home grown terrorism ?
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this guy was illegal how is this "home grown" ?
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Washington (CNN) -- A 29-year-old man from Morocco was arrested Friday and charged with attempting to bomb the U.S. Capitol building in a suicide attack, authorities said.
Suspect Amine El Khalifi made an initial appearance in court and, if convicted, faces a maximum penalty of life in prison, according to the Justice Department.
He allegedly went to a parking garage near the Capitol on Friday and received what he thought was a vest with explosives and a firearm, both of which had been rendered inoperable by law enforcement. He was arrested before leaving the garage.
"Today's case underscores the continuing threat we face from homegrown violent extremists," said Assistant Attorney General for National Security Lisa Monaco. "Thanks to a coordinated law enforcement effort, El Khalifi's alleged plot was thwarted before anyone was harmed."
The suspect was charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction against government property. Authorities say the public was never in any danger.
As news of the arrest broke, the Senate had just wrapped up voting on a payroll tax cut extension deal. The House of Representatives had already voted on the deal and members had left, or were leaving. Tourists were also at the Capitol, as is usual.
During his initial court appearance, El Khalifi wore blue pants and a green T-shirt with the words "Ready in Season" on the back. He had short black hair, a trimmed, thin beard and tattoos on his inner arm. He stood straight, showed no emotion and did not speak.
Source: Man tries to attack U.S. Capitol A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled for Wednesday.
The suspect, an immigrant from Morocco, is in the United States illegally. He had been closely monitored as part of a lengthy and extensive undercover operation, police said, adding that U.S. Capitol Police had been "intimately" involved in the investigation.
The suspect entered the United States in June 1999 on a B2 visa -- which allows for trips for pleasure, tourism or medical treatment, according to an FBI affidavit. His visa expired that same year and he has been living in the United States illegally ever since.
In January 2011, a confidential source reported to the FBI that El Khalifi met with other individuals at a residence in Arlington, Virginia. A person there produced what appeared to be weapons and El Khalifi "expressed agreement with a statement by this individual that the 'war on terrorism' was a 'war on Muslim,' and said that the group needed to be ready for war," the affidavit read.
At another point, El Khalifi allegedly said he would "be happy killing 30 people," it said.
One law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told CNN that authorities are searching two locations in Virginia in connection to the investigation -- one in Arlington, the other in Alexandria.
A second law enforcement official said El Khalifi is not connected to a terrorist organization and was acting alone.
El Khalifi thought he had met al Qaeda members who would assist him, but in fact he was dealing with undercover FBI agents, said the second source, who declined to say whether the FBI has audio or video recordings of the suspect talking to undercover agents about his plans.
A third source briefed on the matter said the suspect was identified through an existing criminal, not terrorism investigation. When asked about possible entrapment, the U.S. government source said the suspect went out on his own to buy component pieces for an improvised explosive device.
After news of the arrest broke, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor hailed the work of the FBI and the U.S. Capitol Police in thwarting the alleged attack.
"These brave members of our law enforcement community make daily sacrifices in their work to keep us safe and deserve tremendous credit for their efforts leading up to today's successful sting," he said.
President Barack Obama was informed on Thursday about the FBI's plan to arrest El Khalifi, a White House spokesman said.
Top congressional leaders were also briefed on the arrest and operation, a congressional source said, though it was not clear exactly when.
Unlike some other recent attacks on the Capitol, Friday's alleged suicide plot involved a suspect willing to kill himself.
In September last year, a federal grand jury indicted a man for allegedly plotting to use large remote-controlled model airplanes filled with explosives to attack the Capitol and the Pentagon.
A man was arrested in September 2008 two blocks from the Capitol after an officer spotted a rifle in his car.
And in July 1998, a gunman fired shots in the Capitol building, killing two U.S. Capitol Police officers.
CNN's Dan Lothian, Deirdre Walsh, Susan Candiotti, Eric Fiegel and Fran Townsend contributed to this report.
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Washington (CNN) -- A 29-year-old man from Morocco was arrested Friday and charged with attempting to bomb the U.S. Capitol building in a suicide attack, authorities said.
Suspect Amine El Khalifi made an initial appearance in court and, if convicted, faces a maximum penalty of life in prison, according to the Justice Department.
He allegedly went to a parking garage near the Capitol on Friday and received what he thought was a vest with explosives and a firearm, both of which had been rendered inoperable by law enforcement. He was arrested before leaving the garage.
"Today's case underscores the continuing threat we face from homegrown violent extremists," said Assistant Attorney General for National Security Lisa Monaco. "Thanks to a coordinated law enforcement effort, El Khalifi's alleged plot was thwarted before anyone was harmed."
The suspect was charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction against government property. Authorities say the public was never in any danger.
As news of the arrest broke, the Senate had just wrapped up voting on a payroll tax cut extension deal. The House of Representatives had already voted on the deal and members had left, or were leaving. Tourists were also at the Capitol, as is usual.
During his initial court appearance, El Khalifi wore blue pants and a green T-shirt with the words "Ready in Season" on the back. He had short black hair, a trimmed, thin beard and tattoos on his inner arm. He stood straight, showed no emotion and did not speak.
Source: Man tries to attack U.S. Capitol A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled for Wednesday.
The suspect, an immigrant from Morocco, is in the United States illegally. He had been closely monitored as part of a lengthy and extensive undercover operation, police said, adding that U.S. Capitol Police had been "intimately" involved in the investigation.
The suspect entered the United States in June 1999 on a B2 visa -- which allows for trips for pleasure, tourism or medical treatment, according to an FBI affidavit. His visa expired that same year and he has been living in the United States illegally ever since.
In January 2011, a confidential source reported to the FBI that El Khalifi met with other individuals at a residence in Arlington, Virginia. A person there produced what appeared to be weapons and El Khalifi "expressed agreement with a statement by this individual that the 'war on terrorism' was a 'war on Muslim,' and said that the group needed to be ready for war," the affidavit read.
At another point, El Khalifi allegedly said he would "be happy killing 30 people," it said.
One law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told CNN that authorities are searching two locations in Virginia in connection to the investigation -- one in Arlington, the other in Alexandria.
A second law enforcement official said El Khalifi is not connected to a terrorist organization and was acting alone.
El Khalifi thought he had met al Qaeda members who would assist him, but in fact he was dealing with undercover FBI agents, said the second source, who declined to say whether the FBI has audio or video recordings of the suspect talking to undercover agents about his plans.
A third source briefed on the matter said the suspect was identified through an existing criminal, not terrorism investigation. When asked about possible entrapment, the U.S. government source said the suspect went out on his own to buy component pieces for an improvised explosive device.
After news of the arrest broke, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor hailed the work of the FBI and the U.S. Capitol Police in thwarting the alleged attack.
"These brave members of our law enforcement community make daily sacrifices in their work to keep us safe and deserve tremendous credit for their efforts leading up to today's successful sting," he said.
President Barack Obama was informed on Thursday about the FBI's plan to arrest El Khalifi, a White House spokesman said.
Top congressional leaders were also briefed on the arrest and operation, a congressional source said, though it was not clear exactly when.
Unlike some other recent attacks on the Capitol, Friday's alleged suicide plot involved a suspect willing to kill himself.
In September last year, a federal grand jury indicted a man for allegedly plotting to use large remote-controlled model airplanes filled with explosives to attack the Capitol and the Pentagon.
A man was arrested in September 2008 two blocks from the Capitol after an officer spotted a rifle in his car.
And in July 1998, a gunman fired shots in the Capitol building, killing two U.S. Capitol Police officers.
CNN's Dan Lothian, Deirdre Walsh, Susan Candiotti, Eric Fiegel and Fran Townsend contributed to this report.
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our federal tax dollars were spent to train and arm a delusional sociopath. they found someone who had severe mental problems and instead of putting him on drugs and institutionalizing him, they told him he should bomb some federal buildings. being a sociopathic dimwit, he was like "mmmkay." they recruited and made him believe he was doing a righteous act for Al-Qaeda. then they gave him a vest full of play-doh or something and told him "go blow up that building over there." so, being a sociopathic dimwit, he did.
GREAT use of our tax dollars guys. way to hype up a situation that could have been diffused (pun intended) by simply using evidence available that he's a sociopath and putting him in an institution. i'm sure this had NOTHING to do with putting the "TERRORIST" label in the headline news so people are properly scared and open up their wallets to the defense department.
so yeah, it was home grown, because your tax dollars paid for this story.
.... :wtf: really...you really think that ? do you have anything to back that story up besides a bottle of jack and a six pack of billy beer ? I mean I'm open to most...some theories but that one is a little out there man.
Godfather.
Edit: sorry, being home with the flu does this sort of thing to me. :wtf:
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
homegrown....ahhh the good ol day's.
Godfather.
so you don't agree with me and that means you can call me an alcoholic? you're precisely the reason why i hate coming to this forum.
here, try reading something;
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/19/how-the-fbi-invents-terrorists-like-the-u-s-capitol-suicide-bomber.html
How the FBI Invents Terrorists Like the U.S. Capitol ‘Suicide Bomber’
Feb 19, 2012 10:23 AM EST Even the authorities admit the alleged suicide bomber apprehended near the U.S. Capitol posed no threat. Mansfield Frazier on how the feds create ‘terrorists’ so they can arrest them.
If federal authorities thought Amine El Khalifi was a clear and present danger to America, they could have easily solved the problem by deporting the 29-year-old Moroccan, who had been living as an illegal immigrant in northern Virginia for years, having overstayed his visitor’s visa by a decade. Instead, he was arrested Friday in a garage outside the U.S. Capitol for allegedly planning to set off a fake suicide vest and shoot people with an inoperable automatic weapon—both provided to him by his government handlers.
As federal authorities so accurately stated after Khalifi's “capture,” he never posed a danger to the public. In other words, at no time were any Americans in any danger whatsoever from this suspect.
Yet, if convicted, Khalifi will most likely spend the majority of the rest of his life in prison, courtesy of the American taxpayer. The only question is, will we be safer? Or, more pointedly, were we ever in danger to begin with?
In early February of this year journalist Trevor Aaronson won an award from New York City’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice for “The Informants,” an article he wrote in the September-October 2011 issue of Mother Jones. The juried contest, in which Aaronson received first prize, was held as part of the seventh annual Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation symposium on crime in America. (Full disclosure: I was a judge in that contest.)
In retrospect, Aaronson’s article was prescient. Down to the minutest of details, he described just how alleged “plots” like the one Khalifi is accused of launching unfold. He was able to do so because these cases by now usually follow a similar pattern: an FBI-paid Muslim informant goes to his handlers and alerts them to threats being made against America by a fellow worshiper at the mosque they attend; the feds then continue (or in some instances upgrade) the pay of the informant so they can develop a relationship with the supposed terrorist, thereby encouraging the sometimes unstable individual to think of himself as a potential martyr and avenger of all of the Western insults against Islam; then, when the “terrorist” is wound up tighter than a cheap wristwatch, he is given “weapons of mass destruction” and sent off to avenge his faith.
Of course the feds, who have orchestrated, choreographed, and paid for the entire charade, are waiting for the bomber with open arms. Afterward, some informants move on to another city where they eventually “discover” yet another plot—or, as critics say, create one if none is to be found. Hey, informants gotta eat too, you know.
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you're precisely the reason why i enjoy coming to this forum.
come on man the "dailybeast" ? I suppose anything is possible and not to hard to believe,did I strike chord with the Jack and Billy beer joke...that was in no way ment to call you or assume you are an alcoholic.
Godfather.
it's happened plenty of times before; http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/no ... rror-plots
"The target, the motive, the ideology and the plot were all led by the FBI," said Karen Greenberg, a law professor at Fordham University in New York, who specialises in studying the new FBI tactics."
here is another one in video form since it seems you aren't reading anything; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heJCSC5xL8w
and back to the original story, http://www.activistpost.com/2012/02/was ... -plot.html
"The FBI is carrying out what is essentially a campaign of entrapment fueling what alternative news outlet Media Monarchy appropriately calls "terronoia." And while it is true that these incidents are being used to foment a climate of fear to justify the ongoing "War on Terror," there is a more sinister implication readers must be aware of" <cont'd>
oh, and while reading any of this you have to simultaneously listen to this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5Sa2Yq-2g
o.k you got me thinking...but the suspects involved were talking about terrorist plots or looking for some kind of backing and the FBI gave it to them.
but that circus thing was a little out there and comments made on the video by clown/youtube people were ...very old southern style remarks and had me wondering what your opinion on those comments were ?
Godfather.
i don't know the backstory with the "suspects" but it seems that they were recruited and led by the FBI. you can make a radical kid do lots of crazy things if you give him unlimited resources and fuel his ideology. it is certain (not even an argument here) that those guys wouldn't have done any sort of terrorist activity without the FBI involvement. this keeps happening and it is a terrible waste of my money and it is entrapment.
that said, the "suspects" are evil little idiots. the most recent guy should have just been deported to Morocco. problem solved. the rest of them? I dunno... maybe you put them in an institution or just keep an eye out for them. I have little to no belief that those guys pose any threat to us.
as for the circus music, it is appropriate for the way things our done in our government. absolutely appropriate. i didn't read any of the comments and i don't know why you think that's a talking point.
circus; I was listening to it and was wondering what the meaning was you were trying to get across and scrolled dow to see what else this video might be saying and that's when I started reading the comments,after reading many of your posts I know you don't agree with the comments posted and I wondered what the heck is this ?
I know we bump heads on the train but I also know you don't follow the kind of thinking I read on the comments posted on the circus video,anyway the links were a great read and the other vid's were as well,
thanx.
Godfather.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
http://www.counterpunch.org/2007/03/07/ ... 1-attacks/
On the afternoon of September 11, 2001, an FBI bulletin known as a BOLO - "be on lookout" — was issued with regard to three suspicious men who that morning were seen leaving the New Jersey waterfront minutes after the first plane hit World Trade Center 1. Law enforcement officers across the New York-New Jersey area were warned in the radio dispatch to watch for a "vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack":
White, 2000 Chevrolet van with ‘Urban Moving Systems’ sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals.
http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/press/storage.htm
State Granted Access to Moving Company's Storage Facility
NEWARK- The State Division of Consumer Affairs ("Consumer Affairs") is asking all citizens who have goods stored at Urban Moving Systems' Weehawken warehouse to immediately contact Consumer Affairs, Attorney General John J. Farmer, Jr., and New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs Director Mark S. Herr announced today.
The State on Wednesday obtained a court order giving inspectors from Consumer Affairs access to the facility allowing consumers access to retrieve their goods and belongings. The State, at the same time, filed a lawsuit in Hudson County Superior Court against Urban Moving Systems and its owner Dominick Suter alleging violations of both the State's Consumer Fraud Act and regulations set forth in the Public Movers and Warehousing Licensing Act.
According to the complaint, on or about September 14, 2001, Suter departed from the United States and left no one acting as an agent for Urban.
The complaint also alleges that Suter violated the Mover's Act by, among other things, failing to provide Consumer Affairs the name of a current contact person or agent, not adequately responding to consumer requests for access to their belongings and not having an agent available for at least 20-30 per week to allow consumers access to their belongings.
"We became aware of the hardship consumers faced who could not get access to their belongings at Urban's warehouse," Attorney General Farmer said. "By obtaining this court order we can now offer consumers access to what is rightfully theirs. Our lawsuit should serve notice that we intend to prosecute those who violate our laws and undermine the public's trust."
"It appears that goods belonging to approximately 100 consumers are stored at the warehouse. Thus far we have only heard from 36 consumers," Herr said. "We have access to the facility for 30 days so we are urging consumers who have goods stored with Urban to contact us as soon as possible."
Consumers can gain access to the facility on an appointment basis and will have to provide proof of ownership to claim their goods, Herr said.
Consumers should contact Consumer Affairs at 973-504-6442 or 973-504-6228 to gain access to the Urban facility.
A violation of the Consumer Fraud Act carries a maximum penalty of $7,500 for the first offense and $15,000 for the second and each subsequent offense. A violation of the Licensing Act carries a penalty of $2,500 for the first offense and $5,000 for the second and each subsequent offense.
Deputy Attorney General Alan R. Niedz of the Division of Law is handling this matter for the State.
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