Got organic milk?

riotgrl

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think we should be drinking milk ... period ... if it must be used - definitely organic ...

Why don't you think we should be drinking milk?

because milk is very hard for your body to digest ... it's why there are so many people who are lactoce intolerant ... combine that with the fact that when one gets ill and the doctor changes their diet ... dairy is often one of the first few things they cut as well as gluten/wheat ...

then consider that no other animal drinks milk after they are nursed ...

Part of the reason that milk is so hard to digest is because of the grain fed diet of cows (including many so called organic brands) and the overprocessing (pasteurization and homogenization) of milk to make it safe to drink. Raw milk is generally well tolerated by people who are lactose intolerant - if you can find it in your state, that is.

chadwick

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think we should be drinking milk ... period ... if it must be used - definitely organic ...

Why don't you think we should be drinking milk?

because milk is very hard for your body to digest ... it's why there are so many people who are lactoce intolerant ... combine that with the fact that when one gets ill and the doctor changes their diet ... dairy is often one of the first few things they cut as well as gluten/wheat ...

then consider that no other animal drinks milk after they are nursed ...

lactoce intolerant always made me go.... :shock: what the fuck does that mean???? i mean what does it really mean. simply put, dairy makes your guts hurt and you are running to the john

http://youtu.be/8V81uwYDa0Q

g under p

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think we should be drinking milk ... period ... if it must be used - definitely organic ...

Why don't you think we should be drinking milk?

because milk is very hard for your body to digest ... it's why there are so many people who are lactoce intolerant ... combine that with the fact that when one gets ill and the doctor changes their diet ... dairy is often one of the first few things they cut as well as gluten/wheat ...

then consider that no other animal drinks milk after they are nursed ...

I agree Polaris...I don't or haven;t had cows milk in years reason being....even though I'm not lactose intolerant I just believe after being nursed there's no need to be drinking cows milk whether it's organic or fresh right from the cow.

I drink organic coconut milk and cook with coconut oil which along with exercise has helped me to drop many pounds.

Peace

Jason P

Well, to each their own.

But you have to admit, when the decision of drinking regular milk, organic milk, or abstaining from milk is a general concern of yours, life is good. There is a pretty good chance your city isn't being shelled or you have to wait in line for a daily bread ration.

Johnny Abruzzo

Jason P wrote:

Well, to each their own.

But you have to admit, when the decision of drinking regular milk, organic milk, or abstaining from milk is a general concern of yours, life is good. There is a pretty good chance your city isn't being shelled or you have to wait in line for a daily bread ration.

Uh huh - nice perspective.

Lizard

I am not pouring water on MY cereal!!!!!

riotgrl

Well at the very least, we are all concerned about our health. That is definitely the most important thing!

g under p

polaris_x wrote:

inlet13 wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think we should be drinking milk ... period ... if it must be used - definitely organic ...

Why don't you think we should be drinking milk?

because milk is very hard for your body to digest ... it's why there are so many people who are lactoce intolerant ... combine that with the fact that when one gets ill and the doctor changes their diet ... dairy is often one of the first few things they cut as well as gluten/wheat ...

then consider that no other animal drinks milk after they are nursed ...

Also here's a bit of info from the book *Skinny Bitch* the chapter *The Dairy Disaster*.

When a woman gives birth, her body produces milk and she nurses her child. Breast milk can grow an 8-pound newborn into a 24-pound toddler. Sounds pretty fattening, huh? It is. By design, it is intended to allow for the biggest growth spurt of a person’s entire life. Breast milk alone can accommodate for a 300 percent weight gain in a 12 month period. When her child is anywhere from 12 to 24 months old, a mother stops breast feeding. Her milk dries up. The child will never drink breast milk ever again.


Cows, like all mammals, are much the same. Their bodies produce milk only when they give birth. Contrary to popular belief, they do not need to be milked – ever. Their udders, like women’s breasts, exist even when there is no milk in them. There is one major difference, however. Cows’ milk, by design, grows a 90-pound calf into a 2,000-pound cow over the course of 2 years. It allows calves to double their birth weight in forty-seven days and leaves their four stomachs feeling full. Sounds even more fattening than human milk, right? It is. It should be. Cows are bigger than humans. And the inner workings of their bodies are completely different than ours, which they should be. They are cows. We are humans. Duh.

The authors Rory and Kim also say this...*As the authors state a little bit later, “We are the only species on the planet that drinks milk as adults. We are also the only species on the planet that drinks the milk of another species.*

"Interesting, isn’t it? When you look at it from that perspective, it’s really WEIRD that humans drink cows’ milk. That was kind of the thing that got me to quit eating dairy – I mean, not only is it horrible for the cows both physically and emotionally to be constantly impregnated and milked by machines instead of getting to nurse their young, it’s also really unnatural thing for humans to do. I’m sold – how about you?"


That is true we are the ONLY species on the planet that does this. When milk's basic use is to fatten the young and fatten them very fast to survive in their natural habitat. Why do some of us drink cows milk why not gorilla or elephant milk....mainly it's volume of milk a cow can produce, easy domesticated and they bring in more profits for farmers.

The rest of the article here.... http://creaturetalk.wordpress.com/2008/ ... -on-dairy/

Peace

amethgr8

we're the only species with opposing thumbs, are we not supposed to use 'em?

I get what you're saying about the milk industry in general. it has gotten completely crazy, using an animal like a food manufacturing building, I get it.

in an ideal world, I would have my own livestock and use the fruits of their bodies when they and the seasons allowed.

unfortunately the government controls alot of the food industry and how it is run.

raw milk can be an answer for lactose intolerant people but the govt doesn't allow us to consume raw milk cause you can get sick.

you can get sick of government too.
cheers!
amy

mca47

polaris_x wrote:

i don't think we should be drinking milk ... period ... if it must be used - definitely organic ...

Agreed!

Johnny Abruzzo

We are also the only species that cracks chicken eggs and cooks them in a frying pan. And the only species that cooks meat. And the only species that farms. We're different - that's just how it is.

Idris

Some info

http://organicpastures.com/whyraw.html

http://www.realmilk.com/happening.html

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/21/feds-fresh-milk-150-times-dangerous-pasteurized

g under p

Idris wrote:

Some info

http://organicpastures.com/whyraw.html

http://www.realmilk.com/happening.html

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/21/feds-fresh-milk-150-times-dangerous-pasteurized

Thank you for the info I learn something new about how our food is produced each day especially about raw foods.

Peace

Go Beavers

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

We are also the only species that cracks chicken eggs and cooks them in a frying pan. And the only species that cooks meat. And the only species that farms. We're different - that's just how it is.

I keep thinking this, too. Aren't we the only animal than CAN do these things? If I had a dairy cow in my backyard, I'm sure my dog would suckle its teet daily, and afterwards, she would go to the fridge and eat and drink everything in it.

LikeAnOcean

Jason P wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

then consider that no other animal drinks milk after they are nursed ...

My kitty cat begs to differ ....

Most cats can't properly digest milk and it makes them sick. You have a lucky kitty.


I drink milk every day, but I think humans would be fine without it. I'm not sure why people are paying so much for it.

Johnny Abruzzo

Go Beavers wrote:

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

We are also the only species that cracks chicken eggs and cooks them in a frying pan. And the only species that cooks meat. And the only species that farms. We're different - that's just how it is.

I keep thinking this, too. Aren't we the only animal than CAN do these things? If I had a dairy cow in my backyard, I'm sure my dog would suckle its teet daily, and afterwards, she would go to the fridge and eat and drink everything in it.

If I leave out prosciutto, goat cheese or ice cream my cat is all over it. Cats have no ability to produce any of those things.

Idris

g under p wrote:

Idris wrote:

Some info

http://organicpastures.com/whyraw.html

http://www.realmilk.com/happening.html

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/feb/21/feds-fresh-milk-150-times-dangerous-pasteurized

Thank you for the info I learn something new about how our food is produced each day especially about raw foods.

Peace

You welcome Mr g, it's the same with me, learning new things about this important subject almost everyday.
We are what we eat!
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Ron Paul speaking about Raw Milk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAQdjjXCN6A

and this from the FDA Feb. 22, 2012

Federal government gains permanent injunction against raw milk producer
Farmer enjoined from distributing raw milk products across state lines

A federal court has granted the U.S. Food and Drug Administration a permanent injunction preventing Daniel L. Allgyer and his Rainbow Acres Farm from distributing raw milk and raw milk products in final package form for human consumption across state lines.

U.S. District Judge Lawrence F. Stengel, of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, also ruled that Allgyer’s participation in a so-called “private buying club” does not shield him from federal oversight, and that Allgyer’s “cow share” agreements are a subterfuge for sales of raw milk. Members of the private buying club had allegedly purchased “shares” of individual cows and then claimed that their reputed ownership entitled them to raw milk from those cows. Allgyer provided the association members who lived outside of Pennsylvania with containers of raw milk, even though federal law prohibits sales of raw milk for human consumption across state lines. Raw milk sales are legal within the state of Pennsylvania.

Allgyer also violated federal law by not providing any labeling on the raw milk containers sold to consumers.

The FDA sought the injunction against Allgyer after documenting multiple and repeated violations of federal law. The agency issued a warning letter to Allgyer in April 2010, informing him of these violations and requesting that he take corrective measures to avoid regulatory action. Despite such warning, Allgyer continued to operate in violation of federal law.

The permanent injunction requires Allgyer to place a statement on his products, invoices, and website that he will no longer distribute unpasteurized milk or milk products in interstate commerce. He also must keep complete records of each sale, including the name and address of each buyer, the date of sale or distribution, and the amount and type of products sold, and must provide a copy of the Court’s order to all employees and persons who work with him to distribute unpasteurized milk and milk products

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm292924.htm
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An interesting article.

CDC Cherry Picks Data to Make Case Against Raw Milk
Agency ignores data that shows dangers of pasteurized milk

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cdc-cherry-picks-data-case-175238460.html

(Personally, the last time I had Raw Milk was well over a decade ago, and I really miss it. It tasted great, soooooo good! These day's I drink Organic Milk. But would one day like to make a switch back to Organic Raw)

g under p

Thanks again, just last week we went to a farm in Boynton Beach FL and pick our own strawberries, green, red peppers and tomatoes. I tasted one of the red peppers and it was so ggod I ate the whole thing which was almost as big as my hand. It tasted like the sweetest fruit and the strawberries were so sweet and soft I had to tell the teller to put them in smaller bags so that they wouldn't get crushed under their own weight. It was so much fun we picked them in a misty rain and in bare feet, we're going back tomorrow the kids wanted no part in this adventure. We have to get some more purple potatoes.

Peace

hedonist

g under p wrote:

Thanks again, just last week we went to a farm in Boynton Beach FL and pick our own strawberries, green, red peppers and tomatoes. I tasted one of the red peppers and it was so ggod I ate the whole thing which was almost as big as my hand. It tasted like the sweetest fruit and the strawberries were so sweet and soft I had to tell the teller to put them in smaller bags so that they wouldn't get crushed under their own weight. It was so much fun we picked them in a misty rain and in bare feet, we're going back tomorrow the kids wanted no part in this adventure. We have to get some more purple potatoes.

Peace

This evokes such a nice visual. Thank you.

It reminds me of when I was a kid, and my family would drive a long ways (don't know where, I was a kid!) and we'd go cherry-picking...on ladders right up into the trees, with lovely baskets to toss them in. I'd always eat some fresh and spit the pits.

Cherries are one of the few things I love about summertime.

It was FUN. Felt natural too.

And the fruit itself? DEE-lish.

I bet if your kids gave it a shot, they'd love it.

g under p

hedonist wrote:

g under p wrote:

Thanks again, just last week we went to a farm in Boynton Beach FL and pick our own strawberries, green, red peppers and tomatoes. I tasted one of the red peppers and it was so ggod I ate the whole thing which was almost as big as my hand. It tasted like the sweetest fruit and the strawberries were so sweet and soft I had to tell the teller to put them in smaller bags so that they wouldn't get crushed under their own weight. It was so much fun we picked them in a misty rain and in bare feet, we're going back tomorrow the kids wanted no part in this adventure. We have to get some more purple potatoes.

Peace

This evokes such a nice visual. Thank you.

It reminds me of when I was a kid, and my family would drive a long ways (don't know where, I was a kid!) and we'd go cherry-picking...on ladders right up into the trees, with lovely baskets to toss them in. I'd always eat some fresh and spit the pits.

Cherries are one of the few things I love about summertime.

It was FUN. Felt natural too.

And the fruit itself? DEE-lish.

I bet if your kids gave it a shot, they'd love it.

Yeah maybe they would but that constant bending over would probably grow old fast. However, right next door is the Loxahachee National Wildlife Refuge...beautiful and prestine (long trails, camping), a couple of the teens would only the part just for the fishing or spotting a 10 footer....gator that is.

Peace