No Code, the greatest album of the last 20 years

aspoonfulweighsaton

Shorty wrote:

aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:

Definitely my favorite. I wish it got more love from the band in concert but it could be worse (see Binaural, Riot Act ). I'm so glad I got to see them twice in 1996 since it seems that they won't regularly play some of those songs again.

lol - hey, I like Riot Act!

Everything here is opinion - isn't it?

I was commenting on the band's refusal to play songs from those albums in concert, not my opinion of them.

JonnyPistachio

Jason P wrote:

No Code and Yield really benefited from Jack Irons.

When I first got No Code, I gave it a few spins and then it collected dust for almost three years ... it now stands to be one of my favorite records ever.

Agreed.
I was just listening to Present Tense yesterday and just loving the sound that Jack got from his snare and toms.

Cool Face Ryan

JACK

TamaDrummer91

No Code is my favorite PJ album as well, with Yield being an extremely close second. As others have noted, it represents a diversity of musical styles. The album has a good flow to it with every song being absolutely incredible. Jack Irons is due utmost credit for his warm drum tones and incredibly hard to duplicate drumming style. Those who praise Dave Abbruzzese as being the obvious top PJ drummer, I can tell you from a drummer's p.o.v., Jack Irons is far beyond a superior drummer to Dave. It was nice to see basically half of No Code being played at Vancouver this past year. I wish more of it were played regularly. Those who adore No Code, I recommend the Vancouver 2011 boot, the No Code selection is worth it alone.

TamaDrummer91

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Jason P wrote:

No Code and Yield really benefited from Jack Irons.

When I first got No Code, I gave it a few spins and then it collected dust for almost three years ... it now stands to be one of my favorite records ever.

Agreed.
I was just listening to Present Tense yesterday and just loving the sound that Jack got from his snare and toms.

His drum tones on Yield and No Code are fantastic.

marcos

This is the dividing line as to whether you really get this band it seems. Some people left them on this one.

I was actually supposed to play this vinyl New Years Eve or Day, but still waiting. I know it's stupid but I just got into vinyl last month and have been waiting for a special time / occasion to play it........but it's just how special this albumis to me.

Newch91

TamaDrummer91 wrote:

No Code is my favorite PJ album as well, with Yield being an extremely close second. As others have noted, it represents a diversity of musical styles. The album has a good flow to it with every song being absolutely incredible. Jack Irons is due utmost credit for his warm drum tones and incredibly hard to duplicate drumming style. Those who praise Dave Abbruzzese as being the obvious top PJ drummer, I can tell you from a drummer's p.o.v., Jack Irons is far beyond a superior drummer to Dave. It was nice to see basically half of No Code being played at Vancouver this past year. I wish more of it were played regularly. Those who adore No Code, I recommend the Vancouver 2011 boot, the No Code selection is worth it alone.

As a drummer also, I'll also agree with you about Jack being far superior than Dave (which isn't to knock Dave). Trying to play "In My Tree" on drums is tough and I still can't nail it.

frazba

No Code was the first CD I ever bought, period. I resisted the move from vinyl as long as I could, couldn't have picked a better album to make the move with. Still wish I'd bought it on vinyl as well mind!
And, yes, I still have (nearly) all my vinyl collection as well, much to my wifes annoyance.

I think I'll just stick it on now, thanks for the suggestion

TamaDrummer91

Newch91 wrote:

TamaDrummer91 wrote:

No Code is my favorite PJ album as well, with Yield being an extremely close second. As others have noted, it represents a diversity of musical styles. The album has a good flow to it with every song being absolutely incredible. Jack Irons is due utmost credit for his warm drum tones and incredibly hard to duplicate drumming style. Those who praise Dave Abbruzzese as being the obvious top PJ drummer, I can tell you from a drummer's p.o.v., Jack Irons is far beyond a superior drummer to Dave. It was nice to see basically half of No Code being played at Vancouver this past year. I wish more of it were played regularly. Those who adore No Code, I recommend the Vancouver 2011 boot, the No Code selection is worth it alone.

As a drummer also, I'll also agree with you about Jack being far superior than Dave (which isn't to knock Dave). Trying to play "In My Tree" on drums is tough and I still can't nail it.

Nice to see another drummers appreciation for Jack. I'm actually not a fan of Dave's drumming on Vs in particular. I feel he relies too heavily on cymbal work and lacks the dynamics of Matt and Jack. His performance was far more solid and more of a natural feel on Vitalogy, but I wish Jack would have been on those two albums. I suppose his performance on Vs is far from lackluster, but subjectively I just don't care for his style. Not to mention how the band felt about him, Ed in particular.

frazba

It's a wonderful album, no argument (on the 'phones right now) but greatest of the last 20 years? Let me get back to you.

kenny olav

TamaDrummer91 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

TamaDrummer91 wrote:

No Code is my favorite PJ album as well, with Yield being an extremely close second. As others have noted, it represents a diversity of musical styles. The album has a good flow to it with every song being absolutely incredible. Jack Irons is due utmost credit for his warm drum tones and incredibly hard to duplicate drumming style. Those who praise Dave Abbruzzese as being the obvious top PJ drummer, I can tell you from a drummer's p.o.v., Jack Irons is far beyond a superior drummer to Dave. It was nice to see basically half of No Code being played at Vancouver this past year. I wish more of it were played regularly. Those who adore No Code, I recommend the Vancouver 2011 boot, the No Code selection is worth it alone.

As a drummer also, I'll also agree with you about Jack being far superior than Dave (which isn't to knock Dave). Trying to play "In My Tree" on drums is tough and I still can't nail it.

Nice to see another drummers appreciation for Jack. I'm actually not a fan of Dave's drumming on Vs in particular. I feel he relies too heavily on cymbal work and lacks the dynamics of Matt and Jack. His performance was far more solid and more of a natural feel on Vitalogy, but I wish Jack would have been on those two albums. I suppose his performance on Vs is far from lackluster, but subjectively I just don't care for his style. Not to mention how the band felt about him, Ed in particular.

This is a debate Pearl Jam fans might be having 100 years from now. I personally am more of a fan of Jack and Matt than Dave A... but I do think that Dave was the right drummer at the time when they made Vs, especially when you listen to Go on Vs and compare it to any version that Jack or Matt have played. Matt has gotten better at it, but Dave A was insanely fast, and he could be really funky too.

However wrong it may have been the way they fired Dave, I think Pearl Jam needed a new drummer in order to continue... to continue as a band, to continue to grow... I hate to think of what every album since No Code would sound like if Dave A had been drumming on those albums. Actually, I don't think those albums would have ever happened if that were the case.

TamaDrummer91

This is a debate Pearl Jam fans might be having 100 years from now. I personally am more of a fan of Jack and Matt than Dave A... but I do think that Dave was the right drummer at the time when they made Vs, especially when you listen to Go on Vs and compare it to any version that Jack or Matt have played. Matt has gotten better at it, but Dave A was insanely fast, and he could be really funky too.

However wrong it may have been the way they fired Dave, I think Pearl Jam needed a new drummer in order to continue... to continue as a band, to continue to grow... I hate to think of what every album since No Code would sound like if Dave A had been drumming on those albums. Actually, I don't think those albums would have ever happened if that were the case. [/quote]


I do concur that he brings a certain level of intensity that Jack and Matt may lack slightly but they make up for it in their greater level of technicality and style. Dave was a pretty good hard rock/funk drummer,there's little dispute there. Like you, trying to imagine Dave on No Code through the Riot Act years would be difficult. Then again, like you mentioned, this debate will go on and on. Dave may have progressed with the band and matured as they did. With hard rockers, such as Go or Animal, Dave gave the songs a harder edge with more intense funk like elements, but it seems that Jack actually gave them more swing and groove. Matt's style is far more tight and stiff, but still rocks quite hard.

jordan k

I love this album so much. When there are murmurs in the background of my head its this album.

Of The Aggie

No Code better than Ten, Vs., Vitalogy??? No way!

dimitrispearljam

Of The Aggie wrote:

No Code better than Ten, Vs., Binaural??? No way!

Spags

For me its their last truly great album and this year I mean to own it on vinyl, after the ebay drama of 2011 burnt me pretty bad..

Apart from Ten its the studio album that I tend to go back to while I'm generally happier to listen to live versions of the rest of their output (well maybe some of Vitalogy - Immortality in particular - is better on the album).

Thoughts_Arrive

LukinFan wrote:

No Code - it's what got me into PJ

Yep same here, my favourite PJ album I reckon.
I reckon this album sums up PJ.
I cannot wait for the remastered 180g vinyl release!

rival.

Cool Face Ryan wrote:

JACK

this.

rival.

Of The Aggie wrote:

No Code better than Ten, Vs., Vitalogy??? No way!

no code and vs can duke it out, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of ten and vitalogy.

javis el errante

I don't know if NO CODE is the greatest album in the past 20 years, but after a couple of hours break of music, this is the one I am spinning right now... who you are...