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mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
edited February 2012 in A Moving Train
I am sure you all have heard the quick version of this story as have I, but does anyone have the whole story

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/15/school-lunch-guidelines-p_n_1278803.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

the version I have heard all over talk radio and such cannot be the one that actually happened...no one is going to take a 4 year-olds lunch away like this are they?

anyone have the real story hear? or is that the real story?
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  • Vitalogy ManVitalogy Man Posts: 174
    Q: Obama couldn't really be THAT bad, could he???

    A: Yes.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Telling a kid what to bring to school for lunch? That's FUCKED up.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Vitalogy Man wrote:
    Q: Obama couldn't really be THAT bad, could he???

    A: Yes.

    what?
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Telling a kid what to bring to school for lunch? That's FUCKED up.
    No shit! Looked like the kid had something relatively healthy too....and even if not ideal, I worry about schools playing parent.

    (digging your signature, btw)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    I noticed in the article it said the guideline stipulate one serving of "meat".

    Do you think it means just "protein"? Is it really written to be "meat". That would be strange.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    In what bizarro world would cafeteria-made chicken nuggets be more nutritious than a turkey sandwich?

    I get that the goal is to make sure that kids are getting healthy meals, but why not just discuss the issue with the parents if a kid's meals become a problem?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    blackredyellow wrote:
    In what bizarro world would cafeteria-made chicken nuggets be more nutritious than a turkey sandwich?

    I get that the goal is to make sure that kids are getting healthy meals, but why not just discuss the issue with the parents if a kid's meals become a problem?

    No way, we have to regulate everything. We need a new law all the time. Rules based decisions instead of principle based decisions.... how's that working for us?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    it just seems bonkers to me

    although no one should be surprised...that train has left the station, and it is going to be almost impossible to derail it...

    hopefully we find out this story is fabricated or something....I just cannot believe it the way it is being reported
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    hopefully we find out this story is fabricated or something....I just cannot believe it the way it is being reported

    It's got to be. That lunch was fine - protein with the turkey, dairy with the cheese, possibly grain with the bread and 2 servings of fruit/veg (banana and possibly apple juice if real juice). Potato chips could have been left out...

    I'll all for education when it comes to nutrition and what best place than school (after home) as it is a 'level playing ground' for all the kids, regardless of background. If kids do have REALLY unhealthy meals EVERY day that hinders their performance/behaviour at school - speak with the parents, find out why, educate. Nutrition needs to be looked at on a whole day basis. Maybe the kid's breakfast is his main meal with loads of good stuff and maybe the kid likes home cooked meals but not 'lunch box' stuff.

    Again, education is the key. And help if there is an issue, whatever it may be.

    I bet you most of us here don't really eat a healthy lunch either...
  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    I still can't believe that schools have a list of acceptable foods and banned foods. My girlfriend's nieces and nephews can't bring Oreos to school for a snack with their lunch and their drinks have to be from a list of approved items. Why are schools being allowed to take rights away from parents like that? I understand requiring schools to offer healthy foods but I don't understand trying to dictate to parents which foods and drinks are acceptable for their kids.

    One thing that wasn't clear to me in the article (maybe I didn't read it carefully enough) is was the sandwich taken away or was the girl forced to eat 3 chicken nuggets in addition to the sandwich? I can't see how 3 chicken nuggets by themselves would be better than the sandwich, but I also can't understand how forcing a child to eat extra food is good, either. What if she doesn't like the school's chicken nuggets? It's ridiculous.
  • bjo1015bjo1015 Posts: 104
    edited February 2012
    Monster Rain wrote:
    One thing that wasn't clear to me in the article (maybe I didn't read it carefully enough) is was the sandwich taken away or was the girl forced to eat 3 chicken nuggets in addition to the sandwich? I can't see how 3 chicken nuggets by themselves would be better than the sandwich, but I also can't understand how forcing a child to eat extra food is good, either. What if she doesn't like the school's chicken nuggets? It's ridiculous.

    My understanding was that the school had to provide "additional" food to supplement what was lacking in the home lunch, so I took that to mean the kid was given 3 chicken nuggets in addition to the sack lunch.

    The school my kids attend has nutrition guidelines and an "approved" snack list. I can understand having the guidelines and a snack list. I've volunteered in the classrooms before and the last thing some of those kids need is food with high sugar content like cookies, fruit snacks, and such. There is a state award for schools who set healthy and nutritious meal and snack guidelines and meet certain standards. I would be interested to know if any funding comes from winning these awards.

    I do agree that this kids meal sounds like something that should have passed the guidelines.

    **Edit**I read a linked newstory from the original article and it stated the child care provider cannot take the child's food away. The mother is quoted in the article saying that the preschool provided additional food and the child chose to eat the chicken nuggets over the lunch her mom packed for her. That's pretty much a no brainer, what child is going to eat a turkey and cheese sandwich over chicken nuggets?
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  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    Monster Rain wrote:
    I still can't believe that schools have a list of acceptable foods and banned foods. My girlfriend's nieces and nephews can't bring Oreos to school for a snack with their lunch and their drinks have to be from a list of approved items. Why are schools being allowed to take rights away from parents like that? I understand requiring schools to offer healthy foods but I don't understand trying to dictate to parents which foods and drinks are acceptable for their kids.

    As you say the SCHOOL itself has a duty to offer healthy foods (that would therefore exclude chicken nuggets unless they are oven cooked chicken fillets!) and remove salty, sugary, fatty foods from their 'menu' or vending machines. But a list of approved/banned foods?!?! I think they may suggest to parents that fizzy drinks, for example, may not be the best thing and maybe replace with water or 'real' fruit juice. Though my daughter's primary school was a nut free school as a few kids had very severe nut allergies. A bit silly in a way as they were not allowed, for example peanut butter or chocolate bars with nuts in them (the obvious) but they sort of forgot that most kids did not come from nut free households and therefore there would be cross contamination, just as dangerous for the kids with allergies. What the school was doing though was giving out a piece of fruit at recess time and, for the younger kids, they got milk if they wished. Free.
  • guitar59guitar59 Posts: 1,221
    ...bring on the processed chicken please... the lunch I sent today for my kids would be deemed nutritionally inadequate. They have strawberries and kiwi, a little bag of carrots and snap peas, a sandwich (meat and cheese), organic corn tortilla chips, water and a ...wagon wheel :(

    This is a little bizarre...all this talk of fries being a veggie. It reminded me of Jamie Oliver and his Food Revolution (wasn't surprised to see his name mentioned). The episode that shocked me the most was when his stir fry dish was deemed not nutritious enough because it did not meet the veggie requirement, but the burger and fry meal, with an optional salad did. The fries were a veggie there as well. My kids must complain about me endlessly, because in our household, all potatoes are considered a starch and do not count as their vegetable (even when baked or mashed).
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,191
    Vitalogy Man wrote:
    Q: Obama couldn't really be THAT bad, could he???

    A: Yes.

    Yes, Obama is moonlighting as an inspector for the State of North Carolina.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    hedonist wrote:

    (digging your signature, btw)

    Thanks much!
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Vitalogy Man wrote:
    Q: Obama couldn't really be THAT bad, could he???

    A: Yes.

    Yes, Obama is moonlighting as an inspector for the State of North Carolina.

    :lol:

    I was wondering where this came from
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,208
    I call bullshit on the story. They may be able to dictate what is SERVED for lunch at school but to dictate to a parent what they have made for their child?

    We havent reached this low a point , have we?


    Also , maybe its just where I'm from from, but preschool in a public school setting? ONLY K-12 in my local school district.
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,379
    The turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips and apple juice, according to the Carolina Journal, didn't meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines. So to meet those requirements, the child was given chicken nuggets. The agent was inspecting the entire class' lunch boxes that day.


    WTF, seriously.
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    mickeyrat wrote:
    I call bullshit on the story. They may be able to dictate what is SERVED for lunch at school but to dictate to a parent what they have made for their child?

    We havent reached this low a point , have we?


    Also , maybe its just where I'm from from, but preschool in a public school setting? ONLY K-12 in my local school district.

    Same here too but this school does have preschool

    http://whes.hcs.k12.nc.us/class_listing ... 59BECE758D
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