a little irritated is saying it lightly

chadwick

so i been thinking a lot lately about our positioning in our doing of this global disaster as a people. and as a human being in this current fuck of a place to live, i have solutions in thought and end less dead ends, those are no solutions... yet.

this current consumption of our materialisms appetite is a massive hole unfillable. stop.

i want to be able to go to the store, buy my shampoo, go home and use it. when the bottle is empty, my hair clean and fun and messed up and the sun shinning, i want to not throw the empty shampoo bottle away,no.

i want to make my way back to the store and have an employee or myself refill my bottle. i will use this bottle of plastic for the rest of my natural days.

coffee creamer...the powdered shit...refill thank you that was easy scooping powdered coffee creamer back into my plastic coffee creamer container.

thank you orange juice refill man/lady. and if the orange juice refill person was a lady, she would be hot as fuck and in a bikini at the citris isle of your local grocer.

honey refills are the best. those men and women smear warm honey all over each other all night. you can only buy honey refills in odd hours of dark-time due to bee queen bee legalities. she is a one way bitch, that hooker.

JonnyPistachio

you had me at bikini.

polaris_x

you can do that up here ... i've been using the same shampoo bottle for like 8 years ...

EmBleve

very good and decent ideas. I would be concerned, though, about the germ aspect and sanitation issues. What do you think about that? Not so much the shampoo thing, but I don't want to be behind somebody to fill my oj and they just wiped their snotty nose on their hand before getting theirs because they are oblivious to bacterial or viral transfer (this of course if there happened to not be the chick in the bikini doing it--which could be a separate issue entirely).

chadwick

JonnyPistachio wrote:

you had me at bikini.

tooth paste refills. we can change things up. we can have bikini tooth paste refill ladies squirt mint paste back up into our tubes. :shock:

beer refills are probably pretty entertiaining to the super bowl sunday beer drinkers.

we are a catered to society. i personally am very tired of pampered bullshit. and believe me i am far from being coddled and catered to. i wouldn't allow myself to become that way.

chadwick

polaris_x wrote:

you can do that up here ... i've been using the same shampoo bottle for like 8 years ...

stfu

mysticweed

awesome, wickweed

we live in an area that is prone to drought stress
in addition to having a shitty well
we are constantly trying to preserve our water supply
i would be happy to refill any plastic containers

hedonist

I hear you, and agree to an extent.

But what about using milk instead of the powdered shit?

What about fresh-squeezing oranges yourself?

chadwick

catered to and coddled... those are some of my favorite words i have ever heard. the story behind this is so good i cannot tell you people.

"i don't cater to and coddle that (expletive deleted) sucker. i don't. i won't."

one of the greatest moment in the history of the universe.

problem is as a society we are spoiled fucking rotten. we have huge expectation and they are dreamed up and filled. every whim is granted. what i fancy matters and now. i have this store and this store and i want this and we need this and every fucking day, all day, and all night. buy buy buy. throw away huge amounts of food and plastics and wow...holy fucking shit.

many have no clue what it means to have no idea what i am going on about. like the folks in 3rd world countries or something. they be like, chadwick, what you talkin bout willis? we fuckin hungry in our loin clothes and our balls are in the dirt

chadwick

hedonist wrote:

I hear you, and agree to an extent.

But what about using milk instead of the powdered shit?

What about fresh-squeezing oranges yourself?

exactly. thank you. carry on with ideas.

JonnyPistachio

Good points chawick...You even had me thinking (about walking) this morning as I drove around. There has to be an alternative to many of the things we are doing to our planet.

I recall a few years ago, my recycle bin was maybe 1x2 feet. Now, they've replaced it with a full sized bin -- The same as my regular trash receptacle. I put my regular trash out maybe once a month for pick-up, but my recycler is out every monday. I think they've increased the types of products they can recycle, and companies are packaging with better stuff.

That said, I ate at wendys the other day, and they stuck my chicken sandwich in a wrapper, then put it half exposed in a cardboard box. What a waste of shit. I told the cahsier to take that box back and recycle it. They are obviously doing it for presentation.

We should be doing more though. think about all the tiny things that get thrown out. maybe they should just sell giant tubes of toothpaste and deodorant, and shampoo in buckets?

polaris_x

chadwick wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

you can do that up here ... i've been using the same shampoo bottle for like 8 years ...

stfu

there's also a thing called bulk stores ...

edit: i also bring reused take out containers (plastic ones not the styrofoam type) for take out ...

chadwick

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Good points chawick...You even had me thinking (about walking) this morning as I drove around. There has to be an alternative to many of the things we are doing to our planet.

I recall a few years ago, my recycle bin was maybe 1x2 feet. Now, they've replaced it with a full sized bin -- The same as my regular trash receptacle. I put my regular trash out maybe once a month for pick-up, but my recycler is out every monday. I think they've increased the types of products they can recycle, and companies are packaging with better stuff.

That said, I ate at wendys the other day, and they stuck my chicken sandwich in a wrapper, then put it half exposed in a cardboard box. What a waste of shit. I told the cahsier to take that box back and recycle it. They are obviously doing it for presentation.

We should be doing more though. think about all the tiny things that get thrown out. maybe they should just sell giant tubes of toothpaste and deodorant, and shampoo in buckets?

nice story. yeah presentation is a huge thing is selling one's product. they fuck shit up when doing this. who need six layers of signs and wrappers and plastic shit everywhere and cardboard

chadwick

polaris_x wrote:

chadwick wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

you can do that up here ... i've been using the same shampoo bottle for like 8 years ...

stfu

there's also a thing called bulk stores ...

edit: i also bring reused take out containers (plastic ones not the styrofoam type) for take out ...

small town iowa. i have no bulk store. wal mart being the bulk. wal mart does not refill my shampoo bottles nor refill my toothpaste tube nor massage my groin

redrock

In order to try and cut their carbon footprint and reduce waste, a little while back in the UK a couple of the large chains of supermarkets were trialing 'refilling' with various products/goods. It would seem the take up wasn't all that great and the 'effort' on the part of the supermarkets was too much. I'm sure if the range of products would have been decent and the fact advertised, it would have been a bit more successful. I guess they think offering refill pouches (instead of full blown bottle, etc.) is good enough. Takes up less landfill but it's still rubbish!

Around where I live a few 'niche' shops do offer that kind of service for some of their products, but they are very expensive.

In the meantime, like hedonist said, get as many products as you can in their 'natural' packaging! Also, for all my fruit, veg, eggs, meat, etc. I buy non packaged.

I would like to refill my shampoo bottles though!!!!

polaris_x

chadwick wrote:

small town iowa. i have no bulk store. wal mart being the bulk. wal mart does not refill my shampoo bottles nor refill my toothpaste tube nor massage my groin

ya ... it is unfortunate we live in such a consumption and disposable based society ... i live in a big city - and there are a lot of options for me to try and consume less and produce less garbage ...

bjo1015

chadwick wrote:

small town iowa. i have no bulk store. wal mart being the bulk. wal mart does not refill my shampoo bottles nor refill my toothpaste tube nor massage my groin

Chadwick - small world, I am also from Iowa (cedar rapids) but grew up in a super tiny town in Eastern Iowa. There are so many fewer options here than in bigger cities.

EmBleve

bjo1015 wrote:

chadwick wrote:

small town iowa. i have no bulk store. wal mart being the bulk. wal mart does not refill my shampoo bottles nor refill my toothpaste tube nor massage my groin

Chadwick - small world, I am also from Iowa (cedar rapids) but grew up in a super tiny town in Eastern Iowa. There are so many fewer options here than in bigger cities.

this is true; where I live now people can't even get those recycling containers at their house--we get stuff together and take it to the recycling center. I liked having those blue bins at home when I lived in a city--I have to put the recyclables IN something to take them so I use a container (yes, plastic, but I reuse it constantly). Also, I used to get paper bags at the grocery store...guess what...they don't have them anymore.

brianlux

Great idea, Chadwick. It has often vexed me that I have to purchase a new container with so many of the products for which the old one would be quite suitable.

Somewhat related to this is a bottled water that I found recently that I'm thrilled with. It's called Green Planet.

http://www.greenplanetbottling.com/

The bottle is made 100% from plants and as long as I don't put it near something hot I can refill it over and over with my own filtered water. No more plastic bottles, no more metallic taste from metal bottles!

Godfather.

are you guys nutty ? lets just push for biodegratable packaging with wax linned containers for shampoo and such, there is no friggin way I want to scrape the honey off anybodys body to eat it....welll almost anybodys body

Godfather.

polaris_x

brianlux wrote:

No more plastic bottles, no more metallic taste from metal bottles!

stainless steel should have no affect on the taste of the water

MotoDC

polaris_x wrote:

brianlux wrote:

No more plastic bottles, no more metallic taste from metal bottles!

stainless steel should have no affect on the taste of the water

Mind over matter.

iluvcats

I was ordering my shampoo online (for color treated hair.) They offered a huge (but expensive) bottle to conserve plastic and I loved that. They (Aveda) no longer offer it :(

Good thread. I too am disgusted.

chadwick

got a tire once replaced at some shop. they wanted 3 bucks to dispose of the tire. i kept it myself and painted it safety-yellow and hung it from the ceiling in my livingroom and called it art. i filled the tire with soil and wood chips and grew a mossy fern mini jungle out of this piece of shit tire.

EmBleve

chadwick wrote:

got a tire once replaced at some shop. they wanted 3 bucks to dispose of the tire. i kept it myself and painted it safety-yellow and hung it from the ceiling in my livingroom and called it art. i filled the tire with soil and wood chips and grew a mossy fern mini jungle out of this piece of shit tire.

that's very cool.