Billy Corgan Interview: The Awakening Has Begun
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This is such a breath of Fresh air to actually hear an artist Like B.Corgan stand up for" liberty"and to be for LIMITED CONSTITUTIONAL GOV and to speak out against "Wealth Redistribution .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... kyfhABWug#!
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I'll check this out when I get home.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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Not American but still interesting.
And I'm liking this interview. Mr. Corgan is an intelligent and well-spoken fellow, making some excellent points.
Thanks again!
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No different than most of us here (minus the exposure but perhaps including the time
What a load of BS, so someone who comes out and speaks about an issue means that they self appoint themselves? I don't see anyone else doing it either.
Plus he says at least once he isn't the leader of all this or the person to do it, he's just asking questions n thinking.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Does that make Eddie Vedder, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, etc. "self-appointed politicians/saviours" too?
C'mon, man. Nothing wrong with asking questions, whether they come from Corgan, Beck, or you.
No need to villify anyone for doing so.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
wuh, why did Glenn Beck get dragged into this? (can not watch the video at the moment)
— Socrates
Not sure where Glenn Beck comes into play though... :?
I think he's got a good head on his shoulders. I may not agree with everything he says, but he has got a lot of things right. He continually states that he is mostly advocating open discussions and debate of any and all issues. Nothing wrong with that.
He comments on how some social leaders (celebrities) are marginalized in this era. Dylan, Lennon, Uncle Neil....their protest songs and statements were crucial to social movements in the 60's and 70's. They were respected by the counterculture, and had a positive impact. Nowadays, everyone wants them to 'shut up and entertain', as if an artist has nothing of importance to add to public discourse. As he points out, his success opens certain 'corridors of power',....I've made this point a few times around here when people tell Eddie to 'shut up and sing'.....how much leisure time do you have to spend on researching topics of importance to you? How often do you have the undivided attention of a guy like Zinn or Chomsky? How many times have you bent the ear of a Pres or VP? They may not be university educated poli-sci majors, but they have been able to pick some pretty enlightened brains, and some are actually very intelligent people....so I, for one, am interested in what they have to say.
The one thing that bothered me in the interview was that Corgan copped out on writing protest songs by saying their isnt an audience for that kind of thing anymore.....that doesnt' exactly jive with his comments about artistic integrity in the music industry, and the importance of social commentary by artists.
I listened to an interview AJ did with Neil Fallon of Clutch a while back, and the same thing struck me with him: how well both were able to deflect AJ when he started going off on some of his more out-there tangents.
calm down a bit. I'm just tired of hearing him spout the same old rhetoric over and over.
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good god. what a horrible comparison. the big difference is you don't see the above 3 trying to fix the industry that they make money from. I've never heard of any of those 3 complain that they dont' want to make albums anymore because Britney Spears is too popular. they are worrying about the safety and freedom and economics of others, not themselves.
I've been agreeing with BC this whole time, only problem is, he won't shut up until someone listens. He complained at SXSW that Radiohead didn't pioneer the free download, he did. The big thing with him is that he tried to do something different with the free music but pay for big time packaging, and it failed, and now he's jealous because it is confirming for him what he knows. he will never have the devout following of Radiohead or NIN. He just won't. I love SP. I love everything Billy has done. But there aren't many of us left.
He thinks it's the industry. It's not. many bands are still successful. He's not and it's drving him nuts.
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not according to the merriam-webster dictionary it's not
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictiona ... ratization
transitive verb
: to subject to corporate ownership or control <afraid that medicine was becoming corporatized>
— cor·po·rat·i·za·tion noun
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Spell check says "no". Stupid computer!
Thanks, Pepe!!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
What about PJ vs. Ticketmaster?
What about the contracts these people/bands/businessmen have negotiated and have in place that assure they're compensated adequately or moreso for their work?
Granted I don't know much about Corgan, but in this interview, he didn't strike me at all as bitter over a lack of following. He struck me as someone who doesn't give much care to that end and was trying - doing a good job too, to me - of getting his points across.
As my 8 year old daughter would say, "If you don't like him, don't watch him". Simple as that.
And in the interview BC talked about Rush Limbaugh and the whole free speech issue. Certainly, you have free speech to diss BC, Hugh, or you just don't have to listen to him in the first place.
I agree with the fact that the music industry business model no longer works. I just think we need to consider the source. This guy wouldn't be complaining about the state of the music industry if his latest idea to revolutionize it had worked for him. Case and point.
I've never heard the guy EVER talk about any band other than his own with regards to these issues. That's all I was trying to say.
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this issue had nothing to do with PJ's profits. It had everything to do with them trying to get ticket prices decreased for their fans. Not increasing their own profits.
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with all due respect to your 8 year old, I watch things that interest me. Billy Corgan's work interests me. I'm a huge fan, as I stated before. I shut it off after I realized what he was spouting off about, and how long the interview was.
And I could easily say the same thing back to you. if you dont' like what I have to say, you just don't have to read my posts in the first place. See how silly that sounds? I prefer an open dialogue, personally.
I think he is a very intelligent, well researched, and educated human being. I'm not saying he doesn't make good points. All I said was I was tired of hearing about the same damn thing over and over from him. So I turned it off.
Not sure why this caused such a stir. It wasn't intended that way.
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Thanks for that last paragraph. The way you came across in your first post was general Billy Corgan bashing. Which is fine, that's your opinion. I just thought it was really negative after listening to the entire interview, and he didn't seem at all that bad; he raised some great points to think about.
too many people around here assume way to much off way too little. this just might be the last straw for me. I can't take this crap anymore.
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It's the way you came across. I wasn't assuming anything, but the context in which we write is very important seeing that we don't know how the writer feels when they write their words. That's the problem with written word, we can't hear the tone of your voice.