Tribe sues brewers, stores over liquor problems

mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
edited February 2012 in All Encompassing Trip
this reminds me of people suing mcdonalds over having fatty food

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46329414/ns ... zQqX1wS0n0

LINCOLN, Nebraska — An American Indian tribe sued some of the world's largest beer makers Thursday, claiming they knowingly contributed to devastating alcohol-related problems on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.
The Oglala Sioux Tribe of South Dakota said it is demanding $500 million in damages for the cost of health care, social services and child rehabilitation caused by chronic alcoholism on the reservation, where alcohol is banned.
The lawsuit names Anheuser-Busch InBev Worldwide, SAB Miller, Molson Coors Brewing Company, MIllerCoors LLC and Pabst Brewing Company as defendants.
The lawsuit says one in four children born on the reservation suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome or fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. The average life expectancy is estimated between 45 and 52 years, the shortest in North America except for Haiti, according to the lawsuit. The average American life expectancy is 77.5 years.
The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court of Nebraska also targets four offsite beer stores in Whiteclay, a Nebraska town that despite having only about a dozen residents sold nearly 5 million cans of beer/size] in 2010. Most of its customers come from the reservation on the town's border.
Leaders of the tribe blame the Whiteclay businesses for bootlegging on the reservation.
The lawsuit alleges that the beer makers supplied the stores with "volumes of beer far in excess of an amount that could be sold in compliance with the laws of the state of Nebraska" and the tribe.
A spokeswoman for Anheuser-Busch InBev Worldwide said she was not yet aware of the lawsuit Thursday afternoon. Representatives for the four beer stores declined comment or were unavailable.
The reservation has struggled with alcoholism and poverty for generations, despite an alcohol ban in place since 1832. Pine Ridge legalized alcohol in 1970 but restored the ban two months later, and an attempt to allow it in 2004 died after a public outcry.
Pine Ridge encompasses some of the nation's poorest counties. U.S. census statistics place Shannon County, South Dakota, as the third-poorest, with a median household income of $27,300 and nearly half of the population meeting federal poverty standards.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    edited February 2012
    Good for them!!! :lol::lol: I'm suing Clorox for not making my whites whiter!
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  • voidofmanvoidofman Posts: 4,009
    I'm suing the porn industry over masturbation problems.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    voidofman wrote:
    I'm suing the porn industry over masturbation problems.


    :lol:
  • People will sue anybody for anything these days. Exactly what is wrong with our society these days....everyone always has to blame someone else for their problems. No one ever takes responsibility for their own actions.
  • I'm a TruckI'm a Truck Posts: 3,508
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    People will sue anybody for anything these days. Exactly what is wrong with our society these days....everyone always has to blame someone else for their problems. No one ever takes responsibility for their own actions.
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    People will sue anybody for anything these days. Exactly what is wrong with our society these days....everyone always has to blame someone else for their problems. No one ever takes responsibility for their own actions.
    Preach on brutha.

    Also when I clicked this I figured there was a good chance it would be the Choctaw Tribe around here...they'll be next :D
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  • If they win this suit does that mean that gambling addicts can sue tribes that own casinos?
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    If they win this suit does that mean that gambling addicts can sue tribes that own casinos?


    i dunno but the point is it is illegal to have alcohol on that reservation, which is considered sovereign nation in the eyes of the government.

    so, let's say i am from belgium, where the age limit for beer is 16 and liquor 18, would you all be cool with me coming over here and buying any 16 year old that asks cases of beer? any 18 year old that asks all the liquor they want? or would you want me to respect your laws?

    those stores know they are selling them something that is enabling them to violate the law, do they or the manufacturers (which the article says is even violating US laws) have any responsibility in this?

    what if a reservation legalized meth and heroin, you'd be cool with kids going there and buying it then bringing it home?
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  • These aren't kids buying the alcohol and they aren't doing it on the Indian reservation. They are adults leaving the reservation and bringing it back. The legal drinking age is 21. If the tribe knows it is happening and it's a big enough problem for them that they feel the need to sue companies and stores that are abiding by the laws of their state then maybe the tribe should set up check points on the way back onto the reservation in order to keep the stuff out. If the reservation felt the need to legalize meth or heroin, I'd expect that neighboring towns would set up check points along the road to stop people from bringing it into their towns.

    Like I said in my example, what about gambling addicts who gamble away their money at Indian casinos? There are states that do not allow gambling, but the reservations are allowed to have casinos. So what if someone with a gambling addiction drives to the reservation to gamble where it's legal? Does the state then have the right to sue the tribe?
    If they win this suit does that mean that gambling addicts can sue tribes that own casinos?


    i dunno but the point is it is illegal to have alcohol on that reservation, which is considered sovereign nation in the eyes of the government.

    so, let's say i am from belgium, where the age limit for beer is 16 and liquor 18, would you all be cool with me coming over here and buying any 16 year old that asks cases of beer? any 18 year old that asks all the liquor they want? or would you want me to respect your laws?

    those stores know they are selling them something that is enabling them to violate the law, do they or the manufacturers (which the article says is even violating US laws) have any responsibility in this?

    what if a reservation legalized meth and heroin, you'd be cool with kids going there and buying it then bringing it home?
  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Well, they sure aren't doing anything to help with the stereotype that Native Americans have alcohol problems. This is simple economics, if there wasn't a demand these stores wouldn't stay in business, much less sell 5 million cans of beer in a year. If they didn't get their beer there, they'd just get it somewhere else. You'd probably have bootleggers on the reservation hauling it in and selling it at a marked up price. Where there is a demand there will always be a supply, legal or not.
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  • Well, they sure aren't doing anything to help with the stereotype that Native Americans have alcohol problems. This is simple economics, if there wasn't a demand these stores wouldn't stay in business, much less sell 5 million cans of beer in a year. If they didn't get their beer there, they'd just get it somewhere else. You'd probably have bootleggers on the reservation hauling it in and selling it at a marked up price. Where there is a demand there will always be a supply, legal or not.

    Which is pretty much how prohibition played out and the war on drugs is playing out.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,808
    Thought this was gonna be about baseball and The Cleveland Indians suing the Milwaukee Brewers ;)
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    If they win this suit does that mean that gambling addicts can sue tribes that own casinos?


    yes
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    If they win this suit does that mean that gambling addicts can sue tribes that own casinos?


    That would seem logical right? I couldn't imagine the lawsuit the OP posted about could really hold water in a court case.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Thought this was gonna be about baseball and The Cleveland Indians suing the Milwaukee Brewers ;)
    :lol:

    Fun Fact. In the movie Major League, the Indian's home games were shot in Milwaukee's County Stadium.
  • DURPDURP Posts: 2,180
    People will sue anybody for anything these days. Exactly what is wrong with our society these days....everyone always has to blame someone else for their problems. No one ever takes responsibility for their own actions.

    Yup. It's not like the alcohol companies went to the reservation held a gun to peoples head and drink or else. Lawsuits like this are why courts are so tied with bullshit. The judge should laugh this out of court.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Jason P wrote:
    Thought this was gonna be about baseball and The Cleveland Indians suing the Milwaukee Brewers ;)
    :lol:

    Fun Fact. In the movie Major League, the Indian's home games were shot in Milwaukee's County Stadium.

    and now...both stadiums are gone. :(

    i miss old cleveland municipal....
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