"Kidnapped For Christ"
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"Kidnapped For Christ" Trailer Is Maddening
This documentary tells the story of a group of American evangelicals who sent their gay children to a “therapeutic Christian boarding school” camp in the Dominican Republic, where they were severely disciplined so they could be “transform[ed] into healthy Christian adults". Release date is unknown.
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horribly sad...
The part where they say they put pain on the students to show them how much pain they are causing others is disgusting. Those people, their parents and family, put the pain on themselves because of their own intolerance...fucking assholes.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
this is all parents
the guilt we carry is immense
to be forgiven sometimes impossible
But everybody watch this birdie while the world goes to hell in a handbasket.
I got bigger fish to fry.
opposing anything gay is a pretty common theme amongst the christian teachings...
is it not the christians who try to "pray the gay away" or try to "cure" homosexuality?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
huh... ? :? ?
who was really 26
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
I'd have a hard time watching this movie. This kind of thing really pisses me off. Pure evil. :evil:
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
PJ-Philly 10/30-31/09
PJ-NYC 5/20-21/10
PJ20-East Troy 9/3-4/11
EV-Washington, DC 8/17/08
EV-Baltimore 6/15/09
EV-Philly 6/25/11
EV-Orlando 11/27-28/12
PJ-Wrigley 7/19/13
PJ-Brooklyn 10/18-19/2013
PJ-Charlottesville 10/29/2013
none of which do I know ... just the opposite in fact
So long as he signs before they find out!!!
On topic - this is really disgusting. Child abuse and should be prosecuted as such.
in fairness anti gay teachings are prevalent in both Christianity and Islam. or am I wrong and their is a Blue Oyster in downtown Tehran?
However, the small percentage that stones their children to death is probably less than the amount of parents that try to "convert" their children by having them kidnapped and sent to the Dominican republic, but I doubt either are really all that high.
I have no idea why that poster brought Islam into this, both religions have their horrible points...this one is about how horrible this school is..
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
religion is bad
when it is some people within that religion that are bad
it would be like drawing a conclusion saying all gays lack understanding and love
they promote hate and disrespect towards any and all that do not agree with them
they are angry and spiteful towards those who will not accept them
and even towards those that do!
this would be ridiculous to even entertain...
when in reality most gays are understanding and loving people
an inspiration, secure in their fight for rights, and accepting
of those who are discouraging
they remain respectful and determined to overcome
and have what they deserve... this done without hate ...
this why the movement is growing
this good common sense for a peaceful loving world ... bridges built by love
people are individuals within their beliefs and loves
and to generalize is to dismiss that
believe homosexuality is wrong? and that wrong....
Boy are you wrong if that is the case ... you may not see the individuals within the church
I guess
False
I believe ALL christian teachings believe homosexuality is wrong. Key word there is teachings now do I believe all christians believe homosexuality is wrong no. However, like my mother a devout christian who believes it IS wrong she also accepts them for what they are people who happen to love the same sex.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
http://www.twopaths.com/faq_homosexuality.htm
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'll never understand how the way one lives his/her own life has such an impact on another's peace of mind.
Wow. :!: :roll:
It's not Christian Hypocrisy,
its people who call themselves "Christians" who are uneducated about "their own" book.
The simple truth (and i'm not going to go too deep in to this until someone calls out for specifics, just for the sake of my time) is that VERY RARELY, IF EVER DOES ***ANY*** BOOK IN THE BIBLE SPECIFICALLY CONDONE A MALE-MALE OR FEMALE-FEMALE LOVE RELATIONSHIP.
MOST OF WHAT IS\HAS BEEN CONSTRUED AS ANTI-GAY SENTIMENT IN THE BIBLE STEMS FROM EITHER WOEFULLY IGNORANT OR MALEFICENT MISTRANSLATION OF TERMS.
The Old Testament certainly addresses a litany of morality issues, as it was clear that the Jewish people, coming out of Babylon were in deep need of "reminding" of right and wrong. The times when anything legitimately approaching condemnations of homosexuality DOES crop up in the Old Testament, these references are largely framed in the context of FERTILITY CULT WORSHIP \ PAGAN TEMPLE PROSTITUTION, ETC. (sure, we can argue over Leviticus ... but let's wait on that)
The Old Testament condemnations of SOMDOM are the ones most often confused with condemnations of "homosexuality". While in general terms Sodomites are often described as promiscuous or sexually immoral, if you read Ezekiel's claims about the sins of Sodom that list is: " pride, gluttony, sloth, greed, and failure to help the poor." Sodom was PROUD before the Lord and looked not after the care of it's own.
A Better Understanding of How The Story Of Sodom Got Perverted (haha)
The Myth of Sodom
REGARDING THE NEW TESTAMENT
THERE IS ***NOTHING*** IN THE NEW TESTAMENT REGARDING HOMOSEXUALITY ***OUTSIDE OF ROMANS, WHICH IS REFERRING TO LONG-AGO HISTORY AND MALE TEMPLE PROSTITUTION .
Regarding Romans:
Historical & Religious Context of Romans I
EVERY OTHER SINGLE "REFERENCE" TO HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE TERM "ARSENOKOITES". (we are free to debate this here, but this is to the best of my admittedly only partial knowledge... but if you want to debate, bring something to the table besides "that's bullshit")
This term, which in the long history of the Bible was translated as ***SODOMITES*** in newer translations started to appear translated as "abusers of themselves with mankind" which has become understood to mean "homosexuals".
THE TERM ARSENOKOITES, from the greek compound word arseno-koitai, LITERALLY MEANS "‘the male who has many beds’. THIS HAS ZERO TO DO WITH HOMOSEXUALITY.
I am not a giant "Defender of The Bible", but if you understand that the New Testament was a MOVEMENT OF GENERAL COMPASSION FOR MANKIND ***IN RESPONSE*** TO AN OVER-LEGALISTIC MORAL SYSTEM (Jewish law) ... you would have to be completely mislead to come to think that the New Testament or the Words of Jesus would ever condemn anyone for AN EXPRESSION OF LOVE.
In fact, Jesus, who claims he came to "add to" and not "take away from" the law, buttresses his entire case for these "additions to the law" upon the notion that the old laws too much specified what SHOULD NOT be done, instead of addressing what SHOULD be done.
DO NOT KILL YOUR BROTHER, that is okay, says Jesus,
but HAVE ONLY LOVING THOUGHTS IN YOUR HEART, is BETTER.
This is where he was going.
He wanted to ELEVATE consciousness so that people no longer operated only out of FEAR of a religious law, but out of LOVE AND COMPASSION FOR EACHOTHER.
He wanted people to scrutinize their own thoughts, words and actions SO GREATLY that they ONLY ever thought, said, or did what in their heart they knew was right and honorable.
He was NEVER concerned with specific legal provisions against ANYTHING.
He simply wanted to turn people away from ignorant sin and towards LOVE FOR GOD ***AND FOR EACHOTHER***.
What place does a blanket hatred for homosexuals have ANYWHERE in this context?
People on here, if you have this belief that the New Testament is some maddeningly hypocritical Hollier Than Though rant ... i encourage \ implore you to actually pick up a copy of the bible and just read a Gospel or two.
How you could come to the conclusion that it was hateful or divisive is beyond me. The ONLY division Jesus ever acknowledges ("but to bring a sword") encouraging is between The Unrepentant Sinner and The Saved. Reading beyond this much more than Right Vs. Wrong is probably not warranted, as Jesus was in that passage attempting to illustrate that those who are lost in selfish love and sin are often "violently" opposed to the light of truth (and thus he brings a sword, or inherent conflict). Most people (who aren't trying to score political points) are generally capable of understanding at a base level what a selfish, and "evil" or "wicked" (or "godless", heaven forbid) person is. Someone who has not come to understand their own one-ness with the rest of mankind, who may prop himself up by trodding down his brother, who may do undeniable wrong (murder, theft) and certainly who has nothing but selfish love in his heart. Even then, what is implored is to love him the best you can and help him find his way - to turn the other cheek.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
any church that follows the bible uses the bible to justify their anti gay stance.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Give me ANY BIBLE PASSAGE THAT CONDEMNS HOMOSEXUALITY,
AND THEN WE CAN TALK.
Most (if not all) of what is used to justify Anti-Gay sentiment STEMS FROM MINSUNDERSTANDING.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
My point is I get bored trashing religion all day in a chat room. My heart is for love, not hate.
Guess your point is your dad is a creep?
How can calling Christians "Nazi's" not be against the posting guidelines?
What would your reaction be if someone called all gays like yourself, a derogatory name like that on this forum?
I think you are empty inside.... which is why you spew so much hate at others.
Im going to pray for your hell-bound soul...