I didn't read this whole thread, so not sure if this has been mentioned, but I'm currently reading a book called The Strangest Tribe by Stephen Tow. It details the Seattle music scene beginning in the 70's working up to what we all know about the explosion of the 90's. It's a very interesting read and I recommend it to everyone here - there's a lot of quotes from Stone in it. The author talks about how, up until Nirvana exploded, the most well-known bands were Mudhoney, Soundgarden, and Mother Love Bone. No I don't think that they would be anywhere near as well known today if it weren't for Pearl Jam, but they did have quite a large following for such a small music scene at the time. Also interesting was the dichotomy between MLB and Mudhoney after Green River split!
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Just listen to Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns with Andy vs. Ed. Ed makes that song 100 times better. Great songs that needed a better singer which they found.
Uh, what? Now don't get me wrong, Ed sings the song well and I think it's very cool that he pays tribute to MLB by singing it now and then, but Andy has THE voice for that song. Ed can barely reach the high notes, whereas Andy simply owns the song. I can understand if you just prefer Ed's voice, but to say he out sings Andy Wood on that song is ludicrous.
In the movie, right after Cameron Crowe says that everyone in town was talking about Andy there is a quick cut to MLB on stage and a FANTASTIC song is playing. Anyone know what it is?
"This is Shangri-La"
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In the movie, right after Cameron Crowe says that everyone in town was talking about Andy there is a quick cut to MLB on stage and a FANTASTIC song is playing. Anyone know what it is?
Just listen to Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns with Andy vs. Ed. Ed makes that song 100 times better. Great songs that needed a better singer which they found.
Uh, what? Now don't get me wrong, Ed sings the song well and I think it's very cool that he pays tribute to MLB by singing it now and then, but Andy has THE voice for that song. Ed can barely reach the high notes, whereas Andy simply owns the song. I can understand if you just prefer Ed's voice, but to say he out sings Andy Wood on that song is ludicrous.
Yeah... I'll always, always love Ed's voice... but this song belongs to Andy
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I remember there being a transition period after hair bands but before grunge really took off, i thought they sound very much of that time period, kind of like, Fishbone or Infectious Grooves or Faith No More-ish, Hard to say if they would have Made It or what they would have turned into had they made it.
Mother Love Bone was what the Seattle scene needed. A jump start of things to come. Andrew would was an amazing entertainer, and a frontman of a band that led the scene. Without them.... it would be a lot different today. You may not like the music.... but without them, things would be a lot different today. (including this message board!)
I love their music, and still listen to it all the time. It still sounds as good to me as it did when I first listened to it way back when.
Everybody made a movie....
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
But you didn't ask if we'd know them, and in my first response I even acknowledged that it's likely I would not have known of them without Pearl Jam. You asked if people would think they were any good.
the thread title asks if people would like them had they not been the precurser to PJ.
Exactly, and I'm saying that you can't just write off anyone who only knows them because of Pearl Jam as being who only like them because they WERE the precursor to Pearl Jam. I used myself as an example; Had "Apple" been a cd a co-worker handed to me sometime in the mid-90's and said "Hey man, here's this album from this band that broke up after their singer died and was never heard from again, tell me what you think," I can without a doubt say I would have gone home, given it a spin, and thought "fuck...I'm digging this, this is good."
I think there are three types of MLB fans. The first is are those who came by them completely independent of Pearl Jam. The second are people who knew their ties to Pearl Jam when they first came across them, but genuinely like the band for what they did. While you can't guarantee these people would have come across them were it not for Pearl Jam, you can't guarantee that they wouldn't have either. This seems to be the type of fan who's existence you're trying to discount.
I'm not writing anyone off, nor discounting anyone's existence. it's a discussion, cowboy. ease up a little. did you not notice I put myself in category that I'm supposedly discounting? I'm just saying I think a lot more is made of this band than they really deserve in the grand scheme. I'm not insulting the fans, and I'm not trying to insult the band, I'm just stating that I think had they not been the precurser to PJ, they would not hold the musical significance that they do. that's all.
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I think "any good" is a subjective term that is to each his own.
it really irks me when people pick apart a thread title. there's only so much room to put what you are trying to convey as the thread topic. of course I think MLB are "any good". I wouldn't have their albums if I didn't think that.
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They could be seen to have been just another hair band, but then I liked some of the hair bands who paved the way for music today, and certainly had their place back in the 80s. I love the MLB album, and listen to it quite a lot. I dont think they would have lasted as long as PJ, but they certainly would have made a mark.
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Uh, what? Now don't get me wrong, Ed sings the song well and I think it's very cool that he pays tribute to MLB by singing it now and then, but Andy has THE voice for that song. Ed can barely reach the high notes, whereas Andy simply owns the song. I can understand if you just prefer Ed's voice, but to say he out sings Andy Wood on that song is ludicrous.
Um,
NO
"This is Shangri-La"
Thanks! That is the one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9AjYfGMZaA
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Yeah... I'll always, always love Ed's voice... but this song belongs to Andy
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I love their music, and still listen to it all the time. It still sounds as good to me as it did when I first listened to it way back when.
Everybody had a one line.....
Everybody misses Andy....
We'll be seeing him in no time.... Oh Yeah.....
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Um,
NO
I'm not writing anyone off, nor discounting anyone's existence. it's a discussion, cowboy. ease up a little. did you not notice I put myself in category that I'm supposedly discounting? I'm just saying I think a lot more is made of this band than they really deserve in the grand scheme. I'm not insulting the fans, and I'm not trying to insult the band, I'm just stating that I think had they not been the precurser to PJ, they would not hold the musical significance that they do. that's all.
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it really irks me when people pick apart a thread title. there's only so much room to put what you are trying to convey as the thread topic. of course I think MLB are "any good". I wouldn't have their albums if I didn't think that.
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