Spike in rhino poaching threatens survival of species

gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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sad world we live in that people can be so cruel.. we are going to lose one of the most majestic animals in the world. all this for a horn that has no medicinal benefit to humans.

this is just senseless...

those that know me well know that i am not a violent person, but if i ever were to come across a poacher, one of us, either him or i, might not be leaving africa alive.

Spike in rhino poaching threatens survival of species

http://rockcenter.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2 ... of-species

By Meghan Frank and Jessica Hopper
Rock Center

In South Africa, home to three quarters of the last remaining rhinos on the planet, conservationists, private game reserve owners and security forces are waging a desperate battle against poachers intent on killing the country’s rhinos for their lucrative horns.

“It is an epidemic. It’s a war that right now we’re losing,” Graeme Rushmere said. “It’s not a South African issue as such, it’s really a global issue.”

Rushmere owns Kariega Game Reserve, a nearly 25,000 acre private reserve. The reserve is home to critically endangered black rhinos and white rhinos.

Rhinos have roamed the Earth for millions of years, but at the turn of the twentieth century there were only about 50 white rhinos left in the world. All were in South Africa. Over the course of several decades, South Africans brought the white rhino back from the brink of extinction. Through incredible conservation work, there are almost 20,000 white rhinos today. The recent spike in poaching has South Africans worried that all of their hard work to save the rhino will be reversed.

Just a decade ago, only about a dozen rhinos were poached each year. Last year, poachers killed more than 400 rhinos.

For Graeme Rushmere and his friend and neighbor Dr. Will Fowlds, the fight to stop the poaching is personal. They lost one of their beloved rhinos, Geza, after his horn was brutally hacked off by poachers.

“We called him Geza which means ‘the naughty one,’” Fowlds said in an interview to air Wednesday night on NBC's Rock Center with Brian Williams. “It was because he had such a naughty playful character.”

Fowlds is a wildlife veterinarian and co-owner of a wild game reserve named Amakhala.

Fowlds has dedicated his life to caring for animals and restoring their habitats, especially the rhinoceros. He still remembers the first rhino that was ever brought to his property. It was Geza’s mother.

“When she stepped off that vehicle and walked out onto that plain and started grazing immediately, it was as if something just fell into place,” Fowlds said.

His first rhino became pregnant with Geza. When he was born, the mom put her baby calf on display.

“It was as if she wanted to show it to the world. She was so proud of her little son. So those were special days,” Fowlds said.

When Geza was three, Fowlds sold him to Rushmere as a way to help grow the rhino population.

“Geza was one of our first four rhino that we introduced back into that wilderness area that basically then had rhino back on it for the first time in probably 160, 170 years,” Rushmere said.

In February of last year, Rushmere received a devastating call that poachers had attacked Geza and that incredibly, he was still alive. Rushmere alerted Fowlds who rushed to the reserve
.

“I went in by myself and when I came around the corner and first saw him, obviously the first thing that strikes you is that there’s an animal that’s supposed to have horns on it and not only were the horns gone, but a large part of his face was missing too,” Fowlds said through tears. “It was just an all consuming sight of pain and agony and confusion. It was an awful thing.”

Rarely are poached rhinos found alive. The poachers had knocked Geza out with a tranquilizer dart and then hacked through his skull with a machete to get every inch of his horn.

“I couldn’t explain why, why someone would do such a thing, but to be there with that animal, I just, I just kept on saying, I’m so sorry boy,” Fowlds said.


Fowlds examined Geza and knew he could not be saved. Before putting the rhino to sleep, he made an agonizing decision to bring a cameraman to document the rhino’s suffering. He hopes the footage will help raise awareness.

“I still don’t know if I did the right thing. I think that will only be known when I see results, if I see the level of poaching start to decrease,” Fowlds said. “Maybe I can say to myself, well part of that had something to do with those images we were able to show the world, but at this stage, I still don’t know if I made the right decision.”


Hundreds of rhinos like Geza are under brutal and bloody assault because of an increasing demand for rhino horn in Asia.

“The worrying thing is if the escalation continues for another one or two more years at this rate, we will very soon start to lose more animals than we can produce,” Fowlds said.

Tom Milliken monitors the illegal rhino horn trade for an organization called Traffic and links the uptick in poaching to increasing wealth and purchasing power in places like China and especially Vietnam.

“Vietnam’s entry into the trade is what has driven this upsurge that we’re witnessing now,” Milliken said.

On top of increased purchasing power, .

rhino horn is being marketed in a new way. Milliken said that the traditional medicine systems of Asia have long promoted rhino horn as a way to reduce fever and other ailments like nose bleeds, but an urban myth has recently taken hold that rhino horn can cure cancer. Scientists have studied rhino horn and found that its medicinal value is virtually non-existent

“Suddenly rhino horn was being promoted in a very lucrative market as a miracle cure and that has led to just carnage in Africa and the highest prices for rhino horn that we’ve ever seen in its history,” Milliken said.

An average sized rhino horn in Vietnam can sell for as much as a quarter of a million dollars, which makes rhino horn gram for gram more valuable than gold or cocaine.

“Highly orchestrated, highly choreographed” rings do the poaching and selling of the rhino horn, Milliken said.

Milliken explained the crime syndicates have “the modern threads of technology: cell phones, computers, Internet.” They also use helicopters, GPS, thermal imaging and powerful medicine to tranquilize the rhinos. That medicine is typically only available to veterinarians, meaning that the very people who are supposed to care for the rhinos are assisting some of the poachers.

In South Africa, the upcoming trial involving two veterinarians, a helicopter pilot, a wild game reserve owner and others accused of slaughtering rhinos, has shocked the country.

Desperate to stop the killing, several short-term measures have been taken to try and protect the animals.

On the reserve where Geza was killed, owner Rushmere moved the remaining rhinos closer to the lodges where his anti-poaching patrol could keep watch on them. He also decided to dehorn several of his rhinos. When done properly, it doesn’t hurt the rhino to have its horn cut off and the horn grows back. Graeme hopes the dehorning is just a temporary solution.

“They’re measures which make you feel you’re going backwards. I mean to dehorn a rhino is defacing a beautiful animal and it’s just, it’s contrary to all of our gut instincts about conservation and wildlife, but it’s a life saving measure. It’s one of those decisions. It’s a lose, lose scenario,” Rushmere said.

Lorinda Hern has taken an even more drastic measure. Her family owns the Rhino and Lion Nature Reserve outside of Johannesburg. They decided to inject the horns of their rhinos with a parasiticide that she claims is safe for the rhino, but would make humans sick.

“We’ve armed our rhinos. We’ve armed them. We’ve treated their horns and if you do consume the horn, you do so at your peril. I can guarantee you, it will not have the desired effect,” Hern said.

Hern and her family made the decision after two of their rhinos were killed. The poachers used tranquilizer darts and the animals were found dead the next day.

“It’s still hard to speak about it because of the excessive cruelty of it. If you do need to kill it, then just kill it. Don’t make it suffer and it doesn’t understand what’s happening to it. It’s the most vile, inhumane act,” she said through tears.

Others have added microchips into the rhino’s horns and taken DNA samples that can be used to track rhino horn sold on the black market.

Most of South Africa’s rhinos roam the country’s large national parks, making them easy targets for poachers.

“It’s actually got to the stage now where we’re at home, the phone rings and you [are] now sort of terrified that it is another rhino,” said Rusty Hustler, head of security for South Africa’s North West Parks and Tourism Board.

The fight has turned deadly for humans too. Twenty-six poachers were killed last year.

Hustler said that South Africa’s military has been deployed in some public parks to fight poachers. In others, park rangers have received paramilitary training and joined anti-poaching units.

At Pilanesberg, a park under Hustler’s watch, ecologist Stephen Dell said that it’s been several years since he has worried much about the balance of plant and animal life. Instead, he’s become like a soldier fighting a war against the poachers.

“It is absolutely a war, they’re armed so we have to be armed…it’s difficult for us to stay one step ahead of them because they’re the ones who are prepared to take the risks and big risks. People are dying in this, poachers are dying,” Dell said.

One member of the anti-poaching unit at Pilanesberg told NBC News that he’s willing to risk his life for the rhinos.

“It cannot defend itself. It doesn’t have a gun,” Mpho Motshegwe said. “Poachers have guns, so I’m willing to stand up and fight for the rhino because it can’t fight for itself.”

For Dell, the ecologist turned warrior, he fears we’re nearing a tipping point in the survival of the species.

“When you have done it for so long and there are very few success stories in conservation and the rhino is one,” Dell said. “Poaching is taking out animals that are young and female, they’re not going to breed. They’re gone out of the system. You’re going to go straight into a vortex of extinction and that’s how it happens.”

Editor's Note: Harry Smith's broadcast report, 'Last Stand,' airs Wednesday, Feb. 22 at 9pm/8c on NBC's Rock Center with Brian Williams.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • I thought they said they were already extinct.


    But then again the news said over a year ago Bradeglina were married last year and now they say they are getting married. I give up.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    I thought they said they were already extinct.


    But then again the news said over a year ago Bradeglina were married last year and now they say they are getting married. I give up.

    :lol:
  • polaris_x wrote:
    I thought they said they were already extinct.


    But then again the news said over a year ago Bradeglina were married last year and now they say they are getting married. I give up.

    :lol:
    :lol: well? its the truth gimme a fuckin break. :lol:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    Well ... if that is any indicator how fucked up things are.


    We cant keep brad and angie apart ... :lol:



    (Ive got tears streaming down my face from laughing)
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    sorry ... :)

    this is part and parcel of the overall problem ... we operate with shortsightedness based on short term goals that benefit the few ... we can apply this problem to almost every other one and they would all have the same face ...
  • Well thats the frightening thing and you are absolutely correct.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    it is a fact that all big game hunters are pieces of garbage. if you shoot rhinos you are the biggest scum bag on the planet. anyone hunting rhino should be hung up by their nuts. this should be the law and now. we need rhinos breeding and breeding before they are erased and all hung on some jerk offs den's wall.

    shooting elephant... whoever does this type of thing has zero regard for any living creatures. they most likely have a minute penis and a lot of rage over their short comings. elephant and rhino hunters on their big safari trip should be tortured with fire, gasoline injections, and barbed wire.

    if any one of you want to hate someone/something. hate the trophy hunter.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    Big game hunting still exists? I know it does but I just can't comprehend it. I support the right to arm bears... and rhinos.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I saw a documentary awhile back about this. I couldn't help crying at the piles and piles of horns from these animals.

    Agreed on trophy hunting and the like, too. It's bullshit.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    hedonist wrote:
    I saw a documentary awhile back about this. I couldn't help crying at the piles and piles of horns from these animals.

    Agreed on trophy hunting and the like, too. It's bullshit.
    i am very sad
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Rhinoceros populations from Asia through Africa are plummeting in the face of burgeoning illicit trade in their horns, much of it driven by myths promoted by criminal smuggling syndicates and targeting the new wealthy in China and Vietnam. The Green blog and Dot Earth have explored these issues, but it’s worth a slightly deeper dive, here provided in a “Your Dot” contribution from Matthew Wilkinson, the founder and editor of the informative Safaritalk blog.

    Here’s an excerpt and link to the full essay by Wilkinson, which I’ve posted via Slideshare.net:

    Matt Wilkinson: As someone who devotes his days to highlighting wildlife conservation in Africa, when I’m asked to name my greatest concern, without hesitation I say the poaching onslaught devastating rhinoceros populations. With so many pressing problems besetting wildlife and the environment, why this one issue over and above everything else? The answer is shaped by the shocking way in which the rhinos are killed and their horns removed, the widespread myths fueling the recent poaching escalation and the apparent inability of governments to tackle this massive problem with anything approaching competence.

    In South Africa as of mid October, 439 rhinos had been killed so far in 2012. That is only 9 short of last year’s total, and 432 more than the 7 reported in 2000. Throughout Africa, on average 50 rhinos are killed for their horns each month – and of course that doesn’t include the losses of Indian, Sumatran and Javan rhinos, whose numbers are plummeting. Despite public awareness campaigns, worldwide petitions, increasing press coverage and pressure on African governments, and large amounts of money donated to rhino conservation groups, the slaughter accelerates. So, why is it still happening?

    Use of rhino horn in Traditional Chinese Medicine [TCM below] and Traditional Oriental Medicine dates back centuries. In a recent Safaritalk article, a retired practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine described the horn’s allure this way: “The character of rhino horn is very cool and is used for curing the heat. The character of the remedy brings the healing; rhino horn is cool, salty, bitter. Viruses create heat (high temperature), and because ancient medicine didn’t know about bacteria, they would use the character of the illness for diagnosis and treatment.” He went on to say, “Rhino horn would clear the heat in the blood and de-toxify the blood in the body. It is also used to treat conditions causing the blood to ‘go the wrong way,’ such as nosebleed. Only a small amount of horn is used, mixed with the other ingredients (herbs, gypsum) or tea.” But since 1993 trade in rhino horn, (as well as tiger parts) was banned by the Chinese government with the aim of stopping the use of endangered wildlife derivatives in TCM: but advocates cling to historical evidence, knowing their ancestors used it, their parents, grandparents: the reason why it continues to be used today by many Chinese families. “As far as the manner of the death and suffering of an animal; to an un-educated Chinese as long as a medicine can save children they don’t care where it comes from,” stated the practitioner to Safaritalk.

    Alternative traditional cures exist which are proven to work, are not derived from rhinos, (or any other animal), and are much cheaper to buy. The practitioner says in the article that his mother used to dig roots, adding, “You don’t have to use rhino horn.” And leafing through an ancient Chinese medical textbook he showed there to be over 500 different herbs in addition to animal remedies and stressed there are “botanical TCM substitutes for rhino horn, and… that’s what people should concentrate on.”

    So instead of demonizing traditional Asian medical practices solely based on the use of rhino horn, it’s time greater emphasis is placed upon promoting these herbal alternatives. With perfectly valid and cost effective herbal remedies, who exactly is benefiting from the trade in the prohibitively expensive rhino horn? Surely not the end user.

    Rhino Horn as Cancer Cure and Club Drug

    So while reliance on rhino horn in Asian medicine may be on a gradual decline (although much slower than is necessary for the survival of the world’s five rhino species), a more immediate threat is posed from two newly developing markets for rhino horn: spurious media reports of its miraculous cancer-curing properties (no doubt propaganda on the part of those fuelling demand) and a frightening rise in the demand for horn as a statement of wealth and affluence. [Read the rest.]
    Also notable is the recent blog in which the Chinese basketball star Yao Ming, working with the nonprofit group WildAid, tracked his trip along the horn and ivory trail to Africa.

    Via a Twitter reaction from the free-market proponents at the Property and Environment Research Center, I listened to a fascinating podcast from Michael ’t Sas-Rolfes, a South African resource economist, that provides a constructive counterpoint. I’d be curious to see comments from the region. Here’s a description from the group’s Web site with a link to the audio:

    In 1900, the southern white rhinoceros was the most endangered of the five rhinoceros species. Less than 20 rhinos remained in a single reserve in South Africa. By 2010, white rhino numbers had climbed to more than 20,000, making it the most common rhino species on the planet.

    Saving the white rhino from extinction can be attributed to a change in policy that allowed private ownership of wildlife. While protecting the rhinos encouraged breeding, the ranchers were able to profit by limited trophy hunting.

    Poaching for rhino horn, which is in high demand for medicinal and ornamental purposes, had also devastated the rhino population. CITES banned the commercial sale of rhino horn, which caused black market sales to sky rocket and encouraged poaching. If the ban were lifted, ranchers are ready to supply the market by harvesting the horns humanely, which then regrow just like fingernails.

    Strong property rights and market incentives have provided a successful model for rhino conservation, despite the negative impact of command-and-control approaches that rely on regulations and bans that restrict wildlife use.

    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/ ... slaughter/


    Meet the Five Species of Rhinoceros
    Rhinos have suffered a 90% decline in population since 1970

    Javan Rhino - population is less than 60 individuals. Most of these rhinos are the Indonesian Javan Rhino subspecies. The Vietnamese Javan Rhino subspecies consists of 5 individual animals and may not recover. The Indian Javan Rhino is extinct.

    Sumatran Rhino - population less than 275 individuals, with poaching on the rise.

    Black Rhino - population 3,725. West African Rhino species declared extinct in 2006. From 1980 until 2006, 14,000 were slaughtered by poachers.

    Indian Rhino - population approximately 2,400, a conservation success story - but poaching is on the rise due to regional political instability

    White Rhino: Northern White Rhino - it was reported on June 17, 2008 that the last 4 individuals were killed by poachers. Southern White Rhino - 14,000 surviving, due to conservation efforts

    http://www.savingrhinos.org/rhino-facts.html

    It's pretty sad how gullible and ignorant the Chinese and Vietnamese people are that they believe the horns from elephants and rhinos not to mention tiger bones are cures for cancer and impotency. Even more asinine is they hang tiger paws above their doors to scare away ghosts.

    Can these people be any more stupid in their belief in traditional Asian medicine which is akin to voodoo medicine. Its not a question of if but when species like the rhino, elephant and tiger all become extinct all due to a stupid belief in something so ridiculous you just shake your head at the ignorance of their culture.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    It's pretty sad how gullible and ignorant the Chinese and Vietnamese people are that they believe the horns from elephants and rhinos not to mention tiger bones are cures for cancer and impotency. Even more asinine is they hang tiger paws above their doors to scare away ghosts.

    Can these people be any more stupid in their belief in traditional Asian medicine which is akin to voodoo medicine. Its not a question of if but when species like the rhino, elephant and tiger all become extinct all due to a stupid belief in something so ridiculous you just shake your head at the ignorance of their culture.

    same thing goes for shark fins ...
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Anyone who kills an animal for any other reason than to eat it is a piece of shit.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,084
    Here's a story about how intelligent animals are and about the love elephants showed for Anthony Lawrence. If people cared for them as much as these elephants cared for Anthony they would never harm them:

    http://aahhtt.com/?p=1241
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  • brianlux wrote:
    Here's a story about how intelligent animals are and about the love elephants showed for Anthony Lawrence. If people cared for them as much as these elephants cared for Anthony they would never harm them:

    http://aahhtt.com/?p=1241

    70% of the ivory goes to china, without the demand from them this would all but stop. You've probably read or seen how China treats animals so do you think the Chinese actually care how intelligent and caring these animals are?
  • Anyone who kills an animal for any other reason than to eat it is a piece of shit.

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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    unreal

    thank you
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Animal Planet's got a new anti-poacher show coming up too. When my guy told me about it, he said we should sell hunting trips to "bag yourself a poacher".

    Ha! I love that.

    In fact, all these wonderful people who film the animals for documentary/conservation purposes should be armed at all times and free to shoot dead the motherfuckers who poach.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    hedonist wrote:
    Animal Planet's got a new anti-poacher show coming up too. When my guy told me about it, he said we should sell hunting trips to "bag yourself a poacher".

    Ha! I love that.

    In fact, all these wonderful people who film the animals for documentary/conservation purposes should be armed at all times and free to shoot dead the motherfuckers who poach.
    thank you...

    those dudes are straight up soo badass it is unreal. love some seals.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    hedonist wrote:
    Animal Planet's got a new anti-poacher show coming up too. When my guy told me about it, he said we should sell hunting trips to "bag yourself a poacher".

    Ha! I love that.

    In fact, all these wonderful people who film the animals for documentary/conservation purposes should be armed at all times and free to shoot dead the motherfuckers who poach.
    in certain areas of africa is it 100% legal to kill poachers on sight.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist wrote:
    Animal Planet's got a new anti-poacher show coming up too. When my guy told me about it, he said we should sell hunting trips to "bag yourself a poacher".

    Ha! I love that.

    In fact, all these wonderful people who film the animals for documentary/conservation purposes should be armed at all times and free to shoot dead the motherfuckers who poach.
    in certain areas of africa is it 100% legal to kill poachers on sight.
    I didn't know that. Right on, Africa!
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    im also enjoying the other episodes of different critters on there
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    in certain areas of africa is it 100% legal to kill poachers on sight.

    That's the only solution to this problem.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013 ... shot-dead/
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    chadwick wrote:
    thank you...

    those dudes are straight up soo badass it is unreal. love some seals.
    Me too, man. I have much respect for their physical and mental strength.

    (I'll also say that I didn't realize we were talking about the same show :oops: :mrgreen: ...I've got our tv reminder set!)
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    in certain areas of africa is it 100% legal to kill poachers on sight.

    That's the only solution to this problem.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013 ... shot-dead/
    And a hell yeah to your comment too.

    "Rhinoceros horns, which are basically made of compressed hair, are used in parts of Asia, especially China and Vietnam, in traditional medicine to supposedly treat cancer and other ailments such as arthritis and hangovers. The rhino horn, which can fetch thousands of dollars, is also sometimes carved into bowls or cups or a piece of jewelry.

    “It is quite surprising (the) rhino trade has taken a new shape based on a spreading belief in Southeast Asia, unfounded in science,” Mr. Ghose said."

    Fucking sick! C'mon motherfuckers, get your shit together.
  • I'm happy that my unicorn in the backyard is happy in her cage. The world just dosen't have a male to breed with her, so she is going to die lonely and be the last of her kind. Sad that things come to pass this way. But, I'll at least wait until she dies a natural death before I put her horn up on ebay for a huge price.

    So did China and places like that actually have rhinos and they killed them all off for medicine and viagara?

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    As much as I wanted to watch last night, I just couldn't get through more than ten minutes - the piles of horns, the wall of rhino skulls, the baby squealing next to its dead mother...jesus.

    Once again though, kudos to the special ops guys. I hope they took some poachers down.
  • hedonist wrote:
    As much as I wanted to watch last night, I just couldn't get through more than ten minutes - the piles of horns, the wall of rhino skulls, the baby squealing next to its dead mother...jesus.

    Once again though, kudos to the special ops guys. I hope they took some poachers down.

    Serious question: Is there any other species on this earth that wantonly kills/slaughters virtually any species- including their own- like the human being?

    I'm pretty sure the depth of our cruelty and malice is unsurpassed. Many of us take enjoyment from violence. In that regard... I would be so bold as to suggest we are the worst species on this planet. Can this even be debated?
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