MT Consensus: Ron Paul

inlet13
inlet13 Posts: 1,979
edited January 2012 in A Moving Train
I'm very happy to be reading both liberal and conservatives coming together to support...

... Ron Paul. Is this the first time there's been an overall consensus on the MT?
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    He is the only real candidate. People can argue all they want about the other puppets running and which ones idealogies fit closer to their own.


    There are bigger issues our country is facing than abortion, tax rates, etc.. Our current government is bought and destroying the future of this country.
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    The bigger question is whether Paul will even get a chance given the media's attempts to silence him completely. I suspect it's going to be Romney vs Obama which means nothing will change.
  • Nevermind90
    Nevermind90 Posts: 722
    I wouldn't give a damn about the election in US if it was n't for Ron Paul. HE made me intersted in politic in US..
    ~ Enjoy The Struggle
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Don't know about consensus, but i am sure glad to see people supporting him as well.

    Who else are you going to support

    Mit Perry?
    Rick Romney?
    Michelle gingrich?
    Newt Santorum?


    It is a true example of why Americans on the right are full of sound and fury that signifies nothing. All the talk about small government and limited government and free markets...and the only candidate that would actually attempt to accomplish those things is Ron Paul and he still only polls at 13%... It should be closer to 50% and yet here we are, a few weeks out from Iowa and New Hampshire picking the candidates the rest of us get to vote for and they are supporting Romney and Newt...jesus christ it upsets me.

    There has certainly been a change in tune on him here because I think people finally see through the debates and other things that he really is reasonable and his Foreign policy is that of non-interventionism...I would love to see debates with Obama and Paul...not because Paul would run away with them or anything, but I think it would be the first time there would be Major differences in candidates in a long time.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i would say there is a reasonable consensus on ron paul

    depending on what the subject is, there have been other topics of consensus and it also depends on which members you are talking to - you will actually get more agreement than disagreement ...
  • 7RayZ
    7RayZ Posts: 488
    :x
    What does Ren Hoek say, "Stooooooooopid."

    Just bend over. All of you. Please do it now. Get it over with.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Don't know about consensus, but i am sure glad to see people supporting him as well.

    Who else are you going to support

    Mit Perry?
    Rick Romney?
    Michelle gingrich?
    Newt Santorum?


    How about Barry O? A lot of people seem to support him too. But, my point was... it seems to me... some here have decided he's not that great and turned to Dr. Paul as an alternative.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    blueandwhite wrote:
    The bigger question is whether Paul will even get a chance given the media's attempts to silence him completely. I suspect it's going to be Romney vs Obama which means nothing will change.

    The one plus of the media's silence is the fact that he really hasn't been attacked by the other candidates. Right now the media seems to be going after Romney and Newt hard. This may benefit Paul.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

    <object height="81" width="100%"> <param name="movie" value="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot;&gt;&lt;/param&gt; <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param> <embed allowscriptaccess="always" height="81" src="https://player.soundcloud.com/player.swf?url=http://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/28998869&quot; type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%"></embed> </object> <span><a href=" - In the Fire (demo)</a> by <a href="
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    im not voting for ron paul. i completely disagree with his domestic policies. if paul got the nomination i would vote for obama and hope to god there was a progressive majority in the senate and the house.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    He's my Vote
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inlet13 wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Don't know about consensus, but i am sure glad to see people supporting him as well.

    Who else are you going to support

    Mit Perry?
    Rick Romney?
    Michelle gingrich?
    Newt Santorum?


    How about Barry O? A lot of people seem to support him too. But, my point was... it seems to me... some here have decided he's not that great and turned to Dr. Paul as an alternative.

    That I hadn't thought about. I was thinking you were referring to the GOP primaries.


    and I would rather call him
    Barack Gingrich
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    im not voting for ron paul. i completely disagree with his domestic policies. if paul got the nomination i would vote for obama and hope to god there was a progressive majority in the senate and the house.

    dude ... obama has shown that he has no interest in taking on the system ... i am not sure if ron paul will (which is what i keep asking his supporters) but obama had his shot ... and he sold out ...
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Ron Paul is not up to the task anymore... imo

    that job beats the most physically and mentally able,
    look at how the Presidents age in a matter of a few years

    might be the truth they find out once in and then the lies they live
    thereafter... I don't know

    lots of stress for sure, what do they say ...
    the most stressful things are those we have no control over.
    The job seems shattering, none have been the men they were.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    im not voting for ron paul. i completely disagree with his domestic policies. if paul got the nomination i would vote for obama and hope to god there was a progressive majority in the senate and the house.
    What about this option?

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    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    polaris_x wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    im not voting for ron paul. i completely disagree with his domestic policies. if paul got the nomination i would vote for obama and hope to god there was a progressive majority in the senate and the house.

    dude ... obama has shown that he has no interest in taking on the system ... i am not sure if ron paul will (which is what i keep asking his supporters) but obama had his shot ... and he sold out ...

    I think Ron Paul had an interest in taking on the system, but that's a sure fire way of the powers that be to eliminate him, including the media (which downplays him and gives him little air time). The same happened to Kucinich; he took on the system and the system then ridiculed him and gave him little air time so as the public knew nothing about him unless the lazy public actually educated themselves without the media's help.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    pandora wrote:
    Ron Paul is not up to the task anymore... imo

    that job beats the most physically and mentally able,
    look at how the Presidents age in a matter of a few years

    might be the truth they find out once in and then the lies they live
    thereafter... I don't know

    lots of stress for sure, what do they say ...
    the most stressful things are those we have no control over.
    The job seems shattering, none have been the men they were.

    Dick Cheney lived for 8 years in the white house with quite possibly the worst ticker on the planet. The whole age thing is a misnomer, particularly if Paul only served 4 years then bowed out. For example, Reagan was 2 years younger than Paul when he was re-elected.

    I understand that age is an issue. But, to base your vote strictly on age is silly IMHO. Platforms are much more important than looks/age/etc.
    Here's a new demo called "in the fire":

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  • bigdvs
    bigdvs Posts: 235
    paul is 76, reagan took office for first term at 70
    "The really important thing is not to live, but to live well. And to live well meant, along with more enjoyable things in life, to live according to your principles."
    — Socrates

  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    bigdvs wrote:
    paul is 76, reagan took office for first term at 70

    Correct. As I said, Reagan was 74 when he was re-elected.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Wow. 76!

    I guess his running mate would be crucial. Although he looks pretty good for 76!
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    I can see why he appeals to many people on this board (read: middle-upper class white people, who truly believe they have earned everything they've gotten), and for good reason since many of you own or run businesses based on the fact that you did work hard at some level. Further I think he's appealing because he wants to bring troops home, etc. However, I am definitely not voting for a (borderline) racist (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/09/07 ... nd-racist/), or someone whose domestic economic policies are so retrograde that it would only exacerbate class inequality in our country.

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