Why would you do such a thing President Obama?

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  • part of the reason I am getting out after this tour is I am sick of how they treat us. Not saying we should be treated like Kings but I feel the sacrifices we make are not valued as much as they should be by the decision makers. NOTE:: I am not saying we are not appreciated!! I could not have gotten through this tour in Afghanistan without this board and amazing people offering their support and words of encouragement. I am simply stating that the Government and the decision makers do not treat us with the respect that I, and all service members, feel we deserve.


    You are right sir and with that said I bet the politicians would feel a little different about dragging our asses into these wars if their sons and daughters were serving along side you. Also let me say that I have never served due to personal reasons,but I have so much respect for you guys and so do millions of Americans. It takes guts and personal sacrifice to be able to leave your family and loved ones not knowing if you will ever see them again.

    So I say thank you and tip my hat to you and all the other brave men and women who are serving.
    Godspeed and Godbless.. ;)
  • my opinion on the matter is probably going to be the most unpopular of all time, but conscription/the draft is no longer in place. people CHOOSE to serve. many because they have no other opportunity in life. the army is their income.

    I have no issue with medically taking care of those that come back maimed or injured (mentally or physically), but some intimate that veterans should be taken care of financially until their grave even no matter their history of duty.

    at some point everyone needs to take responsibility for their own choices. if they choose to remain in the military but retire from active tours/duty, then so be it. if they choose to leave, there should be civilain transition programs to help them get employment and reintigrated into civilian life.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    I believe people in the military should be taken care of.

    But.....I get tired of the rhetoric that they are there "protecting our freedoms". This is an American thing drilled into our psyche. There are a lot of free countries in the world who aren't out there killing other civiians to protect their freedoms.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    They are doing it because they don't have any money and politicians in Washington cannot work together to create a balanced budget. These measures have kicked in due to congresses inability to work together. Obama should not be singled out. Everyone on both sides should be held accountable.

    Congress can't work with the president and the president isn't working with Congress. It's hopeless.... We need some compromise.

    you realize you're saying the same thing as JaP, right...?

    and if you don't, therein lies the problem...
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    inmytree wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    They are doing it because they don't have any money and politicians in Washington cannot work together to create a balanced budget. These measures have kicked in due to congresses inability to work together. Obama should not be singled out. Everyone on both sides should be held accountable.

    Congress can't work with the president and the president isn't working with Congress. It's hopeless.... We need some compromise.

    you realize you're saying the same thing as JaP, right...?

    and if you don't, therein lies the problem...

    Brain fart.

    Thank you inmytree
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    Is this fixed yet?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Is this fixed yet?


    no......that dumbass onama is still president. :D


    Godfather.

  • Im military myself, and the troops knew that Bush had our backs. He was a rock star to the troops- I met him.

    :lol:

    You understand Bush's war was capitalist opportunity at work right? This has been documented over and over again. Have you missed this?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Godfather. wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Is this fixed yet?


    no......that dumbass onama is still president. :D


    Godfather.
    HA. So if I had a corporation that needed a new president I'd surely rather have Obama lead it than W or any republican nominees during last election.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Godfather. wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Is this fixed yet?


    no......that dumbass onama is still president. :D


    Godfather.

    The irony of this post is delicious
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    callen wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    WaveRyder wrote:
    Is this fixed yet?


    no......that dumbass onama is still president. :D


    Godfather.
    HA. So if I had a corporation that needed a new president I'd surely rather have Obama lead it than W or any republican nominees during last election.


    really ? well at least you could fire him after he spent all your money,we're stuck with for a while.

    Godfather.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Can one who doesn't grasp grade school grammar call someone a dumbass?
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,479
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Can one who doesn't grasp grade school grammar call someone a dumbass?
    i've got a master's and i still screw up grammar and spelling all the time. i don't even use caps for fucks sake.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Can one who doesn't grasp grade school grammar call someone a dumbass?
    i've got a master's and i still screw up grammar and spelling all the time. i don't even use caps for fucks sake.

    You also don't call other people a dumbass