Black Sabbath to continue without Bill Ward

Brisk.

How can they record without MR. BILLLLL. WAARRRRD. ?

Does that mean the tour without him?

"We were saddened to hear yesterday via Facebook that Bill declined publicly to participate in our current Black Sabbath plans...we have no choice but to continue recording without him although our door is always open... We are still in the UK with Tony. Writing and recording the new album and on a roll... See you at Download!!!

- Tony, Ozzy and Geezer"

http://www.facebook.com/BlackSabbath

DewieCox

This should shed some light on the subject....Sounds like Sharon is probably being herself.

http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/arch ... 95447.aspx

Black Sabbath Drummer Wants ‘Signable Contract’



Saying he’s vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract, original Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward warns that he may not be on board for the band’s reunion tour.

In a lengthy posting on his website, Ward said he would “love nothing more than to be able to proceed with the Black Sabbath album and tour.” But, as with all good things, there is a catch.

“However, I am unable to continue unless a ‘signable’ contract is drawn up; a contract that reflects some dignity and respect toward me as an original member of the band.

“Last year, I worked diligently in good faith with Tony [Iommi], Ozzy [Osbourne] and Geezer [Butler]. And on 11/11/11, again in good faith, I participated in the L.A. press conference. Several days ago, after nearly a year of trying to negotiate, another ‘unsignable’ contract was handed to me.”

Ward doesn’t actually say why the contract was “unsignable." Instead, he focused on what might happen if he signed the contract offered to him.

“The place I’m in feels lousy and lonely because as much as I want to play and participate, I also have to stand for something and not sign on,” Ward wrote. “If I sign as-is, I stand to lose my rights, dignity and respectability as a rock musician.”

If you’re thinking Ward’s objection to the contract offered him is all about the money, the drummer says he’s not “greed-driven.”

“I’m not holding out for a ‘big piece’ of the action (money) like some kind of blackmail deal. I’d like something that recognizes and is reflective of my contributions to the band, including the reunions that started fourteen years ago.

“After the last tour I vowed to never again sign on to an unreasonable contract. I want a contract that shows some respect to me and my family, a contract that will honor all that I’ve brought to Black Sabbath since its beginning.”

Ward’s essay is the second speed bump to emerge for Black Sabbath’s reunion tour. Last month the band announced guitarist Tony Iommi had been diagnosed with lymphoma but did not say whether the illness would impact the tour.

So far, Black Sabbath has only announced Euro dates for its global outing. The reunion tour is scheduled to be in Moscow at Olympiiski May 18.


--Jay Smith

Brisk.

Yes I did read that but is it just a recording/album contract or for the entire Black Sabbath deal?

DewieCox

Brisk. wrote:

Yes I did read that but is it just a recording/album contract or for the entire Black Sabbath deal?

Says in there "he would loving nothing more than to proceed with album and tour, but" so it sounds like he won't be in it at all.

The good news is it sounds like things are looking up for Iommi, but man they gotta have Ward or what's the point?

Brisk.

DewieCox wrote:

Brisk. wrote:

Yes I did read that but is it just a recording/album contract or for the entire Black Sabbath deal?

Says in there "he would loving nothing more than to proceed with album and tour, but" so it sounds like he won't be in it at all.

The good news is it sounds like things are looking up for Iommi, but man they gotta have Ward or what's the point?

BINGO!

stargirl69

Sharon has to be at the core of this,she is a viper.

Yefa

If this is the case they should get Vinny Appice. He has played drums for Black Sabbath and Heaven & Hell (Mob Rules lineup of Black Sabbath). I saw Heaven & Hell twice in 2007 and he played drums very well.