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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    The ripple effect of Brady's title w/ TB will be interesting. 

    According to reports, Russell Wilson is unhappy in Seattle & wants more say in picking players.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Merkin Baller said:
    The ripple effect of Brady's title w/ TB will be interesting. 

    According to reports, Russell Wilson is unhappy in Seattle & wants more say in picking players.
    Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. 


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,822
    I like Russ but agree that letting a player pick the players is foolish.  Factoring in who might play well together is smart, but that is for the GM to determine based on any feedback they can garner from players, coaches, etc....
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Its the NBA model. (AKA Taking my talents to Souf Beach)
    Players in that league have a ridiculous amount of pull in where they go or who joins them. NFL players see that and want similar.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,414
    It could be really good for some teams and a disaster for others. I think back to when a bunch of Vikings players persuaded Favre to come out of retirement and play for them. Worked out really well for 1 season, but blew the chance at a SB. Team chemistry is huge, but you don't want some prima donna even if they have a shit ton of talent. Seems like something that a GM should already be doing. Listen to what your captains have to say about needs, but not necessarily act on every idea brought forth.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Poncier said:
    Its the NBA model. (AKA Taking my talents to Souf Beach)
    Players in that league have a ridiculous amount of pull in where they go or who joins them. NFL players see that and want similar.
    The size of the team makes it impossible for a QB to try to manage the economics and salary cap of the roster.  It may have some short term benefit, but long term would be a disaster for the organization.  You would have to be a fool to let a player into that space.  Completely different than the NBA.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Its the NBA model. (AKA Taking my talents to Souf Beach)
    Players in that league have a ridiculous amount of pull in where they go or who joins them. NFL players see that and want similar.
    The size of the team makes it impossible for a QB to try to manage the economics and salary cap of the roster.  It may have some short term benefit, but long term would be a disaster for the organization.  You would have to be a fool to let a player into that space.  Completely different than the NBA.
    I agree, but no question some NFL players want the same amount of leverage as NBA players have.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Its the NBA model. (AKA Taking my talents to Souf Beach)
    Players in that league have a ridiculous amount of pull in where they go or who joins them. NFL players see that and want similar.
    The size of the team makes it impossible for a QB to try to manage the economics and salary cap of the roster.  It may have some short term benefit, but long term would be a disaster for the organization.  You would have to be a fool to let a player into that space.  Completely different than the NBA.
    I agree, but no question some NFL players want the same amount of leverage as NBA players have.
    No question about it.  Is Wilson trying to get involved on the D side too, or just offensive weapons? 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    F Me In The Brain said:
    I like Russ but agree that letting a player pick the players is foolish.  Factoring in who might play well together is smart, but that is for the GM to determine based on any feedback they can garner from players, coaches, etc....
    Especially after hearing all the input Carson had on the Eagles the last few years...
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited February 2021
    Poncier said:
    Glorified KC said:
    it's too bad they can't get out from under Frank Clark's contract.
    Interesting.
    Clark to me was the best KC defender on the field Sunday. I know he makes a lot of coin, but if you shed him your defense is going to really suck.
    He was the best on Sunday, but to pay as much as the Chiefs do ($25.8M against the cap, which is the highest cap hit they have) for a guy who has 8 and 6 sack seasons in his two years respectively is not exactly maximizing value.  They can't miss on another investment like him now that Mahomes is no longer going to be paid like a rookie.

    Don't get me wrong, Clark is a good player and very well-rounded defensive end.  He's getting paid like one of the best at getting to the QB and he hasn't been enough of that.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,929
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    I like Russ but agree that letting a player pick the players is foolish.  Factoring in who might play well together is smart, but that is for the GM to determine based on any feedback they can garner from players, coaches, etc....
    Especially after hearing all the input Carson had on the Eagles the last few years...
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  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,546
    Texans released JJ. Lol
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    J.J. Watt is a free agent.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    I'm suuuuuure that will appease Watson and convince him the team is not in a rebuild and he'll rescind his trade demand.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Poncier said:
    I'm suuuuuure that will appease Watson and convince him the team is not in a rebuild and he'll rescind his trade demand.
    They're in full tank mode
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    When the going gets tough, JJ Watt gets a going!
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,871
    New age in the nfl

    if Brady can go elsewhere, so can everyone else
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    CROJAM95 said:
    New age in the nfl

    if Brady can go elsewhere, so can everyone else
    Yeah but at least Brady was a free agent. Watson just signed a gazillion dollar contract and wants out one year later. Russell Wilson is passive-aggressively suggesting he'd be open to leaving Seattle, and Watt is basically a case of the franchise saying "We suck, so go try to win somewhere else." And I wouldn't be surprised if Brady is on the phone with him right now trying to recruit him to Tampa. 
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,871
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    New age in the nfl

    if Brady can go elsewhere, so can everyone else
    Yeah but at least Brady was a free agent. Watson just signed a gazillion dollar contract and wants out one year later. Russell Wilson is passive-aggressively suggesting he'd be open to leaving Seattle, and Watt is basically a case of the franchise saying "We suck, so go try to win somewhere else." And I wouldn't be surprised if Brady is on the phone with him right now trying to recruit him to Tampa. 
    I think teams also realize tough to win with $40m qb cap hit

    get a qb on a rookie deal, Wilson allowed Seattle to have a big window prior to his big deal
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    edited February 2021
    I would love Wilson in Dallas..trade Dak and Sea throws in a first rd pick
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