Taking Liberties:

WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
edited March 2012 in A Moving Train
Little by little.. :( We all need to realize no matter what our politics are and look whats happening to our country. And the politicians are trying to get us all worked up over contraceptives. Contraceptives ? Are there not more important health issues we should worry about ? They are doing everything they can to dumb us all down and they are doing a pretty damn good job I might add.

NO SPEECH ZONES ? WHAT NEXT? :evil:


The First Amendment and the right to protest
By Douglas Kennedy


Harold Hodge believes in the power of protest.
“It’s important,” he said as he walked on First Street in front of the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court. "I believe people should have the right to protest and picket against the government.”
But, he says, it’s a right that is disappearing.
“They,” he said, as he pointed up at the white columns, “are taking it away from us.”
In January 2011, Hodge was standing on the public plaza above the steps of the court wearing a sign around his neck. It read “The U.S. Gov. allows police to illegally murder and brutalize African-Americans and Hispanic people."
Video of him shows he was still and quiet and more than 100 feet from the Court entrance. Nonetheless, officers arrested him, charging him with violating a so-called “no speech zone.”
“These things are popping up all over the country,” said John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, which is defending Hodge in court, “where people can only speak when they are pushed away to the side.”
“I’m astounded,” he said. “Especially when you see the footage of Harold Hodge standing silently with no one else around. He wasn’t blocking anybody’s egress. He wasn’t talking to anybody. If you can’t do this in front of the Supreme Court, there’s no such thing as free speech.”
Whitehead says officials have been increasingly implementing “no speech zones” around government buildings and important government events, like political conventions.
“This is a dangerous trend that's been going on for a number of years,” he said. “Putting people so far away from government officials that government officials can't hear the speech. Well that means the First Amendment means nothing, They are destroying the First Amendment.”
“Not so,” said Tom Ruskin, a law enforcement advocate who calls no-speech zones “necessary.”
“We are not limiting free speech in front of the Supreme Court or anywhere else. We are simply moving the demonstrators back so they don’t interfere with securing the area.”
He says the zones are nothing new.
“Law enforcement has consistently moved people to better areas for them to demonstrate.”
Ruskin points out that protesters should not have the right to disrupt government business.
“People need to enter the buildings and leave the building.”
“[Police] are just moving the protesters back for everyone’s safety.”
It’s not a good argument,” said Rutherford. “The people you are petitioning have to be in some sort of range. In other words, somebody has to be able to read your sign. If they put you so far away that the government officials can’t hear you, free speech has no effect.”
Hodge says he just wants some acknowledgement.
“I want someone to listen to me,” he said. “I want someone to see me.”
Hodge faces up to 60 days in jail and a $500 dollar fine.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03 ... z1oYASTHfF
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Comments

  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    HR 347 is a joke and is written in a way that over generalizes. got passed by an overwhelming majority in the house...what a joke...
    And we fall one notch lower on the slippery slope...if not after the patriot act, NDAA, hr 347, at what point should we get worried?
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • bigdvsbigdvs Posts: 235
    This is a huge problem, if I am understanding the vagueness of the wording, you could now be arrested for walking into a "safe zone" rather then being asked to leave. So one second you are outside their determined range and the next second you are within some arbitrary boundry. Its nuts.

    D2T
    "The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
    — Socrates

  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    It is dangerous because if you take away their right to peaceful protest, you don't stop protest, you start violent protest in my opinion.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    It is dangerous because if you take away their right to peaceful protest, you don't stop protest, you start violent protest in my opinion.


    that is a great point
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    HR 347 is a joke and is written in a way that over generalizes. got passed by an overwhelming majority in the house...what a joke...
    And we fall one notch lower on the slippery slope...if not after the patriot act, NDAA, hr 347, at what point should we get worried?


    we should've been worried a long time ago but instead we choose to pick teams and stand by them regardless.
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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