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family shooting during their opening of christmas gifts

chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
edited December 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45789623/ns ... nd_courts/
grapevine, texas.
some folks just are not happy with their life and gotta take everyone with them.
frickin nutcase.
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Insane
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    and dressed as santa claus...

    no words...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I've never understood why people flip out and kill themselves or others over money problems. I used to know the boss of a company who shot himself in the head because of money problems.

    Why not just claim bankruptcy instead?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I've never understood why people flip out and kill themselves or others over money problems. I used to know the boss of a company who shot himself in the head because of money problems.

    Why not just claim bankruptcy instead?
    that depends on who you owe the money to and what drugs you have been doing while you were in the money :lol:
    but this guy ...as gimmi said {"no words"}

    Godfather.
  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    that's really awful. I can't imagine it. Psychotic.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    thanks to joe biden it is nearly impossible to file bankruptcy in this country anymore.

    most of the credit card companies are located in his home state, so they are a powerful lobby. just one of them that owns biden..

    people get so in debt that they can't get out of it. they can't kill themselves because their life insurance will not pay the family the death benefit due to suicide and then the family would be even more fucked if the main breadwinner kills himself. i guess this guy thought it better to take everyone with him than to saddle them with his funeral expenses on top of all of their debt...

    i am not excusing this guy, he is a sick bastard. i was just trying to think like the guy might have been thinking...
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I've never understood why people flip out and kill themselves or others over money problems. I used to know the boss of a company who shot himself in the head because of money problems.

    Why not just claim bankruptcy instead?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • themessengerthemessenger Dallas Posts: 1,320
    chadwick wrote:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45789623/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
    grapevine, texas.
    some folks just are not happy with their life and gotta take everyone with them.
    frickin nutcase.

    I live and work not too far from there and the thing is, that's a very safe area and great place to live. It was the city's first homicide in 2011, and the worst in the city's history. Such a sad story, and the Santa Claus outfit just makes it absolutely sick.
  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    fucked up. not surprising, unfortunately, but fucked up nonetheless.
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    I live near here and this story has dominated the news the last few days.

    My first reaction was that the killer must have been very angry to want to punish his family in such a way, not only killing his immediate family but leaving others to grieve and permanently associate this event with Christmas. Apparently there were not only financial problems but the shooter and his wife had recently separated after many years of marriage. She and their 2 children were living in the apartment while he lived in their former home nearby.

    Grapevine is a fairly affluent suburb and residents of the apartments where this happened have stressed that it was a friendly, crime-free area. Even the police seem shocked that they're dealing with such a horrific crime. I'm not sure there's any way to predict where and when things like this will happen or how to predict who might do something like this. Everyone who knew the family seems to think it was unexpected.

    I don't know what makes people do such a thing. Sad that family situations can become so volatile.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    to me suburbs are the city. dallas ft. worth, or what have you, do not end visually but do end according to zipcode and things like this. so to me, grapevine, texas is the city that it touches or whatever.

    like seattle... seattle has other cities/towns/suburbs that are right there all breathing down one another's neck.
    it isn't bellevue, renton, kirkland, redmond...fuck off...it's fucking seattle folks...

    example... "we don't have crazy killers in bellevue, we have millionaires and snotty lil shits." horse shit... you are seattle and you have killers and hookers and good people and bad people.

    dallas fort worth has more population than all of the state of iowa. concrete and steel and glass. why is it sooo fucking hot? dddrrrrr ppl... sunlight bouncing around and radiant heat being absorbed by steel and roadway and glass and cars.... and killers are not only in dallas...

    do i make sense to anyone or am i the odd duck?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    So sad,take himself out if he feels he must but not everyone else.
    “There should be a place where only the things you want to happen, happen”
  • DissidentmanDissidentman Posts: 15,378
    stargirl69 wrote:
    So sad,take himself out if he feels he must but not everyone else.

    Apparently nowhere is safe.
  • EmBleveEmBleve Posts: 3,019
    I just heard the 911 call on a news channel about this story. It was the guy who did it apparently. omg. It's chilling and so freaking crazy. Those teenagers were his kids! Can you say SNAPPED.
  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    chadwick wrote:
    to me suburbs are the city. dallas ft. worth, or what have you, do not end visually but do end according to zipcode and things like this. so to me, grapevine, texas is the city that it touches or whatever.

    like seattle... seattle has other cities/towns/suburbs that are right there all breathing down one another's neck.
    it isn't bellevue, renton, kirkland, redmond...fuck off...it's fucking seattle folks...

    example... "we don't have crazy killers in bellevue, we have millionaires and snotty lil shits." horse shit... you are seattle and you have killers and hookers and good people and bad people.

    dallas fort worth has more population than all of the state of iowa. concrete and steel and glass. why is it sooo fucking hot? dddrrrrr ppl... sunlight bouncing around and radiant heat being absorbed by steel and roadway and glass and cars.... and killers are not only in dallas...

    do i make sense to anyone or am i the odd duck?
    You make sense to me, other than the part about why it's so hot here. :lol:;) I've lived here 57 years and it's always been hot. This year was just worse than usual.

    I can still remember when Grapevine was just a farming community. Now it's full of expensive houses and pricey tourist attractions. They are particularly proud of their schools. It's one of the wealthiest school districts in the state, mainly because DFW Airport is located in Grapevine. That's a lot of tax dollars rolling in and the community has done a good job of investing in their school system.

    Thanks to urban sprawl, Fort Worth and Dallas are just one ginormous city. But I don't care how affluent a place may be, they're not going to be exempt from crime. It's a delusion to say things like this happen elsewhere. Domestic violence and family disputes happen everywhere.

    I guess there's nothing new about the angry guy who kills his wife/girlfriend and then himself. What truly shocks me about this is how he had to take so many other people with him. His own children, for gods sake. His wife's sister and brother-in-law, his niece.

    There was a public memorial for them last night that drew hundreds of people. Many got up to talk about the family as friends, co-workers, students. Watching it on the news last night, I got the sense that this family was loved by many people. It's incredibly sad.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
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