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Chinese Bear Farms- this is flat out horrible

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Beyond flat out horrible.

    Beyond fucked up.

    Makes my heart ache for those helpless noble beauties.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Animal cruelty fing disgusts me.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,056
    I agree. Any form of animal cruelty is disgusting. Same thing with animals raised for food. If you have to eat meat- know the source. Most are raised in cruel captivity.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Very sad...got to love the Chinese and their lust for their traditional medicines....bear farms such as noted by the OP and their cash support of the poaching of tigers and rhinos around the world. :evil:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i've opted out watching the video clip, the photographs are horrorific enough. why are the Chinese so fucking cruel to animals? deep frying fish while the fish is still alive, served up with its gills still going. things like this.

    now we have bears forced to live in tiny cages so some little bastard can suck out the bile from the creature's bladder.

    we need less and less and less of this kinda bullshit. 10,000 bears held captive in cages so small they can't even move. i am fully confident these folks have zero conscious same as someone who works in a chicken farm where they raise the chickens for eggs and meat. losers really.

    i actually hope the navy seals raid these bear farms and blast every single Chinese bear farmer they see. this is exactly how i would operate if i were in charge. hell,why not throw a few good Chinese bear farmers into a cage and lower them into a vat of bubbling cooking oil?
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,056
    chadwick wrote:
    i've opted out watching the video clip, the photographs are horrorific enough. why are the Chinese so fucking cruel to animals? deep frying fish while the fish is still alive, served up with its gills still going. things like this.

    now we have bears forced to live in tiny cages so some little bastard can suck out the bile from the creature's bladder.

    we need less and less and less of this kinda bullshit. 10,000 bears held captive in cages so small they can't even move. i am fully confident these folks have zero conscious same as someone who works in a chicken farm where they raise the chickens for eggs and meat. losers really.

    i actually hope the navy seals raid these bear farms and blast every single Chinese bear farmer they see. this is exactly how i would operate if i were in charge. hell,why not throw a few good Chinese bear farmers into a cage and lower them into a vat of bubbling cooking oil?

    I wouldn't go quite that far but I sure do understand the sentiment. I've said elsewhere that I support the acceptance of cultural differences but not when it comes to cruelty to animals or harm to the planet. Animals and trees etc are members of this planet as well. In fact, I think it's humans who are the guests here.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    brianlux wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    i've opted out watching the video clip, the photographs are horrorific enough. why are the Chinese so fucking cruel to animals? deep frying fish while the fish is still alive, served up with its gills still going. things like this.

    now we have bears forced to live in tiny cages so some little bastard can suck out the bile from the creature's bladder.

    we need less and less and less of this kinda bullshit. 10,000 bears held captive in cages so small they can't even move. i am fully confident these folks have zero conscious same as someone who works in a chicken farm where they raise the chickens for eggs and meat. losers really.

    i actually hope the navy seals raid these bear farms and blast every single Chinese bear farmer they see. this is exactly how i would operate if i were in charge. hell,why not throw a few good Chinese bear farmers into a cage and lower them into a vat of bubbling cooking oil?

    I wouldn't go quite that far but I sure do understand the sentiment. I've said elsewhere that I support the acceptance of cultural differences but not when it comes to cruelty to animals or harm to the planet. Animals and trees etc are members of this planet as well. In fact, I think it's humans who are the guests here.
    humans are idiots and yeah we are guests here.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • cowboypjfancowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    Man, this is sad. I couldn't watch the video either. It's times like these that I wish I didn't read the news. Sad..
  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    http://ingenira.hubpages.com/hub/A-Tear ... True-Story

    I saw this article last summer, it just heartbreaking what's going on over there.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux wrote:
    Animals and trees etc are members of this planet as well. In fact, I think it's humans who are the guests here.
    All due respect to you - and none toward the fuckers who commit these acts - but...we're no less (or better) than any other life here.

    If humans are guests, then so is everything else that evolves, grows, lives and dies on this planet.

    "we're all just visiting, all just breaking like waves"
  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    Some people would consider us lesser species than other animals. I can't imagine why?


    I couldnt look at the terror of this article. Bears probably stopped eating out of losing their will to live. Wouldn't you?
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Don't get me wrong - I think humans fuck up just fine - but we ARE still animals.

    I guess I'm just tired of this "people are shit" mentality. There's such beauty out there - kindness, giving, compassion - and it shouldn't be negated or overlooked just because some folks are scum.
  • SweetChildofMineSweetChildofMine Posts: 842
    I agree with you on that. Cynicism is the generalization of "one apple spoiling the whole bunch". Im not saying, that people are bad, but on this downward spiral of humanity, how could you not? As all of come together to have voice we still are ignored. There are those who would rather live life with blinders on or be so self absorbed which is just as bad. Its easier to be ignorant which makes the few bad apples even more powerful.

    So would you say those running our world? Look out your window.

    I would say people are overall good which is the majority of us. My finger is pointed at the few that spoil it for all of us.

    But in the meantime, what are you gonna do the few rotten apples? We all suffer because of them. If you get rid of them there will be another set of dumbasses right behind them.
  • Thirty Bills UnpaidThirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    I'm making a general statement here... but I'm not down with a lot of accepted Chinese culture. A prevalent attitude seems to exist where not only is cruelty to animals deemed okay, but cruelty to humans is as well. Case in point: the toddler run over by two different vehicles on a really slow street and ignored by the next 18 passer byers as she lied there dying.

    The girl did die from her injuries (if you are not familiar with the case). When a coach I have worked with facebooked one of his ex-players who lives in China commenting on the lack of empathy, the player responded with, "There's too many people in China anyways."
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,056
    hedonist wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Animals and trees etc are members of this planet as well. In fact, I think it's humans who are the guests here.
    All due respect to you - and none toward the fuckers who commit these acts - but...we're no less (or better) than any other life here.

    If humans are guests, then so is everything else that evolves, grows, lives and dies on this planet.

    "we're all just visiting, all just breaking like waves"
    Good point- I suppose in a way we are all just guests here because no living species- plant or animal- will outlast the life of our planet. And I don't know if anyone has the right to say we're any better or worse than any other life form but we certainly are different. We are the only species that consciously lives outside of nature's cycles. We are the only species that (for a while anyway) intentionally disrupts the balance that exists within nature and within the natural communities we inhabit. We are also the only species capable of consciously loving and doing good. So we are conflicted between the good and the harm we do. So "better" or" less" than other species? It depends on your perspective I suppose. But "different" we surely are.

    My own personal feelings towards humans may sound conflicted as well. I think of myself as basically misanthropic but at the same time very much love those whom I love, try to be respectful to all and very much enamored of the natural world. I hate what we as a species are doing to this planet and I hate the evil we too often do to each other but I am in awe of the love and kindness we are capable- when we choose to- of giving to each other and the world as a whole... when we chose to.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Bronx BombersBronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    Ex-Guns N' Roses and current Velvet Revolver drummer Matt Sorum and a bunch of his rocker peers are teaming up to speak out about cruelty against Asian bears.

    With the guidance of Animals Asia, Sorum, Def Leppard frontman Joe Elliott, ex-Guns N’ Roses guitarist Gilby Clarke, current Velvet Revolver/former GNR bassist Duff McKagan, ex-Skid Row vocalist Sebastian Bach, Billy Idol guitarist Steve Stevens, and Deep Purple vocalist Glenn Hughes have recorded a minute-long PSA to protest the practice of Asian bear bile farming.

    More than 10,000 bears--mainly moon bears, but also sun bears and brown bears--are kept on farms in China, and around 2,400 more are farmed in Vietnam. The bears are milked regularly for their bile, which is used in traditional Chinese medicine and is believed by many to help reduce fever, protect the liver, improve eyesight, break down gallstones, and act as an anti-inflammatory. But the animals are kept in cages, and the brutal process involves using catheters through open wounds.

    "Watching the Animals Asia movies was a shock and an education for me," says Sorum, who was recently appointed the Animals Asia Ambassador for the United States. "I previously had no idea of the issue but felt compelled to do anything I could to help. I was inspired further when I met [Animals Asia founder and CEO] Jill [Robinson], and when she later asked me to be the U.S. Ambassador for Animals Asia, I was honored to accept. This is all about those of us in the West standing up, alongside those who inspire positive change in China. We must continue to grow the number of voices in opposition to this cruel, horrific industry."

    http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-p ... 55321.html

    Nice to see some rockers bringing awareness to the horrible torture that these animals go through at the hands of these ignorant savages.
    "Did you see the thing on the news about their treatment of animals and animal welfare? Absolutely horrific. You can't help but feel that the Chinese are a subspecies."

    Morrissey
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I just watched a video of a bicycle riding bear racing a bicycle riding monkey. The bear wrecked the monkey and then savagly attacked it.

    Shanghai Wild Animal Park

    :fp:
  • groovemegrooveme Posts: 353
    Didn't watch the video. These things give me nightmares. I am a vegetarian, mostly vegan, because I cannot abide animal cruelty of any kind. I have seen way to many videos of animal cruelty in China and elsewhere. And I agree that there does seem to be less concern about animal cruelty there. But also little respect for human rights as well, so why would they care about the animals?

    But I will say that those of us here, at least the Americans, must be sure that our own house is in order before condemning "the Chinese". Conditions here for billions of chickens, pigs, and even dogs in puppy mills are not much better. I wish people would spend more time thinking about that when they choose what to eat or where to buy it (there are alternatives to factory farmed eggs, meat, etc).
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,958
    Catch up China.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • AnnafalkAnnafalk Posts: 4,004
    brianlux wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    Animals and trees etc are members of this planet as well. In fact, I think it's humans who are the guests here.
    All due respect to you - and none toward the fuckers who commit these acts - but...we're no less (or better) than any other life here.

    If humans are guests, then so is everything else that evolves, grows, lives and dies on this planet.

    "we're all just visiting, all just breaking like waves"
    Good point- I suppose in a way we are all just guests here because no living species- plant or animal- will outlast the life of our planet. And I don't know if anyone has the right to say we're any better or worse than any other life form but we certainly are different. We are the only species that consciously lives outside of nature's cycles. We are the only species that (for a while anyway) intentionally disrupts the balance that exists within nature and within the natural communities we inhabit. We are also the only species capable of consciously loving and doing good. So we are conflicted between the good and the harm we do. So "better" or" less" than other species? It depends on your perspective I suppose. But "different" we surely are.

    My own personal feelings towards humans may sound conflicted as well. I think of myself as basically misanthropic but at the same time very much love those whom I love, try to be respectful to all and very much enamored of the natural world. I hate what we as a species are doing to this planet and I hate the evil we too often do to each other but I am in awe of the love and kindness we are capable- when we choose to- of giving to each other and the world as a whole... when we chose to.

    Well written :)
    I think human's are the only ones that can be responsible for the way we handle, because we have the ability to reflect on what we do..whilst animals act on instinct.
    I think the meaning of life is about learning but it scares me when some humans are so far off, acting like they don't have feelings at all.. :cry:
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