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Why the youth vote will abandon President Obama...

inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
edited December 2012 in A Moving Train
...one more reason why Ron Paul is gathering so much youth interest:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/only-54-young-adults-america-have-job
Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Interesting statistics, thanks for sharing.
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    yeah. good luck with that.
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.
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  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Whatever, Ive warned you all about Ron Paul in about 20 different ways. Have fun with that road trip. But if you do it dont find me to bail you out of some pit cuz Im gonna say I told you so and leave you there.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    this is a interseting title to wake up to ..as I was going thru my e-mails and a very dear old friend(Gary M. retired) sent this to me and I just had to share it after reading the title of this thread,I'll watch the video when I get home.

    Godfather.


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    Gary
  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    stop being ridiculous we aint running that deal if you want to think you'll survive be my guest but it aint happenin not on my watch
  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    you can drive consciousness that way but its a failure... :mrgreen: have fun
  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    want to make money invest in dirty global mining which seems to be on the upswing right now... then make sure you give China the shake after you whiz out that deal
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Sarcasms.....whoda thunkit. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,460
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.

    It's funny. You are spot on about Santorum, yet allowing stupid 1 liners taken either out of context or overblown on the other. You got any more on Mitt?
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  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    IDK .... who does the thinkin around here? :lol: I never back myself up with boring facts all you'll get is an alluded sarcastic comment... based on the boring facts you already know. :lol:
  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Ive heard Santorum's wife has an on going affair with an abortion doctor. :o
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.


    It's funny. You are spot on about Santorum, yet allowing stupid 1 liners taken either out of context or overblown on the other. You got any more on Mitt?

    The strike against Mitt is that the republicans aren't even excited about him. They can run him as "Not Obama", but we saw how successful that was in 2004 with a lukewarm candidate who was "Not Bush".
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.


    you do realize that the youth may just not show up. They don't have to go to the other side to abandon President Obama...
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  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    according to stats in my a state he has an overwhelming vote over 80% which is good for a possible swing state also includes the youth vote.... :P good luck with that lie parade
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    is this a debate? it's so cryptic :lol:

    anywho... I think Ron Paul has a great chance to get the youth votes ...
    my youth that surrounds me like him fine ... he's the coolest

    Ron is not going to be the nominee so he needs to be the running mate
    then the GOP has a chance against Obama... just a chance though
    my opinion
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Back when I was a kid ;) it was very scary too, the economy bad...
    gas prices up, inflation, jobs tough to find, the draft ...



    We did fine, I would like to think the kids today have the same chance,
    this what I tell mine, each generation finds it's way.
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.


    I'm not arguing Paul will win. I think he "should" win. But, I know Mitt probably has this in the bag.

    That said, it's important to point out that Ron Paul is now (finally) beating Obama in polls, which Santorum and Gingrich are not:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ron-paul- ... ad-polling

    If Paul wins Washington this Saturday, he could would become more of a player in this race. His delegate count would overtake Gingrich, and be ever so slightly behind Santorum. He could then pass him and easily be in 2nd after Super Tuesday. Not arguing this will happen, but it could. I wouldn't completely count him out. Inflation, if it gets bad, blends right in with his arguments on the Fed.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • inlet13inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.

    you do realize that the youth may just not show up. They don't have to go to the other side to abandon President Obama...

    This was my point.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,084
    I wonder what the education level of the unemployed youth vote is as a percentage? You know high school only versus the snobs, I mean college educated. In the total labor force of unemployed, "college educated" is half, around 4.2 to 4.5%. Do I wish everyone who wanted a job could have one? Sure. Are we climbing out of the recession? I think so. And the youth vote, 18-24 hasn't historically bothered to vote in large enough numbers as a total percentage of those eligible to make a difference in an election. Can they help? Sure. But tilt it or decide it. No way. Independents, woman and seniors are the demographics that decide elections. At least so far anyway. And with the way the republicans have been attacking education, woman's rights and programs near and dear to seniors, the current bunch has a long road and a tough climb to beat the current president. A lot can change between now and election day, however.

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.
    I'm not sure how the (perceived) attractiveness of a spouse plays a part in this, on either side.

    And from what I've seen, our President has made some fairly divisive statements over his time in office.

    (yes, I'm aware many others have as well)
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    The youth vote is going to swing to Paul? So Obama is going to lose like 15 votes?
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    hedonist wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.
    I'm not sure how the (perceived) attractiveness of a spouse plays a part in this, on either side.

    And from what I've seen, our President has made some fairly divisive statements over his time in office.

    (yes, I'm aware many others have as well)

    Image does make a difference....
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.
    I'm not sure how the (perceived) attractiveness of a spouse plays a part in this, on either side.

    And from what I've seen, our President has made some fairly divisive statements over his time in office.

    (yes, I'm aware many others have as well)

    Image does make a difference....
    True for some, unfortunately.

    For me, how pretty/handsome (or not) one is, is separate from their character.
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.

    It's funny. You are spot on about Santorum, yet allowing stupid 1 liners taken either out of context or overblown on the other. You got any more on Mitt?

    Don't need anymore a out mitt.

    He's a clueless, snarky, entitled Mormon classist billionaire.

    This is a guy with a Swiss bank account and sons with $100-million trust funds. Yet he says things like "corporations are people" and "I'm unemployed."

    He's out of touch and clearly just in it for the power. Even republicans don't like him.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    For the record...

    Even Republicans don't like Ron Paul.

    And the youth vote is mostly left-leaning.

    And even if the youth vote would consider voting for a Republican... the nominee is going to be either an extreme right-wing freakshow whose claim to fame is saying that gay marriage will lead to dog and corpse f*cking(and a name synonymous with lube a sh*t) and a slime bag Mormon who makes $10,000 bets for kicks, brags about how his wife has "a couple of Cadillacs" and says he likes to fire people.

    Or a centrist Democrat with a pretty wife and nice kids who hasn't tried to pit Americans against each other.

    They're not going to have a chance to vote for Ron Paul. And they wouldn't if they did.

    It's funny. You are spot on about Santorum, yet allowing stupid 1 liners taken either out of context or overblown on the other. You got any more on Mitt?

    Don't need anymore a out mitt.

    He's a clueless, snarky, entitled Mormon classist billionaire.

    This is a guy with a Swiss bank account and sons with $100-million trust funds. Yet he says things like "corporations are people" and "I'm unemployed."

    He's out of touch and clearly just in it for the power. Even republicans don't like him.

    $100 milliom...shit I wish I was his son :lol: you can call me the Godson and I'd be happy as pig in a poke :lol:


    Godfather.......son :lol:
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