:roll: BFD... If anybody thinks that this flag was made to represent the Nazi SS obviously doesn't know much about the marines or the "Scout Snipers " for that matter :roll: If anything we should all be thanking these brave men.
and furthermore:
I thought that flags didn't mean anything to some on here. Or is that just the American Flag when its burned or when people like Obama's pal William AKA Bill Ayers stands on it..
my goodness we have a winner ! that is to say I agree with Wave and Brandon.
but look at the rest of you complaining about hate while at the same time displaying hate toward another human being..pot this is kettle. you guys see a flag and get your panties in a wad and all the suddeen you're all experts on the subject of nazi and sniper topics.these guys are doing a job for our country and us that non of you have the balls to do yourselfs but you can sure sit in safty and talk shit about pissing on a dead bad guy or a flag in a friggin picture...again I gotta laugh ! you people have no fuckin idea(unless we have a war time vet on the train) what it's like to go out and fight and kill or be killed, our troops afford us the freedoms we have from war in our own lands and fear of attack in our own homes and you guys whine like you know what you're talking about...give me a friggin break,try putting yourselfs in their position then when you piss your pants and start to cry out of total fear think what would you do ?????
Godfather.
Well played, G'father. Quick question, what is a war time vet? What qualifies? I am a Veteran of Foreign Wars despite never serving in the goddamned desert. War time vet sounds like it came from the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
It is impossible to be mostly:
1.Veteran
2.Pregnant
3. A woman (my buddy, John, would put this one to the test)
3a. Unique
Humility is not a bad thing; most great things were done before I was born.
:roll: BFD... If anybody thinks that this flag was made to represent the Nazi SS obviously doesn't know much about the marines or the "Scout Snipers " for that matter :roll: If anything we should all be thanking these brave men.
and furthermore:
I thought that flags didn't mean anything to some on here. Or is that just the American Flag when its burned or when people like Obama's pal William AKA Bill Ayers stands on it..
my goodness we have a winner ! that is to say I agree with Wave and Brandon.
but look at the rest of you complaining about hate while at the same time displaying hate toward another human being..pot this is kettle. you guys see a flag and get your panties in a wad and all the suddeen you're all experts on the subject of nazi and sniper topics.these guys are doing a job for our country and us that non of you have the balls to do yourselfs but you can sure sit in safty and talk shit about pissing on a dead bad guy or a flag in a friggin picture...again I gotta laugh ! you people have no fuckin idea(unless we have a war time vet on the train) what it's like to go out and fight and kill or be killed, our troops afford us the freedoms we have from war in our own lands and fear of attack in our own homes and you guys whine like you know what you're talking about...give me a friggin break,try putting yourselfs in their position then when you piss your pants and start to cry out of total fear think what would you do ?????
Godfather.
Well played, G'father. Quick question, what is a war time vet? What qualifies? I am a Veteran of Foreign Wars despite never serving in the goddamned desert. War time vet sounds like it came from the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
It is impossible to be mostly:
1.Veteran
2.Pregnant
3. A woman (my buddy, John, would put this one to the test)
3a. Unique
I ment no disrespect to any vet sorry, my grandfather and his brother were war time vets (WWII) my grand father came home(omaha beach battle) with 2 holes in his back and a never ending supply of shrapnel in his legs that always surfaced up until his death in 1979...what I ment to say to the train is if people don't know what it is like to be in the position to kill or be killed in service of our country they really have no business talking crap about our service men and women.
I thank veterans. I thank a lot of them. However, some people have placed themselves into military when their lives have no other option. We're all raised to believe we're great we're fighting for freedom for ourselves and other countries. When it comes down to killing innocent civilians, rape and perfect abuse of power and letting troops run around like animals, would make one question the purpose. Nothing is pretty about war. Why are we there in the first place? They'll puff up and propagate that same very lie in your head we were all taught as children. You think its proper to send men into foreign countries to secure resources for corporate interest (to line his pockets ) who doesnt give a shit about you is worth giving your life to? Honor to what ends? Then once your fucked in the head or maimed end up at terrible VA hospital, where your care and time of honorable service can be measured by how shitty the healthcare service is?
Honorable warriors fight for justice in the grander scheme of things. Not for the grander scheme of those who justify their selfish means.
I thank veterans. I thank a lot of them. However, some people have placed themselves into military when their lives have no other option. We're all raised to believe we're great we're fighting for freedom for ourselves and other countries. When it comes down to killing innocent civilians, rape and perfect abuse of power and letting troops run around like animals, would make one question the purpose. Nothing is pretty about war. Why are we there in the first place? They'll puff up and propagate that same very lie in your head we were all taught as children. You think its proper to send men into foreign countries to secure resources for corporate interest (to line his pockets ) who doesnt give a shit about you is worth giving your life to? Honor to what ends? Then once your fucked in the head or maimed end up at terrible VA hospital, where your care and time of honorable service can be measured by how shitty the healthcare service is?
Honorable warriors fight for justice in the grander scheme of things. Not for the grander scheme of those who justify their selfish means.
you're not calling anybody out...you're looking for a place to shift the blame, this topic was about troops with a flag not the ungreatful civilan theory that brought them there.
Oh, I can call out Jarheads. Its their brother hood that does it to them. They'd even say something non sensical to defend them, which is fine GF.
Now, Im an ungrateful civilian?
Is that the psyop tactic to keep civilians in some pity stolkholmish syndrome? Shame me because I dont support selfish corporate actions, see troops with a Nazi flag, of which secretly such people who running this gig actually support?
My family has fought in all of the countries wars accept the newer actions in middle east but have two brothers of age willing to go.
Shame on you for being so blind.
Our founding fathers would be shitting a f'n brick right now.
I thank veterans. I thank a lot of them. However, some people have placed themselves into military when their lives have no other option. We're all raised to believe we're great we're fighting for freedom for ourselves and other countries. When it comes down to killing innocent civilians, rape and perfect abuse of power and letting troops run around like animals, would make one question the purpose. Nothing is pretty about war. Why are we there in the first place? They'll puff up and propagate that same very lie in your head we were all taught as children. You think its proper to send men into foreign countries to secure resources for corporate interest (to line his pockets ) who doesnt give a shit about you is worth giving your life to? Honor to what ends? Then once your fucked in the head or maimed end up at terrible VA hospital, where your care and time of honorable service can be measured by how shitty the healthcare service is?
Honorable warriors fight for justice in the grander scheme of things. Not for the grander scheme of those who justify their selfish means.
You have lady-parts. Also: you wouldn't know freedom if it crawled out of your bong and voted for Ralph Nader. You have not ever, nor will you ever lay anything on the line for something that you believe. You don't have the balls to do anything. There are men who walk around this world and make things happen and they sleep soundly every night knowing that you will never be one of them. You don't believe in anything, you're scared.
Humility is not a bad thing; most great things were done before I was born.
I thank veterans. I thank a lot of them. However, some people have placed themselves into military when their lives have no other option. We're all raised to believe we're great we're fighting for freedom for ourselves and other countries. When it comes down to killing innocent civilians, rape and perfect abuse of power and letting troops run around like animals, would make one question the purpose. Nothing is pretty about war. Why are we there in the first place? They'll puff up and propagate that same very lie in your head we were all taught as children. You think its proper to send men into foreign countries to secure resources for corporate interest (to line his pockets ) who doesnt give a shit about you is worth giving your life to? Honor to what ends? Then once your fucked in the head or maimed end up at terrible VA hospital, where your care and time of honorable service can be measured by how shitty the healthcare service is?
Honorable warriors fight for justice in the grander scheme of things. Not for the grander scheme of those who justify their selfish means.
By "u people', I suppose you're addressing Veterans....
Why don't you just admit- you don't serve because of cowardice? Or is it that the drug-tests are a little too stringent?
Oh, I can call out Jarheads. Its their brother hood that does it to them. They'd even say something non sensical to defend them, which is fine GF.
Now, Im an ungrateful civilian?
Is that the psyop tactic to keep civilians in some pity stolkholmish syndrome? Shame me because I dont support selfish corporate actions, see troops with a Nazi flag, of which secretly such people who running this gig actually support?
My family has fought in all of the countries wars accept the newer actions in middle east but have two brothers of age willing to go.
Shame on you for being so blind.
Our founding fathers would be shitting a f'n brick right now.
no....I'm not blind,I can see and read..people here are to quick to damn the troops for actions during war time with out understanding what they're going thru physically and mentally or what they have been trained for to help keep them alive, our men and women today were not drafted,,they joined knowing there is a war going on because they feel strongly about our country and it's freedom we have here and what ever complaints people have with our government and its policys should not be shifted to our troops with any disrespect to them.
and yes our founding fathers would probably shit a brick if they could see the state of our state and federal government but I am also sure that they would have nothing but respect and admiration for the men and women who serve our country.
also I didn't mean to call you a ungreatful civillan sorry about that.
Oh, I can call out Jarheads. Its their brother hood that does it to them. They'd even say something non sensical to defend them, which is fine GF.
Now, Im an ungrateful civilian?
Is that the psyop tactic to keep civilians in some pity stolkholmish syndrome? Shame me because I dont support selfish corporate actions, see troops with a Nazi flag, of which secretly such people who running this gig actually support?
My family has fought in all of the countries wars accept the newer actions in middle east but have two brothers of age willing to go.
Shame on you for being so blind.
Our founding fathers would be shitting a f'n brick right now.
What's wrong with esprit de corps? Have you ever been part of a team? Debate team? Cooking/laundry team? Anything? I apologize, dude, I didn't realize that you couldn't understand what we're talking about. The only hard work that you've ever done has been for your benefit, so you couldn't possibly understand why a man would stand up and be counted, be held responsible for his actions or, in your case, inaction. I'd be willing to bet that you have terrible posture. For chrissakes, hold your head up like you believe in something!
Humility is not a bad thing; most great things were done before I was born.
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
No shit, you are blurring the lines of protection American people, democracy and instituting freedom in other countries (which doesnt exist or is barely hanging by thread atm) vs profitable corp self interest who have also at the same stolen the voice democracy from the people here at home.
Oh, I can call out Jarheads. Its their brother hood that does it to them. They'd even say something non sensical to defend them, which is fine GF.
Now, Im an ungrateful civilian?
Is that the psyop tactic to keep civilians in some pity stolkholmish syndrome? Shame me because I dont support selfish corporate actions, see troops with a Nazi flag, of which secretly such people who running this gig actually support?
My family has fought in all of the countries wars accept the newer actions in middle east but have two brothers of age willing to go.
Shame on you for being so blind.
Our founding fathers would be shitting a f'n brick right now.
What's wrong with esprit de corps? Have you ever been part of a team? Debate team? Cooking/laundry team? Anything? I apologize, dude, I didn't realize that you couldn't understand what we're talking about. The only hard work that you've ever done has been for your benefit, so you couldn't possibly understand why a man would stand up and be counted, be held responsible for his actions or, in your case, inaction. I'd be willing to bet that you have terrible posture. For chrissakes, hold your head up like you believe in something!
Now I dont understand? Read above post on the last page. I understand perfectly fine.
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
"Freedom" is not the ability to vote, or the ability to travel state-to-state without papers, it is the solace that you enjoy from knowing that you have no regrets, that you gave your best. Everything I have, start to finish is what you get. This isn't a practice, there are no dress rehearsals. I'm not sure that I'll ever get this chance again and I'm surely not going to waste it by not participating.
Humility is not a bad thing; most great things were done before I was born.
I want no papers to travel, which is allowed by me by the constitution... so essentially I dont need a drivers license, which technically is papers.
Let me add, since I forgot because I dont fly much. I need those papers to travel via airplane during interstate travel or by bus or any other mode of transportation.
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
9/11 was not just some uppity thing. that was planned for years because of our foreign policy in the middle east. if it was not the world trade center and the pentagon it was going to be something else. our ignorance and arrogance in our foreign policy led directly to 9/11 and we have not changed our policy one iota. we are still a target and we will get hit again.
my personal freedom is not threatened. i can still walk down the street, say and do whatever i want, as long as it is not breaking any laws or harming anyone else.
the phrase "our freedom is being threatened" needs to be completely re-thought. if people were so concerned about freedoms being taken away, they would be rebelling against the patriot act. turns out, we willingly allowed the patriot act to be implemented, so we are just as complicit in stripping of our own liberties as anyone else foreign or domestic...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
9/11 was not just some uppity thing. that was planned for years because of our foreign policy in the middle east. if it was not the world trade center and the pentagon it was going to be something else. our ignorance and arrogance in our foreign policy led directly to 9/11 and we have not changed our policy one iota. we are still a target and we will get hit again.
my personal freedom is not threatened. i can still walk down the street, say and do whatever i want, as long as it is not breaking any laws or harming anyone else.
the phrase "our freedom is being threatened" needs to be completely re-thought. if people were so concerned about freedoms being taken away, they would be rebelling against the patriot act. turns out, we willingly allowed the patriot act to be implemented, so we are just as complicit in stripping of our own liberties as anyone else foreign or domestic...
I want no papers to travel, which is allowed by me by the constitution... so essentially I dont need a drivers license, which technically is papers.
Do you need a SSN?
Do you need some Prozac? Do you want to discuss the purposes of a strawman?
Strawman? Didn't he belt 40+ dingers in '87? While hoovering a cubic shitload of blow? Can't really blame the guy, have you seen his nose? It's like a two-car garage.
Humility is not a bad thing; most great things were done before I was born.
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
No shit, you are blurring the lines of protection American people, democracy and instituting freedom in other countries (which doesnt exist or is barely hanging by thread atm) vs profitable corp self interest who have also at the same stolen the voice democracy from the people here at home.
Thats truth.
really ? "now who's being nieve kate" (quote from favorite movie ) again you guys are going off topic here but if you have to to justify your statements I'm cool with it but while you sit there without fear of an IED in your drive-way or being able to go the store with out being blown up by a suicide bomber think why.
I have never said we have perfect government..who does ? and I would like to see some real CHANGE in our countries leadership and policies but I also look at the big picture and what it takes to keep our safety and freedom we enjoy today,I may not understand completly the cause of war other than what we are fed on t.v but at least I'm not pretending to know and then call it truth, there are so many horrible things happening in the world today and some of you just think the US has everything to do with it then in the same breath you complain that the US does nothing to fix it....then if the US does try you say that we did it for the oil and corp.America...really ? o.k....damned if we do and damned if we don't, right ?
our "freedom" is not and has never ever been under attack by any foreign country or terrorist group.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
No shit, you are blurring the lines of protection American people, democracy and instituting freedom in other countries (which doesnt exist or is barely hanging by thread atm) vs profitable corp self interest who have also at the same stolen the voice democracy from the people here at home.
Thats truth.
What are you doing for your country? Besides "serving as a citizen", whatever that means...
What do you do that is NOT self-serving?
(Let me get a tissue box- I feel a soup-kitchen story coming...)
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
No shit, you are blurring the lines of protection American people, democracy and instituting freedom in other countries (which doesnt exist or is barely hanging by thread atm) vs profitable corp self interest who have also at the same stolen the voice democracy from the people here at home.
Thats truth.
What are you doing for your country? Besides "serving as a citizen", whatever that means...
What do you do that is NOT self-serving?
(Let me get a tissue box- I feel a soup-kitchen story coming...)
What does any of this have to do with what one person on this board does? Why single this person out, making a comparison as to what that person does whether or not that is self serving or not, vs. what the US govt might have done that is extremely questionable in terms of attacking a country? (blowing up Iraq)
Even if SweetChilds entire life is devoted to self serving (food, shelter) is it at the cost of thousands of lives? hows that for a stretch?!
I have terrible habit and record of being selfless warrior and champion for the down trodden who have been tread on one too many times .... shame on me.
The Schutzstaffel ('SS') goes down in history as one of the the most feared fighting forces the world has known, since the days of the Spartans. There have been and are today, many elite fighting forces, but none of them can touch the level of fear as the SS.
That said, I can understand the Marines, Scout Snipers evoking of the image of the SS in a war zone, if you wish to strike fear in your enemy. You are basically saying, you are a brutal killing machine who shows no mercy, possesses no morals and there is no escaping death, should you confront them.
THAT said... it is NOT the way to win the 'Hearts and Minds' of the people of a nation you are occupying, militarily. And it is NOT good P.R. to most outside of the battlezone. I understand the pride... but, guys, put down the fucking cameras and keep the weapons at hand.
...
My personal take... we get what we ask for.
We are the ones who send these guys into fucking shitholes for what? Our Pride? Our Glory? It's real easy for fucking COWARDS to send someone else to fight for them... claiming bullshit like ,"WE kicked their asses". What WE? What the FUCK did YOU DO? Did you spend the past 18 months in a fucking shithole... away from your family... with fucking assholes taking pot shots at you? NO!!! YOU DIDN'T. You sat on your fat fucking asses and cheered from the cheap seats in the grandstands like a big fucking PUSSY!
We need to THINK... before we send our guys out to face the bullets. We created this shit sandwich... bon appitite, fuck faces.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Well played, G'father. Quick question, what is a war time vet? What qualifies? I am a Veteran of Foreign Wars despite never serving in the goddamned desert. War time vet sounds like it came from the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
It is impossible to be mostly:
1.Veteran
2.Pregnant
3. A woman (my buddy, John, would put this one to the test)
3a. Unique
I ment no disrespect to any vet sorry, my grandfather and his brother were war time vets (WWII) my grand father came home(omaha beach battle) with 2 holes in his back and a never ending supply of shrapnel in his legs that always surfaced up until his death in 1979...what I ment to say to the train is if people don't know what it is like to be in the position to kill or be killed in service of our country they really have no business talking crap about our service men and women.
Godfather.
Godfather.
I love calling u people out.
I thank veterans. I thank a lot of them. However, some people have placed themselves into military when their lives have no other option. We're all raised to believe we're great we're fighting for freedom for ourselves and other countries. When it comes down to killing innocent civilians, rape and perfect abuse of power and letting troops run around like animals, would make one question the purpose. Nothing is pretty about war. Why are we there in the first place? They'll puff up and propagate that same very lie in your head we were all taught as children. You think its proper to send men into foreign countries to secure resources for corporate interest (to line his pockets ) who doesnt give a shit about you is worth giving your life to? Honor to what ends? Then once your fucked in the head or maimed end up at terrible VA hospital, where your care and time of honorable service can be measured by how shitty the healthcare service is?
Honorable warriors fight for justice in the grander scheme of things. Not for the grander scheme of those who justify their selfish means.
you're not calling anybody out...you're looking for a place to shift the blame, this topic was about troops with a flag not the ungreatful civilan theory that brought them there.
Godfather.
Now, Im an ungrateful civilian?
Is that the psyop tactic to keep civilians in some pity stolkholmish syndrome? Shame me because I dont support selfish corporate actions, see troops with a Nazi flag, of which secretly such people who running this gig actually support?
My family has fought in all of the countries wars accept the newer actions in middle east but have two brothers of age willing to go.
Shame on you for being so blind.
Our founding fathers would be shitting a f'n brick right now.
You have lady-parts. Also: you wouldn't know freedom if it crawled out of your bong and voted for Ralph Nader. You have not ever, nor will you ever lay anything on the line for something that you believe. You don't have the balls to do anything. There are men who walk around this world and make things happen and they sleep soundly every night knowing that you will never be one of them. You don't believe in anything, you're scared.
By "u people', I suppose you're addressing Veterans....
Why don't you just admit- you don't serve because of cowardice? Or is it that the drug-tests are a little too stringent?
lol.
no....I'm not blind,I can see and read..people here are to quick to damn the troops for actions during war time with out understanding what they're going thru physically and mentally or what they have been trained for to help keep them alive, our men and women today were not drafted,,they joined knowing there is a war going on because they feel strongly about our country and it's freedom we have here and what ever complaints people have with our government and its policys should not be shifted to our troops with any disrespect to them.
and yes our founding fathers would probably shit a brick if they could see the state of our state and federal government but I am also sure that they would have nothing but respect and admiration for the men and women who serve our country.
also I didn't mean to call you a ungreatful civillan sorry about that.
Godfather.
i am sooooo fucking tired of hearing this oversimplistic, jingoistic, excuse for our imperialism...
our INTERESTS are possible targets however, and i am not gonna go step on a land mine so everyone else can have some oil.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
What's wrong with esprit de corps? Have you ever been part of a team? Debate team? Cooking/laundry team? Anything? I apologize, dude, I didn't realize that you couldn't understand what we're talking about. The only hard work that you've ever done has been for your benefit, so you couldn't possibly understand why a man would stand up and be counted, be held responsible for his actions or, in your case, inaction. I'd be willing to bet that you have terrible posture. For chrissakes, hold your head up like you believe in something!
wanna take a guess why we are not being attacked ? btw we have been attacked on our own soil(Pearl Harbor/911) but yes we live in comfort knowing we have the best military in the world to protect us.
Godfather.
Thats truth.
"Freedom" is not the ability to vote, or the ability to travel state-to-state without papers, it is the solace that you enjoy from knowing that you have no regrets, that you gave your best. Everything I have, start to finish is what you get. This isn't a practice, there are no dress rehearsals. I'm not sure that I'll ever get this chance again and I'm surely not going to waste it by not participating.
Let me add, since I forgot because I dont fly much. I need those papers to travel via airplane during interstate travel or by bus or any other mode of transportation.
my personal freedom is not threatened. i can still walk down the street, say and do whatever i want, as long as it is not breaking any laws or harming anyone else.
the phrase "our freedom is being threatened" needs to be completely re-thought. if people were so concerned about freedoms being taken away, they would be rebelling against the patriot act. turns out, we willingly allowed the patriot act to be implemented, so we are just as complicit in stripping of our own liberties as anyone else foreign or domestic...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Compelling argument, SweetChild.
really ? "now who's being nieve kate" (quote from favorite movie
I have never said we have perfect government..who does ? and I would like to see some real CHANGE in our countries leadership and policies but I also look at the big picture and what it takes to keep our safety and freedom we enjoy today,I may not understand completly the cause of war other than what we are fed on t.v but at least I'm not pretending to know and then call it truth, there are so many horrible things happening in the world today and some of you just think the US has everything to do with it then in the same breath you complain that the US does nothing to fix it....then if the US does try you say that we did it for the oil and corp.America...really ? o.k....damned if we do and damned if we don't, right ?
Godfather.
What are you doing for your country? Besides "serving as a citizen", whatever that means...
What do you do that is NOT self-serving?
(Let me get a tissue box- I feel a soup-kitchen story coming...)
What does any of this have to do with what one person on this board does? Why single this person out, making a comparison as to what that person does whether or not that is self serving or not, vs. what the US govt might have done that is extremely questionable in terms of attacking a country? (blowing up Iraq)
Even if SweetChilds entire life is devoted to self serving (food, shelter) is it at the cost of thousands of lives? hows that for a stretch?!
That said, I can understand the Marines, Scout Snipers evoking of the image of the SS in a war zone, if you wish to strike fear in your enemy. You are basically saying, you are a brutal killing machine who shows no mercy, possesses no morals and there is no escaping death, should you confront them.
THAT said... it is NOT the way to win the 'Hearts and Minds' of the people of a nation you are occupying, militarily. And it is NOT good P.R. to most outside of the battlezone. I understand the pride... but, guys, put down the fucking cameras and keep the weapons at hand.
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My personal take... we get what we ask for.
We are the ones who send these guys into fucking shitholes for what? Our Pride? Our Glory? It's real easy for fucking COWARDS to send someone else to fight for them... claiming bullshit like ,"WE kicked their asses". What WE? What the FUCK did YOU DO? Did you spend the past 18 months in a fucking shithole... away from your family... with fucking assholes taking pot shots at you? NO!!! YOU DIDN'T. You sat on your fat fucking asses and cheered from the cheap seats in the grandstands like a big fucking PUSSY!
We need to THINK... before we send our guys out to face the bullets. We created this shit sandwich... bon appitite, fuck faces.
Hail, Hail!!!
Yup.