to figure out who I vote for." Why? Just because unemployment or gas prices or whatever got better or worse at a certain time doesn't necessarily make the incumbent president better or worse. That's a strange way to vote.
    Not when you own a small business with little families depending on you...

    don't want to rock their little life boats :D

    The economy IS better cause it is Obama's election year and that might continue
    through at least next year maybe more...

    last thing I'd want to do is stick a pin in the bubble
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:

    Don't even get me started on the media....Obama comes out and uses a boys coffin as his soap box, doesn't condemn the bounty placed on a man that is innocent until proven guilty and nothing is said. Obama tells Russia to wait until after the election and it's ignored.....

    :|

    if all of these items you mentioned were "ignored", how do you know about them...?

    Hope this clears up my post for you.

    ignore - verb
    Definition of IGNORE

    1to fail to give proper attention to <ignoring your health now will haunt you further down the road>
    Synonyms bypass, disregard, forget, ignore, overlook, overpass, pass over, slight, slur (over)

    Related Words fail; miss, omit; brush (aside or off), reject, shrug off, slough (off) also sluff (off); disdain, scorn; scant, skimp

    If you are not concerned by Obama asking Russia to wait until after the election on a topic there isn't much more I can say.


    based on this information it seems you were incorrect in claiming the media is ignoring O-bama...

    thanks for clearing that up....
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    pandora wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    "I'm going to wait and see how the economy is to figure out who I vote for." Why? Just because unemployment or gas prices or whatever got better or worse at a certain time doesn't necessarily make the incumbent president better or worse. That's a strange way to vote.
    Not when you own a small business with little families depending on you...

    don't want to rock their little life boats :D

    The economy IS better cause it is Obama's election year and that might continue
    through at least next year maybe more...

    last thing I'd want to do is stick a pin in the bubble

    Oakie doakie. ;)
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    inmytree wrote:
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:

    Don't even get me started on the media....Obama comes out and uses a boys coffin as his soap box, doesn't condemn the bounty placed on a man that is innocent until proven guilty and nothing is said. Obama tells Russia to wait until after the election and it's ignored.....

    :|

    if all of these items you mentioned were "ignored", how do you know about them...?

    FoxNews... :D but really I hear what he's saying,these stories got just a small flash in the news but no follow up on corrective action by the media or any offered by Obama.

    Godfather.
  • drinkbigredinsteaddrinkbigredinstead Posts: 2,240
    edited April 2012
    Inmytree ...bless your heart, you poor thing.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    drinkbigredinstead wrote:
    Inmytree ...bless you heart, you poor thing.

    :lol:

    you don't understand the word "ignore" and I'm the "poor thing"...

    keep fucking that chicken... :thumbup:
  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Someone who claims to be an outsider but is getting endorsed by all the insiders. Hmm gee what does that tell us ? It tells me that it will be more bussiness as usual in washington. More debt that our children and grandchildren are going to have to face.

    Not to mention the guy has changed his political philosphy several times just in the last 10 years. He ran as center right progressive, a moderate and now he's a conservative. :roll: And what kind of principaled conservative would sighn into law "Romney Care "


    Im truly worried about this next election. Bcos If Obama wins you can kiss our Republic goodbye, what's left of it anyway.
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