Root cause - Parents - they need to deal with their kids.
The root cause is that lawsuits have created a "zero tolerance" policy. I remember raising a ton of hell in school. It's not a police state, it's a nanny state.
Root cause - Parents - they need to deal with their kids.
The root cause is that lawsuits have created a "zero tolerance" policy. I remember raising a ton of hell in school. It's not a police state, it's a nanny state.
I don't even know if you have to sue anymore, it is the threat to sue...
I think there needs to be a collective effort to stand up to this non-sense and start making people bring their law suits on. The teachers union should be focusing on this with their massive resources...But that would mean the teachers union would actually have to care about the kids
Without districts that are willing to say, ok, lets go to court...this trend will continue
Schools are simply prisons now anyway...time to think of a new education model
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this article is dangerous in that it paints a broad picture of schools in the U.S.
No it doesn't.
Did you read the article?
The article makes it perfectly clear that they're talking about a number of schools in Texas.
i found that while the article was written about schools in Texas, the title of the story was a little leading. a more accurate description of the story would be that more schools in texas are using police officer. that way, your not painting the whole country with the same brush.
but back to the story, i am not going to say that i am surprised by this but i would like to learn more about the reason for the arrest. i have a feeling that there may be more reason than those in the article
People believe this shit that students in this country are getting arrested for paper planes and crumbs? Maybe on ONE excessive instance,at most.
One excessive instance?
Did you read more than the title and subtitle of this article?
Here, I'll help you out, as maybe the article was too long for you to manage more than a couple of sentences:
'Each day, hundreds of schoolchildren appear before courts in Texas charged with offences such as swearing, misbehaving on the school bus or getting in to a punch-up in the playground. Children have been arrested for possessing cigarettes, wearing "inappropriate" clothes and being late for school.
In 2010, the police gave close to 300,000 "Class C misdemeanour" tickets to children as young as six in Texas for offences in and out of school, which result in fines, community service and even prison time. What was once handled with a telling-off by the teacher or a call to parents can now result in arrest and a record that may cost a young person a place in college or a job years later.'
Yes, I did. Do I need to point out that one ONE occasion a student was arrested for the paper airplanes and on a SEPARATE occasion a student got her arm broke from a cop breaking it due to crumbs in the cafeteria (which happened in a different state altogether)?
When an article's heading generalizes an issue with the country rather than specifying it's happening in one state ("The US schools with their own police"), it's is blatantly written that way to grab the reader's attention so they continue reading the story. I used to work in publishing and they do this for that reason. But it also makes one generalize the issue! Only the sub-heading mentions that it's a state issue.
Why are you so in agreement with this article anyway Byrnzie? Because you want to believe it's true? I mean, that's why people believe what they do... Who's to say that any of these sources are credible? How do you check for credibility? We all know how in-credible FOX news is, regardless of how much Godfather likes to source them as thread topics. This article immediately has me questioning how exagerated it is right from the generalized heading and I wonder about this writer's and pub's credibility because of that. Anyone from Texas, particularly Austin on here to verify this issue with the schools? I just know that my state (New York) this is not happening in.
this article is dangerous in that it paints a broad picture of schools in the U.S.
No it doesn't.
Did you read the article?
The article makes it perfectly clear that they're talking about a number of schools in Texas.
i found that while the article was written about schools in Texas, the title of the story was a little leading. a more accurate description of the story would be that more schools in texas are using police officer. that way, your not painting the whole country with the same brush.
but back to the story, i am not going to say that i am surprised by this but i would like to learn more about the reason for the arrest. i have a feeling that there may be more reason than those in the article
That heading is quite leading and that's dangerous. And yeah, how much info are we really getting on the issue? It's not really an objective piece; it's written to alarm the reader.
When an article's heading generalizes an issue with the country rather than specifying it's happening in one state ("The US schools with their own police")
Why are you so in agreement with this article anyway Byrnzie?
You're doing exactly what you're preaching against: believing what you choose to believe.
'The U.S schools with their own police'. How is that generalizing? The article is about U.S schools with their own police, so how is that title misleading?
Why am I so in agreement with the article? Go ahead and tell me what's not to agree on. What factual errors are there in this article?
Why don't you just admit that you've decided that because this doesn't happen at your school you've decided to dismiss the issue as being untrue?
Are you suggesting that the US attorney general, Eric Holder lied on this issue?
Are you suggesting that Deborah Fowler, deputy director of Texas Appleseed, an Austin legal rights group, and principal author of a 200-page study of the consequences of policing in Texas schools, lied on this issue?
Are you suggesting that 300,000 children or their parents lied about their kids being booked for minor offences in 2010?
When an article's heading generalizes an issue with the country rather than specifying it's happening in one state ("The US schools with their own police")
Why are you so in agreement with this article anyway Byrnzie?
You're doing exactly what you're preaching against: believing what you choose to believe.
'The U.S schools with their own police'. How is that generalizing? The article is about U.S schools with their own police, so how is that title misleading?
Why am I so in agreement with the article? Go ahead and tell me what's not to agree on. What factual errors are there in this article?
Why don't you just admit that you've decided that because this doesn't happen at your school you've decided to dismiss the issue as being untrue?
Are you suggesting that the US attorney general, Eric Holder lied on this issue?
Are you suggesting that Deborah Fowler, deputy director of Texas Appleseed, an Austin legal rights group, and principal author of a 200-page study of the consequences of policing in Texas schools, lied on this issue?
Are you suggesting that 300,000 children or their parents lied about their kids being booked for minor offences in 2010?
It's generalizing the entire country when it's happening in only *1* state. (there are 50 states) Emphasizing Texas would certainly tell readers that it is not a nationwide thing. I know you're just being difficult here.
How would you know if it's factual? You're guessing as much as the rest of us not living in or understanding what's going on in Texas schools. I said that I don't know what happens in Texas and if anyone does, to tell us.
Are you suggesting we believe every single thing ever written down?? Because that's what you're doing: believing it because someone said so. I can bet we're not getting the entire story here. Anything written alarmingly tends to do that sort of thing... leave out other details...
It's generalizing the entire country when it's happening in only *1* state. (there are 50 states) Emphasizing Texas would certainly tell readers that it is not a nationwide thing. I know you're just being difficult here.
It does emphasize Texas.
You say I'm being dificult? This is probably the most petit and pathetic discussion I've ever had on this board.
How would you know if it's factual? You're guessing as much as the rest of us not living in or understanding what's going on in Texas schools. I said that I don't know what happens in Texas and if anyone does, to tell us.
So are you saying the article is untrue? Great, now go ahead and show us how it's untrue.
Are you suggesting we believe every single thing ever written down?? Because that's what you're doing: believing it because someone said so. I can bet we're not getting the entire story here. Anything written alarmingly tends to do that sort of thing... leave out other details...
I posted an article about police patrolling Texas schools. From this you claim that I believe everything that's ever written down?
Have you really got nothing better to do than engage in this pointless pissing match?
It's generalizing the entire country when it's happening in only *1* state. (there are 50 states) Emphasizing Texas would certainly tell readers that it is not a nationwide thing. I know you're just being difficult here.
It does emphasize Texas.
You say I'm being dificult? This is probably the most petit and pathetic discussion I've ever had on this board.
How would you know if it's factual? You're guessing as much as the rest of us not living in or understanding what's going on in Texas schools. I said that I don't know what happens in Texas and if anyone does, to tell us.
So are you saying the article is untrue? Great, now go ahead and show us how it's untrue.
Are you suggesting we believe every single thing ever written down?? Because that's what you're doing: believing it because someone said so. I can bet we're not getting the entire story here. Anything written alarmingly tends to do that sort of thing... leave out other details...
I posted an article about police patrolling Texas schools. From this you claim that I believe everything that's ever written down?
Have you really got nothing better to do than engage in this pointless pissing match?
You're just sour because you're not winning. I find it pathetic that you believe this garbage that blatantly has holes in it.
This story is peppered with half-truths. Yes police in Texas shot 15 year-old because he pointed a pellet gun at them. If anyone has ever owned or seen a pellet gun most of them resemble a real gun or rifle. This is an unfortunate and sad story.
The District in which the school is in has a Police force, this is true and has been around forever. For example, I reside in Miami-Dade County, FL. Its school police department has been around since 1957. This is nothing new. The purpose of the school police department is to investigate gangs and drug use.
As for children being arrested for throwing paper airplanes I find this hard to believe. For starters I am the father of four children, three of which are in school. My oldest one is 13 and he has been in a few fights in school. He wasn’t arrested. I received in door suspension. My second one, who is 9, was just in a fight. He received detention. No police action was taken in neither incident.
I did read that students are being given citations and are being fined if their behavior is becoming intolerable. But I don’t blame the kids, I blame the parents. My sister is a teacher and the children are out of control because the parents are the same way. Maybe giving citations would wake up the parents. My sister has to deal 8 and 9 year old kids with cell phones going off in the middle of class. A good portion of the time is Mom, Dad or Grandma calling.
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I don't even know if you have to sue anymore, it is the threat to sue...
I think there needs to be a collective effort to stand up to this non-sense and start making people bring their law suits on. The teachers union should be focusing on this with their massive resources...But that would mean the teachers union would actually have to care about the kids
Without districts that are willing to say, ok, lets go to court...this trend will continue
Schools are simply prisons now anyway...time to think of a new education model
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
i found that while the article was written about schools in Texas, the title of the story was a little leading. a more accurate description of the story would be that more schools in texas are using police officer. that way, your not painting the whole country with the same brush.
but back to the story, i am not going to say that i am surprised by this but i would like to learn more about the reason for the arrest. i have a feeling that there may be more reason than those in the article
Yes, I did. Do I need to point out that one ONE occasion a student was arrested for the paper airplanes and on a SEPARATE occasion a student got her arm broke from a cop breaking it due to crumbs in the cafeteria (which happened in a different state altogether)?
When an article's heading generalizes an issue with the country rather than specifying it's happening in one state ("The US schools with their own police"), it's is blatantly written that way to grab the reader's attention so they continue reading the story. I used to work in publishing and they do this for that reason. But it also makes one generalize the issue! Only the sub-heading mentions that it's a state issue.
Why are you so in agreement with this article anyway Byrnzie? Because you want to believe it's true? I mean, that's why people believe what they do... Who's to say that any of these sources are credible? How do you check for credibility? We all know how in-credible FOX news is, regardless of how much Godfather likes to source them as thread topics. This article immediately has me questioning how exagerated it is right from the generalized heading and I wonder about this writer's and pub's credibility because of that. Anyone from Texas, particularly Austin on here to verify this issue with the schools? I just know that my state (New York) this is not happening in.
That heading is quite leading and that's dangerous. And yeah, how much info are we really getting on the issue? It's not really an objective piece; it's written to alarm the reader.
You're doing exactly what you're preaching against: believing what you choose to believe.
'The U.S schools with their own police'. How is that generalizing? The article is about U.S schools with their own police, so how is that title misleading?
Why am I so in agreement with the article? Go ahead and tell me what's not to agree on. What factual errors are there in this article?
Why don't you just admit that you've decided that because this doesn't happen at your school you've decided to dismiss the issue as being untrue?
Are you suggesting that the US attorney general, Eric Holder lied on this issue?
Are you suggesting that Deborah Fowler, deputy director of Texas Appleseed, an Austin legal rights group, and principal author of a 200-page study of the consequences of policing in Texas schools, lied on this issue?
Are you suggesting that 300,000 children or their parents lied about their kids being booked for minor offences in 2010?
It's generalizing the entire country when it's happening in only *1* state. (there are 50 states) Emphasizing Texas would certainly tell readers that it is not a nationwide thing. I know you're just being difficult here.
How would you know if it's factual? You're guessing as much as the rest of us not living in or understanding what's going on in Texas schools. I said that I don't know what happens in Texas and if anyone does, to tell us.
Are you suggesting we believe every single thing ever written down?? Because that's what you're doing: believing it because someone said so. I can bet we're not getting the entire story here. Anything written alarmingly tends to do that sort of thing... leave out other details...
It does emphasize Texas.
You say I'm being dificult? This is probably the most petit and pathetic discussion I've ever had on this board.
So are you saying the article is untrue? Great, now go ahead and show us how it's untrue.
I posted an article about police patrolling Texas schools. From this you claim that I believe everything that's ever written down?
Have you really got nothing better to do than engage in this pointless pissing match?
You're just sour because you're not winning. I find it pathetic that you believe this garbage that blatantly has holes in it.
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The article has holes in it? O.k. Tell us what these blatent holes are.
The District in which the school is in has a Police force, this is true and has been around forever. For example, I reside in Miami-Dade County, FL. Its school police department has been around since 1957. This is nothing new. The purpose of the school police department is to investigate gangs and drug use.
As for children being arrested for throwing paper airplanes I find this hard to believe. For starters I am the father of four children, three of which are in school. My oldest one is 13 and he has been in a few fights in school. He wasn’t arrested. I received in door suspension. My second one, who is 9, was just in a fight. He received detention. No police action was taken in neither incident.
I did read that students are being given citations and are being fined if their behavior is becoming intolerable. But I don’t blame the kids, I blame the parents. My sister is a teacher and the children are out of control because the parents are the same way. Maybe giving citations would wake up the parents. My sister has to deal 8 and 9 year old kids with cell phones going off in the middle of class. A good portion of the time is Mom, Dad or Grandma calling.