Afghan woman slain for giving birth to daughter

mysticweed

KUNDUZ, Afghanistan — An Afghan man killed his wife for giving birth to a third daughter rather than the son he'd hoped for, police said Monday.
The 28-year-old victim, who was known by the one name of Storai, was strangled by her husband — a local militia member — and his mother on Saturday, authorities said.
Storai had given birth to the couple's third daughter three months ago in Mohasili village in Afghanistan's northern Kunduz province.
Police said they arrested the victim's mother-in-law in connection with her death, but Storai's husband was still at large, likely sheltered by heavily-armed militia colleagues.
"The existence of militiamen is a huge problem and therefore we face difficulty in arresting him," Kunduz police chief Sufi Habib said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46187660/ns ... ybqjlxtp1c


once again
holy fucking hell

MayDay Malone

This can't be true... Islam is a peaceful religion.


Somehow, this has to be America's fault...

Godfather.

MayDay Malone wrote:

This can't be true... Islam is a peaceful religion.


Somehow, this has to be America's fault...

Godfather.

Nastasja

This is so fucked up :evil:

inmytree

MayDay Malone wrote:

This can't be true... Islam is a peaceful religion.


Somehow, this has to be America's fault...

murder is soooo hilarious...

stay classy... :thumbup:

MayDay Malone

inmytree wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

This can't be true... Islam is a peaceful religion.


Somehow, this has to be America's fault...

murder is soooo hilarious...

stay classy... :thumbup:

Its not murder, silly...

It's Islam. Stop discriminating please.

It is not our job to help that little girl, as so many on here say, "We are not the world's police."

Boycott Caterpillar, but turn your eyes from this immediately.... :roll:

inmytree

MayDay Malone wrote:

Its not murder, silly...

It's Islam. Stop discriminating please.

It is not our job to help that little girl, as so many on here say, "We are not the world's police."

Boycott Caterpillar, but turn your eyes from this immediately.... :roll:

don't back peddle and attempt to use humor to deflect attention from your despicable joke...

you're comment was pathetic and classless...and you know it...

Drowned Out

MayDay Malone wrote:

inmytree wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

This can't be true... Islam is a peaceful religion.


Somehow, this has to be America's fault...

murder is soooo hilarious...

stay classy... :thumbup:

Its not murder, silly...

It's Islam. Stop discriminating please.

It is not our job to help that little girl, as so many on here say, "We are not the world's police."

Boycott Caterpillar, but turn your eyes from this immediately.... :roll:

Who's turning their eyes? Honour killings are wrong. It's an extremist/fundamentalist act that I put on par with any hate-based crime (christians murdering gays, white supremists murdering blacks or jews, for example). It's murder justified by the philosophy of the murderer, and it's sickening. You won't find anyone defending them here, if you do, point them out to me......so wtf are you trying to say? My bet would be that youre trying to use this as justification of more murder, and bringing the occupation of palestine into this proves that....ya, stay classy.

mysticweed

what slays me the most is the mother-in-law's participation

the father determines the sex of a baby
bigotry=ignorance

MayDay Malone

inmytree wrote:

MayDay Malone wrote:

Its not murder, silly...

It's Islam. Stop discriminating please.

It is not our job to help that little girl, as so many on here say, "We are not the world's police."

Boycott Caterpillar, but turn your eyes from this immediately.... :roll:

don't back peddle and attempt to use humor to deflect attention from your despicable joke...

you're comment was pathetic and classless...and you know it...

The whole thing was humor, kid.

C'mon, catch up...

fuck

Drowned Out wrote:

Who's turning their eyes? Honour killings are wrong. It's an extremist/fundamentalist act that I put on par with any hate-based crime (christians murdering gays, white supremists murdering blacks or jews, for example). It's murder justified by the philosophy of the murderer, and it's sickening. You won't find anyone defending them here, if you do, point them out to me......so wtf are you trying to say? My bet would be that youre trying to use this as justification of more murder, and bringing the occupation of palestine into this proves that....ya, stay classy.

Actually, it's not even "extremist" or "fundamentalist." I feel like people toss these terms around too often and so they don't know what they actually mean. Fundamentalist means that at least SOME component of the act is taken from Islam, it's only grossly exaggerated, misapplied, misinterpreted, etc. However, in this case, not a single aspect is taken from Islam. If anything, it goes against every Islamic teaching, in every single school of thought. Even the crazy Saudi Wahhabi school of thought. It's not even extremist/fundamentalist, it's just straight up un-Islamic. It has some crazy cultural components, but even that is so hard to judge because no one here is an expert of Afghan culture.

Do people not understand how stupid it is to read articles on the random things that go on in Afghanistan like this? This does not affect our situation there in any way. The fact that the media is reporting this story in the U.S. is PURE propaganda. How can no one see this? This would be akin to the Taliban reporting stories in Afghanistan of some random dumb fuck American in Arkansas who kills his wife and 3 kids. What does this have to do with anything? Afghanis don't understand American culture; it'd be completely stupid of them to apply that random local news story to their perception of the U.S. If anything, they should completely disregard it. Just as we should in this case. It's one thing to be upset on a humanitarian level, but completely another thing to extract any actual information on Afghanistan from this story--something I think that people do too often, even subconsciously.

cincybearcat

DOWNbytheRiver wrote:

what slays me the most

Interesting choice of words.


And as someone pointed out, even IF (I know, big if) it was ok to kill someone for not being able to produce a son, they killed the wrong person.

chadwick

we should rescue all the women and girls from over there
children too

edit big time before hitting submit

Drowned Out

fuck wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

Who's turning their eyes? Honour killings are wrong. It's an extremist/fundamentalist act that I put on par with any hate-based crime (christians murdering gays, white supremists murdering blacks or jews, for example). It's murder justified by the philosophy of the murderer, and it's sickening. You won't find anyone defending them here, if you do, point them out to me......so wtf are you trying to say? My bet would be that youre trying to use this as justification of more murder, and bringing the occupation of palestine into this proves that....ya, stay classy.

Actually, it's not even "extremist" or "fundamentalist." I feel like people toss these terms around too often and so they don't know what they actually mean. Fundamentalist means that at least SOME component of the act is taken from Islam, it's only grossly exaggerated, misapplied, misinterpreted, etc. However, in this case, not a single aspect is taken from Islam. If anything, it goes against every Islamic teaching, in every single school of thought. Even the crazy Saudi Wahhabi school of thought. It's not even extremist/fundamentalist, it's just straight up un-Islamic. It has some crazy cultural components, but even that is so hard to judge because no one here is an expert of Afghan culture.

I understand that it doesn't fit your interpretation of the qur'an, but do most of the people committing these acts not use it to justify their act?...ie: interpret it differently? And wouldn't that make it an extremist interpretation? They are using their own extreme interpretation to justify immoral acts. The same way christian or jewish fundamentalists do with their own holy scripture. Don't even get me started with the Buddhists Of course, there are differing levels of extremist / fundamentalism. I think maybe you're getting defensive based on semantics.... understandable given the climate...But I'm not trying to speak negatively about Islam in general, at all.

fuck wrote:

Do people not understand how stupid it is to read articles on the random things that go on in Afghanistan like this? This does not affect our situation there in any way. The fact that the media is reporting this story in the U.S. is PURE propaganda. How can no one see this? This would be akin to the Taliban reporting stories in Afghanistan of some random dumb fuck American in Arkansas who kills his wife and 3 kids. What does this have to do with anything? Afghanis don't understand American culture; it'd be completely stupid of them to apply that random local news story to their perception of the U.S. If anything, they should completely disregard it. Just as we should in this case. It's one thing to be upset on a humanitarian level, but completely another thing to extract any actual information on Afghanistan from this story--something I think that people do too often, even subconsciously.

:thumbup: I agree with this 100%, and have made this point a few times on this board. A triple murder on the far side of the world doesn't typically get much press unless it fits the agenda of the govt and corps controlling the media. Anyone who wants proof should google 'haiti voodoo killings' and compare the amount of media coverage given to those fringe-culture/extremist killings, and which outlets are providing that coverage, in comparison to a google search for "Islamic honour killings".

fuck

Drowned Out wrote:

fuck wrote:

Drowned Out wrote:

Who's turning their eyes? Honour killings are wrong. It's an extremist/fundamentalist act that I put on par with any hate-based crime (christians murdering gays, white supremists murdering blacks or jews, for example). It's murder justified by the philosophy of the murderer, and it's sickening. You won't find anyone defending them here, if you do, point them out to me......so wtf are you trying to say? My bet would be that youre trying to use this as justification of more murder, and bringing the occupation of palestine into this proves that....ya, stay classy.

Actually, it's not even "extremist" or "fundamentalist." I feel like people toss these terms around too often and so they don't know what they actually mean. Fundamentalist means that at least SOME component of the act is taken from Islam, it's only grossly exaggerated, misapplied, misinterpreted, etc. However, in this case, not a single aspect is taken from Islam. If anything, it goes against every Islamic teaching, in every single school of thought. Even the crazy Saudi Wahhabi school of thought. It's not even extremist/fundamentalist, it's just straight up un-Islamic. It has some crazy cultural components, but even that is so hard to judge because no one here is an expert of Afghan culture.

I understand that it doesn't fit your interpretation of the qur'an, but do most of the people committing these acts not use it to justify their act?...ie: interpret it differently? And wouldn't that make it an extremist interpretation? They are using their own extreme interpretation to justify immoral acts. The same way christian or jewish fundamentalists do with their own holy scripture. Don't even get me started with the Buddhists Of course, there are differing levels of extremist / fundamentalism. I think maybe you're getting defensive based on semantics.... understandable given the climate...But I'm not trying to speak negatively about Islam in general, at all.

I know you're not speaking negatively in general. But even the accusation that this is an extremist/fundamentalist fringe is incorrect, is my position. There's nothing in Islam that talks about 'honor killings' (God, I hate that phrase. So contrived). In fact, the only thing in Islam that does talk about honor killings is a condemnation of it, and I'm not talking about my interpretation alone, which is why I said "in every single school of thought." If you reread my post now, I think you'll get my point. Such killings are not type of some fringe interpretation of Islam; they are isolated events that may have some crazy/fringe cultural components, but even that is a stretch given the fact that I don't know Afghan culture that well. Just like we treat every murder in the U.S. as an isolated incident, so too should we treat these killings, was the point of the second part of my post (which you agreed with). Thus, relating this to Islam in any way, even as 'fundamentalist', would be far too simplified. You can't do that without a full analysis of Islam, Afghan culture, the relationship of the two, and the incident itself, which we just don't have the time for.

MookiesLaw

fuck wrote:

Do people not understand how stupid it is to read articles on the random things that go on in Afghanistan like this? This does not affect our situation there in any way. The fact that the media is reporting this story in the U.S. is PURE propaganda. How can no one see this? This would be akin to the Taliban reporting stories in Afghanistan of some random dumb fuck American in Arkansas who kills his wife and 3 kids. What does this have to do with anything? Afghanis don't understand American culture; it'd be completely stupid of them to apply that random local news story to their perception of the U.S. If anything, they should completely disregard it. Just as we should in this case. It's one thing to be upset on a humanitarian level, but completely another thing to extract any actual information on Afghanistan from this story--something I think that people do too often, even subconsciously.

Post of the year.