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US bases out of Okinawa

butterjambutterjam Posts: 215
edited January 2012 in A Moving Train
"the President of Ecuador seems to have found the magic formula in his proposal that any U.S. base in Ecuador be matched by an Ecuadorean base in Florida"

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Japane ... 4-664.html
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    from the article:

    Year after year, the people of the United States remain blissfully unaware that, as in so many other places around the world, our military occupation of Okinawa is ruining people's lives.

    not true. no blissfull ignorance. We won the war. My grandpa, a Marine, took a bullet in Okinawa. I say we stay.

    Imagine, however, just for a moment, that even one Japanese military base existed in the United States, and imagine that even one Japanese soldier committed a single crime. Can you imagine some things that U.S. television talking heads might say?

    Can't imagine that. We won the war.

    The Constitution that the United States imposed on Japan 65 years ago forbids war preparation, yet the United States trains its forces in Japan to fight wars elsewhere in the world.
    I'm here to help. We won the war.
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    from the article:

    Year after year, the people of the United States remain blissfully unaware that, as in so many other places around the world, our military occupation of Okinawa is ruining people's lives.

    not true. no blissfull ignorance. We won the war. My grandpa, a Marine, took a bullet in Okinawa. I say we stay.

    Imagine, however, just for a moment, that even one Japanese military base existed in the United States, and imagine that even one Japanese soldier committed a single crime. Can you imagine some things that U.S. television talking heads might say?

    Can't imagine that. We won the war.

    The Constitution that the United States imposed on Japan 65 years ago forbids war preparation, yet the United States trains its forces in Japan to fight wars elsewhere in the world.
    I'm here to help. We won the war.

    Leave
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We won the war.

    I prefer "defeated the enemy".
    I don't think you win anything when killing hundreds of thousands, even as necessary as it might have seemed.

    How long do you suggest we stay there with these bases? is there a period of time that must pass before we can remove our presence from an area that we fought against? How many countries do we military bases in?
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • Sludge FactorySludge Factory Posts: 976
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We won the war.

    I prefer "defeated the enemy".
    I don't think you win anything when killing hundreds of thousands, even as necessary as it might have seemed.

    How long do you suggest we stay there with these bases? is there a period of time that must pass before we can remove our presence from an area that we fought against? How many countries do we military bases in?

    This whole thing is just asanine...and people wonder why there are those out there who wish to do harm to America. It's because we never LISTEN to their concerns and just trample over them. "Our way or the highway" has never been a good motto when trying to win the hearts and minds of others. It is time we leave all these bases that don't do much more than create potential for more blowback against the US.
  • MayDay MaloneMayDay Malone Posts: 641
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    from the article:

    Year after year, the people of the United States remain blissfully unaware that, as in so many other places around the world, our military occupation of Okinawa is ruining people's lives.

    not true. no blissfull ignorance. We won the war. My grandpa, a Marine, took a bullet in Okinawa. I say we stay.

    Imagine, however, just for a moment, that even one Japanese military base existed in the United States, and imagine that even one Japanese soldier committed a single crime. Can you imagine some things that U.S. television talking heads might say?

    Can't imagine that. We won the war.

    The Constitution that the United States imposed on Japan 65 years ago forbids war preparation, yet the United States trains its forces in Japan to fight wars elsewhere in the world.
    I'm here to help. We won the war.

    I love this.

    "We won the war."

    .
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MayDay Malone wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    from the article:

    Year after year, the people of the United States remain blissfully unaware that, as in so many other places around the world, our military occupation of Okinawa is ruining people's lives.

    not true. no blissfull ignorance. We won the war. My grandpa, a Marine, took a bullet in Okinawa. I say we stay.

    Imagine, however, just for a moment, that even one Japanese military base existed in the United States, and imagine that even one Japanese soldier committed a single crime. Can you imagine some things that U.S. television talking heads might say?

    Can't imagine that. We won the war.

    The Constitution that the United States imposed on Japan 65 years ago forbids war preparation, yet the United States trains its forces in Japan to fight wars elsewhere in the world.
    I'm here to help. We won the war.

    I love this.

    "We won the war."

    .

    I'm sure you do. It's called trolling.
  • MayDay MaloneMayDay Malone Posts: 641
    No...

    It's called WINNING.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We won the war.

    I prefer "defeated the enemy".
    I don't think you win anything when killing hundreds of thousands, even as necessary as it might have seemed.

    How long do you suggest we stay there with these bases? is there a period of time that must pass before we can remove our presence from an area that we fought against? How many countries do we military bases in?

    This whole thing is just asanine...and people wonder why there are those out there who wish to do harm to America. It's because we never LISTEN to their concerns and just trample over them. "Our way or the highway" has never been a good motto when trying to win the hearts and minds of others. It is time we leave all these bases that don't do much more than create potential for more blowback against the US.
    this is a great post. that is our problem. we do not listen to what other countries try to tell us. our arrogance and know-it-all attitude make it impossible to hear the concerns of other countries. and even if we actually hear what they are saying, they will never convince us to honor their wishes. sometimes the only way to get someone's attention is a suckerpunch to the nose, and that is what 9/11 was. and yet we have learned nothing from that punch in the nose. it is just insanity to me...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    We won the war.

    I prefer "defeated the enemy".
    I don't think you win anything when killing hundreds of thousands, even as necessary as it might have seemed.

    How long do you suggest we stay there with these bases? is there a period of time that must pass before we can remove our presence from an area that we fought against? How many countries do we military bases in?

    500px-US_military_bases_in_the_world.svg.png

    Far, Far Too Many In This WORLD...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_mi ... _world.svg


    We probably have over 700 military bases around the world, can you imagine how much it costs just to sustain that many??? http://www.alternet.org/story/47998/

    Chalmers Johnson author of Sorrows Of The Empire speaks freely on our military and what he says here is ABSOLUTELY the TRUTH!...
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-VPr_T7 ... ng_freely/

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Wow, GunderP, thanks for that info. Its amazing, and just more clarification of how/why we spend a considerable amount more than any other country in the world on military.

    But it doesnt end there! If newt is elected, we'll take over the moon too! ;)
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... =allsearch
    Pick up my debut novel here on amazon: Jonny Bails Floatin (in paperback) (also available on Kindle for $2.99)
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    500px-US_military_bases_in_the_world.svg.png
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    Wow, GunderP, thanks for that info. Its amazing, and just more clarification of how/why we spend a considerable amount more than any other country in the world on military.

    But it doesnt end there! If newt is elected, we'll take over the moon too! ;)
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... =allsearch

    Did you notice in the above maps we the US don't have any military bases in countries with nuclear weapons
    . Nothing in India, China, Russia or in most countries without a vital natural resource we need. I wonder why that is or is that we just can't be a bully to the entire world?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    g under p wrote:
    But it doesnt end there! If newt is elected, we'll take over the moon too! ;)
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... =allsearch

    Did you notice in the above maps we the US don't have any military bases in countries with nuclear weapons
    . Nothing in India, China, Russia or in most countries without a vital natural resource we need. I wonder why that is or is that we just can't be a bully to the entire world?

    Peace[/quote]

    That's just pure coincidence. ;)
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