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rrivers wrote:

Quite a few times, I would fold and then he would follow me and fold to the person sitting out! He was complaining a lot about the person sitting out while I'm thinking, this is great! One less person to play against and free blinds!

small raise steals the blind :fp:

mca47

DS1119 wrote:

81 wrote:

I'm on the opposite side. K/Q is a bad calling hand. It's a good raising hand but preflop if someone goes all in ahead of you you need to assume they have at least an ace or a pair. Either way your automatically a dog. I don't know the dynamics of last nights hand but that's my 2 cents.

I agree. The only time I'd make that call is if I was short-stacked. He definitely wasn't and I don't recall Speedy bluffing that wild last night either.

rrivers

81 wrote:

KQ isn't an aweful hand to call with, depending on what he thinks you have. maybe he thought you were full on bluffing...i dunno....it's been a bit since i've played vs speedy....so i've somewhat forgotten his MO.

i just despise the post flop raise when it's three handed and one guy is all in and the guy raising has nothing but a draw or maybe a pair. GOTTA check that shit out. Unless you have a very good hand, you want the other non all in person in the game to increase the odds of knocking out the all in guy.

Yeah or betting during that same scenario on the flop, turn, or river if you don't have a monster hand.

mca47

rrivers wrote:

Quite a few times, I would fold and then he would follow me and fold to the person sitting out! He was complaining a lot about the person sitting out while I'm thinking, this is great! One less person to play against and free blinds!

I won one last night like that.
Decent hand, flop was crap, I checked, they folded.

WIN!

rrivers

81 wrote:

rrivers wrote:

Quite a few times, I would fold and then he would follow me and fold to the person sitting out! He was complaining a lot about the person sitting out while I'm thinking, this is great! One less person to play against and free blinds!

small raise steals the blind :fp:

Exactly!

DS1119

mca47 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

81 wrote:

I'm on the opposite side. K/Q is a bad calling hand. It's a good raising hand but preflop if someone goes all in ahead of you you need to assume they have at least an ace or a pair. Either way your automatically a dog. I don't know the dynamics of last nights hand but that's my 2 cents.

I agree. The only time I'd make that call is if I was short-stacked. He definitely wasn't and I don't recall Speedy bluffing that wild last night either.

Speedy bluffs wildly every night.

PJ_ROCKS

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=pocket j's vs. q-k offsuit&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CF0QFjAD&url=http://www.g-index.net/poker_texas_preflop_hand.htm&ei=j47oT53EHaPo2AXcy-meDg&usg=AFQjCNG3gtRreLTx2vaoeCBdXvEZQnhx_w

Q-K offsuit?
To CALL? An All-in bet?

Really?

was this different then what you had, K-10 offsuit when you called me, I had pocket J's the week before last!!! and you hit the river for a straight.

its all good, i was just asking.

mca47

DS1119 wrote:

Speedy bluffs wildly every night.

Yeah, it was just a weird situation to call him then. When he called, I was like "Really?". Then the cards were shown and it was :fp: -time! hahahaha

mca47

PJ_ROCKS wrote:

was this different then what you had, K-10 offsuit when you called me, I had pocket J's the week before last!!! and you hit the river for a straight.

its all good, i was just asking.

He knocked me out last week on something similar. But I was short-stacked and he was doing pretty good at the time so he didn't have much to lose.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

mca47 wrote:

PJ_ROCKS wrote:

was this different then what you had, K-10 offsuit when you called me, I had pocket J's the week before last!!! and you hit the river for a straight.

its all good, i was just asking.

He knocked me out last week on something similar. But I was short-stacked and he was doing pretty good at the time so he didn't have much to lose.

Different situations..

Against BOTH of you..
I was chip leader and only putting up a small percentage of my chips to make a call...And hopefully knock you out...Right?

Calling each of you was NOT putting MYSELF all in...Right? YOU were both all in. Right?

Or am I old and senile? hehehe

PJ_ROCKS

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

mca47 wrote:

PJ_ROCKS wrote:

was this different then what you had, K-10 offsuit when you called me, I had pocket J's the week before last!!! and you hit the river for a straight.

its all good, i was just asking.

He knocked me out last week on something similar. But I was short-stacked and he was doing pretty good at the time so he didn't have much to lose.

Different situations..

Against BOTH of you..
I was chip leader and only putting up a small percentage of my chips to make a call...And hopefully knock you out...Right?

Calling each of you was NOT putting MYSELF all in...Right? YOU were both all in. Right?

Or am I old and senile? hehehe

you missed the point, its all good!

but you still called with K-10 offsuit :P

mca47

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Different situations..

Against BOTH of you..
I was chip leader and only putting up a small percentage of my chips to make a call...And hopefully knock you out...Right?

Calling each of you was NOT putting MYSELF all in...Right? YOU were both all in. Right?

Or am I old and senile? hehehe

No, you're right. We talked about that many posts back. When on top, it's easy to call someone low-stacked. And there is noting wrong with it as ther is nothing to lose. I was referring to the "MCA always gets bit making the right call"...except for that one time in 12+ games kinda thing. Odds, schmods. Hahaha

He called you out of place and should have lost (by 10% difference) but that's the shit of the game.

rrivers

I agree with Speedy about being a big stack being able to take chances.

I try to get into a lot of hands with crap hands that are drawing hands hoping I will get lucky and then can get paid off big. But I typically don't call raises with those hands. That's what I (and I think Speedy) finds frustrating: where someone sticks around with crap when you're representing a big hand and hit a card late.

DS1119

The one thing that frustrates me with online poker is not of lot of players respect position or even know the power of betting last. They also don't understand the blind situations. If I'm in the small blind...unless there's a huge raise I'm completing my bet and going from there. I don't think alot of players recognize this and fully understand how random these hands can be. I remember busting a guy out of a tourney in Vegas with j/7 after I completed my small blind bet. I flopped a full house and he pushed with his pocket k's. Sorry.

81

DS1119 wrote:

The one thing that frustrates me with online poker is not of lot of players respect position or even know the power of betting last. They also don't understand the blind situations. If I'm in the small blind...unless there's a huge raise I'm completing my bet and going from there. I don't think alot of players recognize this and fully understand how random these hands can be. I remember busting a guy out of a tourney in Vegas with j/7 after I completed my small blind bet. I flopped a full house and he pushed with his pocket k's. Sorry.

he should have popped it up preflop with the kings. make a decent bet, and you are folding j/7

on the flip side, as was beat to death earlier, so many people will with complete crap pre flop

DS1119

81 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

The one thing that frustrates me with online poker is not of lot of players respect position or even know the power of betting last. They also don't understand the blind situations. If I'm in the small blind...unless there's a huge raise I'm completing my bet and going from there. I don't think alot of players recognize this and fully understand how random these hands can be. I remember busting a guy out of a tourney in Vegas with j/7 after I completed my small blind bet. I flopped a full house and he pushed with his pocket k's. Sorry.

he should have popped it up preflop with the kings. make a decent bet, and you are folding j/7

on the flip side, as was beat to death earlier, so many people will with complete crap pre flop

It takes alot to push me off my blinds. I'm definately a defender.

Horos

DS1119 wrote:

81 wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

The one thing that frustrates me with online poker is not of lot of players respect position or even know the power of betting last. They also don't understand the blind situations. If I'm in the small blind...unless there's a huge raise I'm completing my bet and going from there. I don't think alot of players recognize this and fully understand how random these hands can be. I remember busting a guy out of a tourney in Vegas with j/7 after I completed my small blind bet. I flopped a full house and he pushed with his pocket k's. Sorry.

he should have popped it up preflop with the kings. make a decent bet, and you are folding j/7

on the flip side, as was beat to death earlier, so many people will with complete crap pre flop

It takes alot to push me off my blinds. I'm definately a defender.

That's not really taking position into account. When in the SB I always figure if I fold shit that leaves me half a bet to call with shit on the next hand when I have the button.

81

Horos wrote:

That's not really taking position into account. When in the SB I always figure if I fold shit that leaves me half a bet to call with shit on the next hand when I have the button.

if there is no raise, i'll call with anything from the small blind.

duly noted.

DS1119

Horos wrote:

That's not really taking position into account. When in the SB I always figure if I fold shit that leaves me half a bet to call with shit on the next hand when I have the button.

My stance is never give up on a hand when I have money invested until you're certain your beat.

peacefrompaul

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