No Code is my favorite PJ album as well, with Yield being an extremely close second. As others have noted, it represents a diversity of musical styles. The album has a good flow to it with every song being absolutely incredible. Jack Irons is due utmost credit for his warm drum tones and incredibly hard to duplicate drumming style. Those who praise Dave Abbruzzese as being the obvious top PJ drummer, I can tell you from a drummer's p.o.v., Jack Irons is far beyond a superior drummer to Dave. It was nice to see basically half of No Code being played at Vancouver this past year. I wish more of it were played regularly. Those who adore No Code, I recommend the Vancouver 2011 boot, the No Code selection is worth it alone.
As a drummer also, I'll also agree with you about Jack being far superior than Dave (which isn't to knock Dave). Trying to play "In My Tree" on drums is tough and I still can't nail it.
Nice to see another drummers appreciation for Jack. I'm actually not a fan of Dave's drumming on Vs in particular. I feel he relies too heavily on cymbal work and lacks the dynamics of Matt and Jack. His performance was far more solid and more of a natural feel on Vitalogy, but I wish Jack would have been on those two albums. I suppose his performance on Vs is far from lackluster, but subjectively I just don't care for his style. Not to mention how the band felt about him, Ed in particular.
This is a debate Pearl Jam fans might be having 100 years from now. I personally am more of a fan of Jack and Matt than Dave A... but I do think that Dave was the right drummer at the time when they made Vs, especially when you listen to Go on Vs and compare it to any version that Jack or Matt have played. Matt has gotten better at it, but Dave A was insanely fast, and he could be really funky too.
However wrong it may have been the way they fired Dave, I think Pearl Jam needed a new drummer in order to continue... to continue as a band, to continue to grow... I hate to think of what every album since No Code would sound like if Dave A had been drumming on those albums. Actually, I don't think those albums would have ever happened if that were the case.
This is a debate Pearl Jam fans might be having 100 years from now. I personally am more of a fan of Jack and Matt than Dave A... but I do think that Dave was the right drummer at the time when they made Vs, especially when you listen to Go on Vs and compare it to any version that Jack or Matt have played. Matt has gotten better at it, but Dave A was insanely fast, and he could be really funky too.
However wrong it may have been the way they fired Dave, I think Pearl Jam needed a new drummer in order to continue... to continue as a band, to continue to grow... I hate to think of what every album since No Code would sound like if Dave A had been drumming on those albums. Actually, I don't think those albums would have ever happened if that were the case. [/quote]
I do concur that he brings a certain level of intensity that Jack and Matt may lack slightly but they make up for it in their greater level of technicality and style. Dave was a pretty good hard rock/funk drummer,there's little dispute there. Like you, trying to imagine Dave on No Code through the Riot Act years would be difficult. Then again, like you mentioned, this debate will go on and on. Dave may have progressed with the band and matured as they did. With hard rockers, such as Go or Animal, Dave gave the songs a harder edge with more intense funk like elements, but it seems that Jack actually gave them more swing and groove. Matt's style is far more tight and stiff, but still rocks quite hard.
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For me its their last truly great album and this year I mean to own it on vinyl, after the ebay drama of 2011 burnt me pretty bad..
Apart from Ten its the studio album that I tend to go back to while I'm generally happier to listen to live versions of the rest of their output (well maybe some of Vitalogy - Immortality in particular - is better on the album).
I don't know if NO CODE is the greatest album in the past 20 years, but after a couple of hours break of music, this is the one I am spinning right now... who you are...
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I think as far as an album Goes binaural is the best. Its the most cohesive piece of art. No codes unreal and may have better individual songs but nothing takes me on a ride like binaural. Obvi just an opinion.
It's not even PJ's best album of the last 20 years.
in your opinion
No doubt, I just don't think it stands up as a collective piece as well as Vs, Yield or Binaural. Still pretty great and I like as many songs on No Code as any other PJ(or any other band) album.
There are some albums from Tool, Black Crowes, White Stripes and Them Crooked Vultures that stand firmly above No Code for me.
No Code is my favorite PJ album as well, with Yield being an extremely close second. As others have noted, it represents a diversity of musical styles. The album has a good flow to it with every song being absolutely incredible. Jack Irons is due utmost credit for his warm drum tones and incredibly hard to duplicate drumming style. Those who praise Dave Abbruzzese as being the obvious top PJ drummer, I can tell you from a drummer's p.o.v., Jack Irons is far beyond a superior drummer to Dave. It was nice to see basically half of No Code being played at Vancouver this past year. I wish more of it were played regularly. Those who adore No Code, I recommend the Vancouver 2011 boot, the No Code selection is worth it alone.
As a drummer also, I'll also agree with you about Jack being far superior than Dave (which isn't to knock Dave). Trying to play "In My Tree" on drums is tough and I still can't nail it.
Nice to see another drummers appreciation for Jack. I'm actually not a fan of Dave's drumming on Vs in particular. I feel he relies too heavily on cymbal work and lacks the dynamics of Matt and Jack. His performance was far more solid and more of a natural feel on Vitalogy, but I wish Jack would have been on those two albums. I suppose his performance on Vs is far from lackluster, but subjectively I just don't care for his style. Not to mention how the band felt about him, Ed in particular.
I play bass... I can drum but not that well.
Jack Irons laid sown some solid beats which I appreciate. I like hearing more drum than cymbal.
Dave was all over the place and it kind of drives me nuts.
I think as far as an album Goes binaural is the best. Its the most cohesive piece of art. No codes unreal and may have better individual songs but nothing takes me on a ride like binaural. Obvi just an opinion.
Agreed, No Code has some fantastic songs on it but Binaural flows better at least to my ears.
I just happened to be listening to No Code today, as I was driving around. Although I prefer most of PJ's songs live, I found myself listening to Off He Goes over and over, and decided I actually prefer the studio version to the live one. Does anyone else feel this way?
I just happened to be listening to No Code today, as I was driving around. Although I prefer most of PJ's songs live, I found myself listening to Off He Goes over and over, and decided I actually prefer the studio version to the live one. Does anyone else feel this way?
The studio Off He Goes IS really something. Ed's voice sound absolutely perfect.
I'm like that with most songs, actually. I think alot of the intricacies get lost in a live setting. Obviously alot can be said about the awesomeness of live performance, but in in general, for listening I prefer studio stuff.
I agree it's one of my favorites. Some amazing songs on it. Present Tense, is probably my favorite from No Code. One of the few albums were every song is just mindblowing
You have just inspired me to start listening again, it's been awhile since I've listened to it cover to cover.
Thanks
A week after posting this, I am still listening to it, after sitting on the fence for the last few years, I'm now ready to say this is my fav PJ album !!!! Although it doesn't contain one of my top 5 songs, it's the only album which I can say I love every song on. Fav song is def Off he goes....love it
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The video made me want to put the album on...and to also find a way to get the vinyl.
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I just happened to be listening to No Code today, as I was driving around. Although I prefer most of PJ's songs live, I found myself listening to Off He Goes over and over, and decided I actually prefer the studio version to the live one. Does anyone else feel this way?
The studio Off He Goes IS really something. Ed's voice sound absolutely perfect.
I'm like that with most songs, actually. I think alot of the intricacies get lost in a live setting. Obviously alot can be said about the awesomeness of live performance, but in in general, for listening I prefer studio stuff.
I agree, it's pretty rare that I buy live music from any artist.
It's not even PJ's best album of the last 20 years.
in your opinion
No doubt, I just don't think it stands up as a collective piece as well as Vs, Yield or Binaural. Still pretty great and I like as many songs on No Code as any other PJ(or any other band) album.
I agree with this opinion as well.
My first thought was that it isn't even my favorite PJ album, so I couldn't call it the greatest album of the last 20 years. As one complete album, for me, Vs. reigns supreme.
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This is a debate Pearl Jam fans might be having 100 years from now.
However wrong it may have been the way they fired Dave, I think Pearl Jam needed a new drummer in order to continue... to continue as a band, to continue to grow... I hate to think of what every album since No Code would sound like if Dave A had been drumming on those albums. Actually, I don't think those albums would have ever happened if that were the case.
However wrong it may have been the way they fired Dave, I think Pearl Jam needed a new drummer in order to continue... to continue as a band, to continue to grow... I hate to think of what every album since No Code would sound like if Dave A had been drumming on those albums. Actually, I don't think those albums would have ever happened if that were the case.
I do concur that he brings a certain level of intensity that Jack and Matt may lack slightly but they make up for it in their greater level of technicality and style. Dave was a pretty good hard rock/funk drummer,there's little dispute there. Like you, trying to imagine Dave on No Code through the Riot Act years would be difficult. Then again, like you mentioned, this debate will go on and on. Dave may have progressed with the band and matured as they did. With hard rockers, such as Go or Animal, Dave gave the songs a harder edge with more intense funk like elements, but it seems that Jack actually gave them more swing and groove. Matt's style is far more tight and stiff, but still rocks quite hard.
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Apart from Ten its the studio album that I tend to go back to while I'm generally happier to listen to live versions of the rest of their output (well maybe some of Vitalogy - Immortality in particular - is better on the album).
Yep same here, my favourite PJ album I reckon.
I reckon this album sums up PJ.
I cannot wait for the remastered 180g vinyl release!
this.
no code and vs can duke it out, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of ten and vitalogy.
I wish pearl jam would play more No Code tracks often at concerts..
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The lyrics, the photography, the sound.....
I need more.
Nothing seems to satisfy.
I said, I dont want it.
I just need it.
To breathe, to feel, to know Im alive.
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it's the best PJ art work by far...
No Code bows to Lateralus.
I said it.
I play bass... I can drum but not that well.
Jack Irons laid sown some solid beats which I appreciate. I like hearing more drum than cymbal.
Dave was all over the place and it kind of drives me nuts.
Love Matt Cameron's work too.
Agreed, No Code has some fantastic songs on it but Binaural flows better at least to my ears.
I definitely agree with this!!!
The studio Off He Goes IS really something. Ed's voice sound absolutely perfect.
I'm like that with most songs, actually. I think alot of the intricacies get lost in a live setting. Obviously alot can be said about the awesomeness of live performance, but in in general, for listening I prefer studio stuff.
A week after posting this, I am still listening to it, after sitting on the fence for the last few years, I'm now ready to say this is my fav PJ album !!!! Although it doesn't contain one of my top 5 songs, it's the only album which I can say I love every song on. Fav song is def Off he goes....love it
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The video made me want to put the album on...and to also find a way to get the vinyl.
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I agree, it's pretty rare that I buy live music from any artist.
I agree with this opinion as well.
My first thought was that it isn't even my favorite PJ album, so I couldn't call it the greatest album of the last 20 years. As one complete album, for me, Vs. reigns supreme.