Gary Johnson 2012

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edited December 2011 in A Moving Train
fiscal conservative
socially liberal
anti-war

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he won't waste our money
he won't tell us how to live our lives
he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

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he's like Ron Paul, except less Jesus and less crazy.

VOTE GARY JOHNSON 2012 :D:D:D:D:D
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    i need more info, i've been hurt before.
  • Gary has pretty much been shoved to the way side by now. He needs to toughen up a bit instead of hiding in the corner during the debates. I like him though. Maybe he will go again in 5 years. :)
  • Mikee JMikee J Posts: 1,323
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    Is there really a man in the US who wouldn't do this if he became President? History suggests not.. and if there was, he wouldnt have a chance in the first place.

    My two pennies worth.
    "My body's nobody's body but mine"
  • Gary has pretty much been shoved to the way side by now. He needs to toughen up a bit instead of hiding in the corner during the debates. I like him though. Maybe he will go again in 5 years. :)

    get with the program, John Briggs! Gary switched to Libertarian and is running as an independent candidate. He's the only candidate who deserves the sympathetic, rationalist, anti-war, civil libertarian vote.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Mikee J wrote:
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    Is there really a man in the US who wouldn't do this if he became President? History suggests not.. and if there was, he wouldnt have a chance in the first place.

    My two pennies worth.

    jesus man, that's depressing as hell.

    Yes, he would end wars. I have no doubt about it. He does stand a chance if the public gives him a chance.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... president/

    Presidential hopeful Gary E. Johnson announced Wednesday that he’s bolting the Republican Party in favor of a long-shot Libertarian bid.

    Mr. Johnson, a former two-term governor of New Mexico, blamed the Republican establishment for freezing him out of the presidential debates, despite his “solid record of job creation” and experience leading a border state closely divided between Democrats and Republicans.

    He appeared in only two primary debates, but was excluded from the others, presumably because of his poor performance in the polls.

    “Frankly, I have been deeply disappointed by the treatment I have received in the Republican nomination process,” he said in a statement. “In the final analysis … I am a libertarian — that is, someone who is fiscally very conservative, but holds freedom-based positions on many social issues. I think this election needs a libertarian voice.”

    In 2008, Mr. Johnson endorsed the Republican presidential candidacy of Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who is running again this time around and is leading in polling for next week’s Iowa caucuses. This time, however, Mr. Johnson thinks backing Mr. Paul would be a waste of time.

    “While Ron Paul is a good man and a libertarian who I proudly endorsed for president in 2008, there is no guarantee he will be the Republican nominee,” Mr. Johnson said.

    Mr. Johnson is, in a sense, following in Mr. Paul’s footsteps. The Texas Republican abandoned the party in 1988 to mount an unsuccessful Libertarian presidential bid, and that party still holds him in high esteem.

    Many Republicans fear that a third-party candidate will ruin their party’s chances of defeating President Obama next fall, but the Libertarian Party isn’t buying it.

    “You can make that case only if Ron Paul is the Republican nominee,” Libertarian Party Executive Director Carla Howell said in a statement Wednesday.

    “If any other remaining contender in the GOP primary were to win, then the Republicans will offer a choice for more big government and higher taxes. Should one of the non-Paul candidates prevail, then the Libertarian Party will be our only means to restore fiscal sanity, to create a friendly business environment and to create desperately needed new jobs,” she said.

    Mr. Paul and Mr. Johnson have both long criticized the rest of the Republican field for, in many key policy areas, too closely resembling Democrats. Each has contended that he is treated differently because his message doesn’t fall neatly into the traditional Republican mold.

    “The process was not open and fair,” Mr. Johnson said during a press conference in New Mexico on Wednesday, where he announced his third-party effort.

    Mr. Johnson also took parting shots at other Republican candidates, bemoaning the fact that Jon Huntsman Jr. and Rick Santorum have frequently appeared on the national stage despite having “no national name recognition.” Mr. Johnson also took aim at Rep. Michele Bachmann, who briefly led the pack over the summer, for being embraced by some in the Republican establishment despite her lack of “executive experience.”

    The Libertarian Party’s candidate is expected to appear on all 50 states’ ballots in the November election. Former Rep. Bob Barr, another ex-Republican lawmaker who bolted the GOP, was the party’s 2008 nominee, but garnered less than 1 percent of the vote.

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    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Mikee JMikee J Posts: 1,323
    Mikee J wrote:
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    Is there really a man in the US who wouldn't do this if he became President? History suggests not.. and if there was, he wouldnt have a chance in the first place.

    My two pennies worth.

    jesus man, that's depressing as hell.

    Yes, he would end wars. I have no doubt about it. He does stand a chance if the public gives him a chance.

    Depressing maybe, but power is corrupting. It's very easy to be idealogical when you are in opposition. When you are the head of the US you are (it would appear) almost obliged to go to war, if there is one to be fought and it seems there always will be... . My thoughts are based on the past, maybe this guy is the future. I hope so. ;)
    "My body's nobody's body but mine"
  • Mikee J wrote:
    Depressing maybe, but power is corrupting. It's very easy to be idealogical when you are in opposition. When you are the head of the US you are (it would appear) almost obliged to go to war, if there is one to be fought and it seems there always will be... . My thoughts are based on the past, maybe this guy is the future. I hope so. ;)

    this is why I don't support 90% of the candidates. actually, not only do I not support them, I think they are mostly fascist pigs OR ham-fisted pragmatists... both susceptible to corruption. I support Johnson because I firmly believe he doesn't fit the mold of either and will bring about real change.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    edited December 2011
    fiscal conservative
    socially liberal
    anti-war

    ~~~~~~~~

    he won't waste our money
    he won't tell us how to live our lives
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    ~~~~~~~~

    he's like Ron Paul, except less Jesus and less crazy.

    VOTE GARY JOHNSON 2012 :D:D:D:D:D

    I imagine it probably also doesn't hurt that he wants to legalize marijuana. ;)
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  • _ wrote:
    fiscal conservative
    socially liberal
    anti-war

    ~~~~~~~~

    he won't waste our money
    he won't tell us how to live our lives
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    ~~~~~~~~

    he's like Ron Paul, except less Jesus and less crazy.

    VOTE GARY JOHNSON 2012 :D:D:D:D:D

    I imagine it probably also doesn't that he wants to legalize marijuana. ;)

    Not at all. But that is ancillary to his more important ideas, like stopping murder via NO MORE WAR.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • __ Posts: 6,651
    _ wrote:
    fiscal conservative
    socially liberal
    anti-war

    ~~~~~~~~

    he won't waste our money
    he won't tell us how to live our lives
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    ~~~~~~~~

    he's like Ron Paul, except less Jesus and less crazy.

    VOTE GARY JOHNSON 2012 :D:D:D:D:D

    I imagine it probably also doesn't that he wants to legalize marijuana. ;)

    Not at all. But that is ancillary to his more important ideas, like stopping murder via NO MORE WAR.

    Yeah, I haven't really kept up with him, but my brother-in-law knows him relatively well & says he's a great guy. He supports him like I've never seen him support a political candidate before.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    fiscal conservative
    socially liberal
    anti-war

    ~~~~~~~~

    he won't waste our money
    he won't tell us how to live our lives
    he won't send boys to die in illegitimate wars

    ~~~~~~~~

    he's like Ron Paul, except less Jesus and less crazy.

    VOTE GARY JOHNSON 2012 :D:D:D:D:D

    I like Johnson a lot...wish he would have put up more of a fight to get involved in the debates.

    I wonder though...what ideas does he have that are less crazy than Paul's?

    the word crazy has become synonymous with Paul in just about all the coverage I read and hear about him. I don't get it. Isn't crazy continuing to do the same thing and expect a different result? by that measure he is the sanest of all the candidates
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  • Gary has pretty much been shoved to the way side by now. He needs to toughen up a bit instead of hiding in the corner during the debates. I like him though. Maybe he will go again in 5 years. :)

    get with the program, John Briggs! Gary switched to Libertarian and is running as an independent candidate. He's the only candidate who deserves the sympathetic, rationalist, anti-war, civil libertarian vote.

    Don't tell me to get with the program. I am very aware of Gary and his stances on issues in this Nation. I align myself with the Libertarian party more than any other political party. He is still not outspoken enough and hides in the shadows of his own party and political career. He needs to step out into the light and make more Americans aware of him. Until he gets tougher on his issues he will not gain the momentum he justly deserves.

    Maybe you should not assume that others are not with your program.
  • Don't tell me to get with the program. I am very aware of Gary and his stances on issues in this Nation. I align myself with the Libertarian party more than any other political party. He is still not outspoken enough and hides in the shadows of his own party and political career. He needs to step out into the light and make more Americans aware of him. Until he gets tougher on his issues he will not gain the momentum he justly deserves.

    Maybe you should not assume that others are not with your program.

    woah dude! set aside your ego for a moment. It's all good, no offense was intended. It is just a figure of speech used to accentuate my point that he had gone to the Libertarian party. Peace my brother!

    anyway, how is he not "stepping out into the light?" He doesn't have millions of dollars to spend on the campaign, doesn't have the media's support, and during the debates they didn't invite him even though he had more support than some of the other people there. So, I'd say he's not being seen because those in control don't want him seen, not because he's not serious.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Don't tell me to get with the program. I am very aware of Gary and his stances on issues in this Nation. I align myself with the Libertarian party more than any other political party. He is still not outspoken enough and hides in the shadows of his own party and political career. He needs to step out into the light and make more Americans aware of him. Until he gets tougher on his issues he will not gain the momentum he justly deserves.

    Maybe you should not assume that others are not with your program.

    woah dude! set aside your ego for a moment. It's all good, no offense was intended. It is just a figure of speech used to accentuate my point that he had gone to the Libertarian party. Peace my brother!

    anyway, how is he not "stepping out into the light?" He doesn't have millions of dollars to spend on the campaign, doesn't have the media's support, and during the debates they didn't invite him even though he had more support than some of the other people there. So, I'd say he's not being seen because those in control don't want him seen, not because he's not serious.


    Telling someone to get with the program won't be taken as a joke or compliment by most I hope you know. It's a critical statement. So you can see how I would perceive it as such. No worries. Peace to you to brother.

    As for your take on Gary. My point is made clear in your own statements. He doesn't push back enough and his campaign is not as aggressive as it needs to be. His support is very lack luster in the grand scheme. They won't take him seriously until he truly pushes back.

    They pulled the same crap with Ron Paul and look where he is now. Gary can do it. He just needs to get more aggressive with his campaign and make himself be heard and force the status quo to take him seriously. When you capture the hearts and minds of a fair majority of other party supporters they cannot ignore you.

    I was quite hopeful for Gary when he announced his intentions. I can't meet Ron Paul all the way but Gary I can almost meet all the way. He doesn't have a chance in hell of winning though. I hold his lack of pushing back partially accountable. Hence why I hope that he does a better job during the next election and gets in the game.

    This country could do with some good people like Gary. He just has to step it up a bit more and then he will find the financial support and growth he needs. Ron Paul did just that and look at his momentum this time around.

    I have not lost hope for Gary. Just lost it for this election period. I believe he has 4 years to make it better and get in the process stronger in 2016.
  • I don't know, from his Facebook posts it seems like every day he's up to something in regards to campaigning, meeting people, getting his name out there.

    Anway, here's a recent article about him:

    http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in- ... -and-taxes

    I don't support him on all points, especially eliminating taxes for corporations, but that I think is a rather small consideration in the grand scheme of things. I mean come on, he wants EVERYONE to have the freedom they deserve as a human being? How novel!
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
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